Conflict involving dial-up, IE, other processes

S

Stan Hilliard

My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard
 
N

Nigel Stapley

Stan said:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

--
Regards

Nigel Stapley

www.judgemental.plus.com

<reply-to will bounce>
 
S

Stan Hilliard

Stan said:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds.
Ad-Aware:
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Stan said:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds.
Ad-Aware:
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
first startup after dialup and logging in.

Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].

So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
computer each time.

Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
does?

Stan Hilliard
 
P

PCR

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

Description of the Internet Explorer Repair Tool:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=194177
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which is the
culprit.

Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan.

Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click the Fix button.

Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the
app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds.
Ad-Aware:
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove
the items in RED only.
SpyBot S&D:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download

Install SpywareBlaster:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then click to 'Enable
all protection'.
Update at least weekly.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley

Stan Hilliard wrote:
My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009; Q831167

The following problem has plagued me for a long time.

I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both off-line
and on-line -- except for one situation.

The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my Internet
provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame on the
screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The IE
button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows it not
responding so I delete it.

Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with it.

After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open and
close it repeatedly without problem.

But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then dialup
again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first attempt
to load.

Other Programs that I typically use:

Pegasus Mail
Mailwasher
Agent news-reader
F-Prot anti-virus
ZoneAlarm firewall

Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is more
than just IE. Today it was:

URL Proxy
Rnaapp
MmTask

Advice will be appreciated,
Stan Hilliard

Stan,

Have you tried a repair of IE?

Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.

Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies depending on
whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry beginning
"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's logic?).

Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option and 'OK'.

You will probably need to reboot afterwards.

HTH

I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to temporarily
disable my many TSRs.

On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
and worked OK.

That is with a sample size of 1.

And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm are
running.

Stan Hilliard

I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
first startup after dialup and logging in.

Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].

So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
computer each time.

Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
does?

Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

I can explain ErrorLog.txt.

It is put there by ZoneAlarm firewall. I usually start the firewall
manually just prior to dialing in and logging on to the Internet.

The message must mean that I the Internet is not connected -- which is
true.

But I don't understand the "proxy" part of the message in:
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

Could that mean that I have something configured wrong?

Stan Hilliard

=========
Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an instance of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe to be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard

"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an instance of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe to be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
P

PCR

"Fix IE Log.txt"....... Monday, June 21, 2004 02:51:08 PM
"Reg Save Log.txt"... Tuesday, October 05, 2004 05:06:32 PM

So, I don't see those are related. Mine has a different CRCValueName
value than yours, & it speaks of a different Registry key, with a
gobbledygook name. Also, "Trust Database" & "Trust Provider" are in the
name. Therefore, I must keep it private. Don't get too personal!

Well, I guess you are OK, if "Fix IE Log.txt" says so. BUT, it really
doesn't cure everything, & sometimes an over-install is necessary,-- NOT
that I see you need one, having boot four time w/o an error. Recently,
some folk are not getting an over-install to work, though.

| ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp

I see Glee has answered that.

| Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today

I see you have answered that. It's ZoneAlarm.

| Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
| (res_err_no_connection)

"IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001" is the error descriptor or name. It's
meaning is: "(res_err_no_connection)", i.e., without being connected,
there can be no Input/Output. I think I'm safe in that interpretation.

| MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
| "*.tmp"

Anything could. If they are not in "C:\Windows\Temp", then the folder
that does contain them is a clue to what it was created them. If indeed
they are in "C:\Windows\Temp", then...

Delete the contents of C:\Windows\TEMP. Delete contents only.

Under normal circumstances, C:\WINDOWS\TEMP can be cleared of
files/folders after a fresh boot. You need the fresh boot, because
something may be sitting there, waiting to "complete" an install. You
will likely have seen a message about it, though. Anyway, you should
know whether you've installed something since boot. Now, some files may
return after the delete. "WebPoolFileFile" is one. That will come back
next boot or when you run McAfee.

I have seen one poster who objected, saying one should browse through
those files, looking for .log's. He said it might be interesting to see
whether there is an error message or something inside. It was too late
for me by then.

Naturally, if you have actually installed something into TEMP, there
might be a Registry connection to it. Those, you need to un/re-install
elsewhere. Finally, I even saw a poster who had system files in there,
perhaps it was the Temporary Internet Files in there. That shouldn't be!
Well, to be certain, is C:\Windows\TEMP mentioned in any of these
Registry keys?

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\She
ll Folders
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Use
r Shell Folders

| " ErrorLog.txt"

You said: ZoneAlarm.

| "Reg Save Log.txt"

Seems to be a secret Windows log with secret numbers inside. Your were?

| and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

I believe I am safe in my interpretation, above.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message |
| >Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
| >figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".
|
| I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
| have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
| sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
| factors can possibly occur.
|
| "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.
|
| If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
| if it reports the problems or just fixes them.
|
| Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
| FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
| ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
| Page
| CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e
|
|
| ANOTHER ISSUE:
| In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
| names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
| contains 905 files of the following type:
| (a few examples, all of size=0)
|
| ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
| ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
| ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
| ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
| ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
| ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp
|
| That is only six of the nine hundred five files!
|
| The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
| 10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.
|
| MORE:
| Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
| 10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
| to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
| message:
|
| Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
| (res_err_no_connection)
| Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
| (res_err_no_connection)
|
| MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
| "*.tmp"
| " ErrorLog.txt"
| "Reg Save Log.txt"
| and what do the messages in the log files indicate?
|
| Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
|
| >--
| >Thanks or Good Luck,
| >There may be humor in this post, and,
| >Naturally, you will not sue,
| >should things get worse after this,
| >PCR
| >[email protected]
| >message | >| On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
<[email protected]>
| >| wrote:
| >|
| >| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint
which
| >is the
| >| >culprit.
| >| >
| >| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
| >scan.
| >| >
| >| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and
click
| >the Fix button.
| >| >
| >| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
| >Updates' link in the
| >| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and
remove
| >what it finds.
| >| >Ad-Aware:
| >| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >| >
| >| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
| >and then remove
| >| >the items in RED only.
| >| >SpyBot S&D:
| >| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >| >
| >| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
| >click to 'Enable
| >| >all protection'.
| >| >Update at least weekly.
| >| >--
| >| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >| >
| >| >
| >| >
| >message
| >| >| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >| >>
| >| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
| >Q831167
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
| >off-line
| >| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
| >Internet
| >| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline
frame
| >on the
| >| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent.
The
| >IE
| >| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del]
shows
| >it not
| >| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
| >it.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can
open
| >and
| >| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
| >dialup
| >| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
| >attempt
| >| >> >> to load.
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >| >> >> Mailwasher
| >| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it
is
| >more
| >| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> URL Proxy
| >| >> >> Rnaapp
| >| >> >> MmTask
| >| >> >>
| >| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >| >> >
| >| >> >Stan,
| >| >> >
| >| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >| >> >
| >| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >| >> >
| >| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
| >depending on
| >| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
| >beginning
| >| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
| >logic?).
| >| >> >
| >| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer"
option
| >and 'OK'.
| >| >> >
| >| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >| >> >
| >| >> >HTH
| >| >>
| >| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
| >temporarily
| >| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >| >>
| >| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started
OK
| >| >> and worked OK.
| >| >>
| >| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >| >>
| >| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and
ZoneAlarm
| >are
| >| >> running.
| >| >>
| >| >> Stan Hilliard
| >|
| >| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or
a
| >| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on
its
| >| first startup after dialup and logging in.
| >|
| >| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
| >|
| >| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in
and
| >| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| >| computer each time.
| >|
| >| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair
process
| >| does?
| >|
| >| Stan Hilliard
| >
|
 
G

glee

inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard

"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an instance of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe to be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

What are you using this machine for, Stan? You have MIIS and MS Personal Web Server
installed, judging by inetinfo.exe and MSDTC running.

As I mentioned, inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS) and is used for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it
from the startup tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



glee said:
inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard

"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an
instance
to
be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems




Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

What are you using this machine for, Stan?

It is a stand-alone PC used mainly for:

1) developing software with Visual Basic v6,

2) developing a website locally with MS Frontpage v2000 utilizing MS
Personal Web Server (PWS4),

3) plus general Internet browsing, email, and news reader.
You have MIIS and MS Personal Web Server
installed, judging by inetinfo.exe and MSDTC running.

Which goes with Personal Web Server -- inetinfo.exe or MSDTC?
As I mentioned, inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS) and is used for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it
from the startup tab of msconfig.
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

I disabled inetinfo.exe and could not access my local webs with IE.
Then I dialed-in and logged-on. When I started IE it caused a cascade
of non-responding failures that killed everything. I didn't record
the sequence because that was when my wife phoned to tell me that she
had totaled the car.

I do not understand MSDTC, even though I have tried, so I don't know
if I need it.

I reinstated inetinfo.exe and disabled MSDTC. I can again access my
local webs with IE. When I dialed-in to the Internet and logged-on, IE
could start and work OK. (only 1 trial)

Q - Could MSDTC be the problem?

Q - Does it look like MSDTC serves any purpose on my PC?

Q - Does MSDTC do anything for developing a Frontpage 2000 Web locally
or reading it with IE?

Stan Hilliard
glee said:
inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window 95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard


"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an
instance
of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe
to
be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems




Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

Stan, I don't use PWS or FrontPage (I don't use WYSIWYG html editors, and didn't
install FP when I installed Office), so I can't tell you exactly what MSDTC is used
for. You may need to ask that in Front Page newsgroup, like

msdtc.exe is the Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator. The process is
loaded into the system by Microsoft Personal Web Server and Microsoft SQL Server.
The service is used to manage transactions across multiple servers. Beyond that
description, I dunno.

See if this clears it up or muddles it more, for you:
What is MSDTC and why do I need to care about it?:
http://weblogs.asp.net/florinlazar/archive/2004/03/04/84199.aspx

I suggest testing with it disabled...see if it breaks anything and see if it fixes
any of your issues.

Interesting that disabling inetinfo.exe caused all those problems....apparently it
does more than debug, though that is all I found about it. I certainly never
expected it to total your car! ;-) I hope your wife is OK, BTW.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
What are you using this machine for, Stan?

It is a stand-alone PC used mainly for:

1) developing software with Visual Basic v6,

2) developing a website locally with MS Frontpage v2000 utilizing MS
Personal Web Server (PWS4),

3) plus general Internet browsing, email, and news reader.
You have MIIS and MS Personal Web Server
installed, judging by inetinfo.exe and MSDTC running.

Which goes with Personal Web Server -- inetinfo.exe or MSDTC?
As I mentioned, inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS) and is used for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it
from the startup tab of msconfig.
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

I disabled inetinfo.exe and could not access my local webs with IE.
Then I dialed-in and logged-on. When I started IE it caused a cascade
of non-responding failures that killed everything. I didn't record
the sequence because that was when my wife phoned to tell me that she
had totaled the car.

I do not understand MSDTC, even though I have tried, so I don't know
if I need it.

I reinstated inetinfo.exe and disabled MSDTC. I can again access my
local webs with IE. When I dialed-in to the Internet and logged-on, IE
could start and work OK. (only 1 trial)

Q - Could MSDTC be the problem?

Q - Does it look like MSDTC serves any purpose on my PC?

Q - Does MSDTC do anything for developing a Frontpage 2000 Web locally
or reading it with IE?

Stan Hilliard
glee said:
inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window
95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard


"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within
Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows
directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an instance
of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer
that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices
registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes
Mdm.exe
to
be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe
can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On
the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems




Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
S

Stan Hilliard

Stan, I don't use PWS or FrontPage (I don't use WYSIWYG html editors, and didn't
install FP when I installed Office), so I can't tell you exactly what MSDTC is used
for. You may need to ask that in Front Page newsgroup, like

msdtc.exe is the Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator. The process is
loaded into the system by Microsoft Personal Web Server and Microsoft SQL Server.
The service is used to manage transactions across multiple servers. Beyond that
description, I dunno.

See if this clears it up or muddles it more, for you:
What is MSDTC and why do I need to care about it?:
http://weblogs.asp.net/florinlazar/archive/2004/03/04/84199.aspx

I suggest testing with it disabled...see if it breaks anything and see if it fixes
any of your issues.

Interesting that disabling inetinfo.exe caused all those problems....apparently it
does more than debug, though that is all I found about it. I certainly never
expected it to total your car! ;-) I hope your wife is OK, BTW.

My wife is OK, thanks. So is the person in the other car of the
head-on crash.

Also, thanks to Ralph Nader for forcing the auto companies to install
airbags. They probably saved my wife's life and last year my father's
life. But Nader doesn't get my vote this year -- Kerry does/did.

I am now operating with MSDTC disabled and with inetinfo.exe enabled.
I haven't had any of those freeze-ups of IE since I disabled MSDTC --
six or seven cycles without failure.

Stan Hilliard
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Stan Hilliard said:
What are you using this machine for, Stan?

It is a stand-alone PC used mainly for:

1) developing software with Visual Basic v6,

2) developing a website locally with MS Frontpage v2000 utilizing MS
Personal Web Server (PWS4),

3) plus general Internet browsing, email, and news reader.
You have MIIS and MS Personal Web Server
installed, judging by inetinfo.exe and MSDTC running.

Which goes with Personal Web Server -- inetinfo.exe or MSDTC?
As I mentioned, inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS) and is used for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it
from the startup tab of msconfig.
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems

I disabled inetinfo.exe and could not access my local webs with IE.
Then I dialed-in and logged-on. When I started IE it caused a cascade
of non-responding failures that killed everything. I didn't record
the sequence because that was when my wife phoned to tell me that she
had totaled the car.

I do not understand MSDTC, even though I have tried, so I don't know
if I need it.

I reinstated inetinfo.exe and disabled MSDTC. I can again access my
local webs with IE. When I dialed-in to the Internet and logged-on, IE
could start and work OK. (only 1 trial)

Q - Could MSDTC be the problem?

Q - Does it look like MSDTC serves any purpose on my PC?

Q - Does MSDTC do anything for developing a Frontpage 2000 Web locally
or reading it with IE?

Stan Hilliard
inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft
Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window
95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard


"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within
Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows
directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The effect of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an
instance
of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer
that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices
registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe
to
be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe
can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98, if the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off
this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet Options. On
the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is
selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems




Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 
G

glee

Stan Hilliard said:
My wife is OK, thanks. So is the person in the other car of the
head-on crash.

Also, thanks to Ralph Nader for forcing the auto companies to install
airbags. They probably saved my wife's life and last year my father's
life. But Nader doesn't get my vote this year -- Kerry does/did.

I am now operating with MSDTC disabled and with inetinfo.exe enabled.
I haven't had any of those freeze-ups of IE since I disabled MSDTC --
six or seven cycles without failure.

Stan Hilliard

Interesting....I wonder why. I will have to ask around and see if anyone I know,
knows. Glad to hear the accident did not injure anyone (I also voted early, and in
the same vein as you ;-))
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems


Stan Hilliard said:
What are you using this machine for, Stan?

It is a stand-alone PC used mainly for:

1) developing software with Visual Basic v6,

2) developing a website locally with MS Frontpage v2000 utilizing MS
Personal Web Server (PWS4),

3) plus general Internet browsing, email, and news reader.

You have MIIS and MS Personal Web Server
installed, judging by inetinfo.exe and MSDTC running.

Which goes with Personal Web Server -- inetinfo.exe or MSDTC?

As I mentioned, inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services
(IIS) and is used for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try
disabling
it
from the startup tab of msconfig.
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems


I disabled inetinfo.exe and could not access my local webs with IE.
Then I dialed-in and logged-on. When I started IE it caused a cascade
of non-responding failures that killed everything. I didn't record
the sequence because that was when my wife phoned to tell me that she
had totaled the car.

I do not understand MSDTC, even though I have tried, so I don't know
if I need it.

I reinstated inetinfo.exe and disabled MSDTC. I can again access my
local webs with IE. When I dialed-in to the Internet and logged-on, IE
could start and work OK. (only 1 trial)

Q - Could MSDTC be the problem?

Q - Does it look like MSDTC serves any purpose on my PC?

Q - Does MSDTC do anything for developing a Frontpage 2000 Web locally
or reading it with IE?

Stan Hilliard

inetinfo.exe belongs to Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) and is used
for debugging....it could well be the culprit. Try disabling it from the startup
tab of msconfig.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems



Turn off MDM....MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft
Script
Debugger.

OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with "fff" Appear in Windows Folder:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438
says:

"To work around this issue, remove Mdm.exe to be started as a service on Window
95
and Windows 98 platforms. To do this, remove Mdm.exe from the list under the
following registry key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

I have Win98SE and Office 97.

"Disable script debugging" was already checked in IE6:
[tools][Internet options][advanced]

MDM7 and Mdm.exe do not exist in my:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

A search of the entire registry for Mdm.exe with RegHance did not find
anything.

Four programs are mentioned in ...\RunServices\:
HP Port Resolver
HP Status Server
inetinfo.exe
MSDTC

Below \RunServices\ is \RunServices-\ which contains one program:
SchedulingAgent

(I wouldn't mind getting rid of SchedulingAgent. I do things manually
when possible.)

Mdm.exe does not exist anywhere on the C: drive where windows 98SE is
installed or in the D: drive where most application programs are
installed..

I had a re-occurrence of the freezing of IE on first loading after
dialing up and logging in. It happened when I double-clicked on the
link in Agent news reader to load IE and point to
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410

During the freeze of IE when I [cntl][alt][del], the first time it
showed Pegasus Mail (winpm-32.exe) as not responding. The next time it
was IE. It ended up also taking down Agent.

At the same time, or at reboot, two new of those fff....tmp files were
created in C:\Windows\.

(earlier occurrences of fff....tmp today happened without the
freezing of IE on load.

Could my system contain Mdm.exe by another name?

Stan Hilliard


"After all running instances of Mdm.exe are ended and no longer listed within
Task
Manager, you can delete any of the TMP files from the root of the Windows
directory
without affecting either the Microsoft Script Editor or Mdm.exe. The
effect
of
taking this step is that remote debugging is disabled, provided that an
instance
of
Mdm.exe is not started at the time an error is encountered. However, if another
application reinstalls Mdm.exe, or if Mdm.exe /Regserver is run on a computer
that
is running Window 95 or Windows 98, Mdm.exe is re-added to the RunServices
registry
key "

"NOTE: Running the Detect and Repair feature within Office 2000 causes Mdm.exe
to
be
re-registered on the system."

"Additionally, if the system has Internet Explorer version 5 or later, Mdm.exe
can
still be configured to start at the startup of Window 95 or Windows 98,
if
the
script debugging feature in Internet Explorer is turned on. You can turn off
this
feature within Internet Explorer. On the Tools menu, click Internet
Options.
On
the
Advanced tab under Setting, make sure that Disable script debugging is
selected."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems




Are you saying IE Repair repaired you? Well... go see whether you can
figure the writings inside... "C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt".

I don't know for sure what fixed it -- or if it is fixed. So far I
have had only 4 complete trials over 2 days. That is a very small
sample size, considering that hundreds of different combinations of
factors can possibly occur.

"C:\Windows\Fix IE Log.txt" seems to indicate a successful run.

If Fix IE Log.txt found any errors it did not say so, but I don't know
if it reports the problems or just fixes them.

Another file is "Reg Save Log.txt" dated two minutes after
FixIELog.txt. Its contents is:
ValueName = HKCU,Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,First Home
Page
CRCValueName = 3bdd6b017b35029e


ANOTHER ISSUE:
In searching in "C:\Windows\" for "Fix IE Log.txt" I sorted the file
names alphabetically. I discovered that my "C:\Windows\" directory
contains 905 files of the following type:
(a few examples, all of size=0)

ffe05f89_{D2866B06-FF2F-11D8-A704-E0C858C1C050}.tmp
ffe19351_{C4803D04-95FE-11D8-A704-A08360C10000}.tmp
ffe1d2c9_{0D00F585-91E3-11D8-A704-D04E5AC18484}.tmp
ffe219c3_{BA574044-8E14-11D8-A704-E0805DC10171}.tmp
ffe4deb5_{307E05E6-D4EE-11D8-A704-800D5CC10107}.tmp
ffffe669_{96FCF446-33CA-11D8-A703-60A751C12700}.tmp

That is only six of the nine hundred five files!

The date-modified starts at 12/16/03 11:32AM and ends today 10/20/04
10:06AM, There were two such files at exactly that time.

MORE:
Another file in "C:\Windows\" is ErrorLog.txt. It is dated today
10/20/04 and has two entries for today -- although its entries go back
to Sat Dec 20 14:54:28 CST 2003. All entries have the same error
message:

Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)
Wed Oct 20 09:36:00 CDT 2004 Proxy - IO Proxy Exception: DOT4_001
(res_err_no_connection)

MY QUESTION IS: What processes create those files:
"*.tmp"
" ErrorLog.txt"
"Reg Save Log.txt"
and what do the messages in the log files indicate?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
(e-mail address removed)
message | On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:34:07 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| >Start re-enabling the startup items and see if you can pinpoint which
is the
| >culprit.
| >
| >Also, update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus
scan.
| >
| >Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available here:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip
| >Close all browser windows and open apps, start CWShredder and click
the Fix button.
| >
| >Install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for
Updates' link in the
| >app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove
what it finds.
| >Ad-Aware:
| >http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/
| >
| >Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system,
and then remove
| >the items in RED only.
| >SpyBot S&D:
| >http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download
| >
| >Install SpywareBlaster:
| >http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2859.html
| >Click the link in the app to check for and install updates, then
click to 'Enable
| >all protection'.
| >Update at least weekly.
| >--
| >Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
| >
| >
| >
message
| >| >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:12:06 +0100, Nigel Stapley
| >>
| >> >Stan Hilliard wrote:
| >> >> My System includes Windows 98SE, Stand-alone PC
| >> >> Internet Explorer6.0.2800.1106
| >> >> Update Versions:; SP1;Q832894; Q330994; Q313829; Q837009;
Q831167
| >> >>
| >> >> The following problem has plagued me for a long time.
| >> >>
| >> >> I have IE set to start with a blank page. It starts OK both
off-line
| >> >> and on-line -- except for one situation.
| >> >>
| >> >> The first time that I start IE after dial-up and login to my
Internet
| >> >> provider it (IE) hangs. It gets as far as a vague outline frame
on the
| >> >> screen. The window area inside the frame stays transparent. The
IE
| >> >> button on the toolbar does not function. [cntl][alt][del] shows
it not
| >> >> responding so I delete it.
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes killing IE will also take another program down with
it.
| >> >>
| >> >> After that IE starts OK and operates without problem. I can open
and
| >> >> close it repeatedly without problem.
| >> >>
| >> >> But if I close IE and close the dialup connection and then
dialup
| >> >> again and start IE again, it hangs -- again only on the first
attempt
| >> >> to load.
| >> >>
| >> >> Other Programs that I typically use:
| >> >>
| >> >> Pegasus Mail
| >> >> Mailwasher
| >> >> Agent news-reader
| >> >> F-Prot anti-virus
| >> >> ZoneAlarm firewall
| >> >>
| >> >> Sometimes when I have to kill a "not responding" program, it is
more
| >> >> than just IE. Today it was:
| >> >>
| >> >> URL Proxy
| >> >> Rnaapp
| >> >> MmTask
| >> >>
| >> >> Advice will be appreciated,
| >> >> Stan Hilliard
| >> >
| >> >Stan,
| >> >
| >> >Have you tried a repair of IE?
| >> >
| >> >Start > Settings > Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs.
| >> >
| >> >Highlight "Microsoft Internet Explorer" (the wording varies
depending on
| >> > whether SPs and OE are present). Don't select any entry
beginning
| >> >"Internet Explorer..." : these are just patches (logic? wot's
logic?).
| >> >
| >> >Click 'Add/Remove', select the "Repair Internet Explorer" option
and 'OK'.
| >> >
| >> >You will probably need to reboot afterwards.
| >> >
| >> >HTH
| >>
| >> I did the repair. Before doing it I ran "Clean Startup" to
temporarily
| >> disable my many TSRs.
| >>
| >> On the first trial, after dialing up and logging in, IE6 started OK
| >> and worked OK.
| >>
| >> That is with a sample size of 1.
| >>
| >> And the TSRs are still disabled, except that F-Prot and ZoneAlarm
are
| >> running.
| >>
| >> Stan Hilliard
|
| I restored all of my resident programs at once to see if any one or a
| combination of them has been responsible for the trashing of IE on its
| first startup after dialup and logging in.
|
| Right now I have 19 processes listed in [ctrl][alt][del].
|
| So far, I have made two successful startups of IE after dialing-in and
| logging-on with the resident processes running. I also rebooted the
| computer each time.
|
| Q: Can anyone point me to an explanation of what the IE Repair process
| does?
|
| Stan Hilliard
 

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