Computer Won't Start/Boot.

[Vanz]

Hi, I was just doin' my stuff on the computer when suddenly it restarted but
when it did before reaching/showing the logon screen it restarts and this
went on over and over again. So, I opened up my pc and tried to clear out
some dust then plugged/unplugged the cables. I dont know if I was doin' the
right thing but I was just hoping it would fix my problem. So now, after
doin' the task I turned on the computer again and a new problem came up. It
seems like the fan just keeps spinning loudly but the pc wont boot and just
shows a blank screen. but somehow it boots when I press any key
in the keyboard but after booting I cant seem to use the keyboard and like I
said in the first prob before getting to the logon screen it keeps rebooting
over and over again. Please if anyone has any idea how to fix this please let
me know. Thanks in advance.

BTW, sorry for the long explaination.. xD

 

[db.·.. >]

i don't think the fan
sound is relevant other
than proving it is functional.

what you might try is
to boot with the winxp
cd and access the repair/
recovery console.

then run some commands
at the disk prompt>:

chkdsk
fixboot
bootcfg /rebuild
fixmbr

then exit and
retry to boot w/o
the cd.

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[Leonard Grey]

Possible...but not likely. The fan spins loudly for one of two reasons:

1- The lubrication is drying out. Most OEMs use cheap fans and power
supplies, which can wear out after a few years.

2- The fan is working hard to cool the computer because it is performing
CPU-intensive work. This doesn't seem likely in you case because, as you
describe it, you barely make it to the Welcome Screen.

The fan could be working hard because your computer is full of dust,
which cuts down on the airflow, but you mentioned that you already tried
cleaning out the dust.

When your computer starts to overheat, it shuts itself down to protect
its components and your data.

 

[Vanz]

I think that would be helpful but unfortunately I do not have a CD.. I'll try
asking around from my friends and see if they have one. btw, I was just
wondering, is there still a windows xp cd in stores?

 

[db.·.. >]

i think so, since winxp
is still on the market:

here are some examples:

http://www.calibex.com/Buy-Winxp/zzcalibex2zB1z0--search-html?nxtg=5e880a1c0522-439DCA080E545E1A

however, in buying
a copy of windows,
you would be buying
another license.

so if your computer has
windows on it, then
you should figure out
where its copy came
from.

also might want to look
around on the machine
and see if you find a
sticker with a product
key.
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[Vanz]

Oh, thats a damn expensive software for an old OS.. xD Anyways, thanks for
the advice guys.. I'll get back to you when I need more help. Thx again..

 

[db.·.. >]

you can probably
find it cheaper.

but yes, it would have
been utterly ridiculous
of microsoft to discontinue
the sale of the popular winxp
because it sales are still strong.

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[Patrick Keenan]

Hmm.. I'll probably do that when I'm off from work, but one question
though..
Could this be also caused by the software?

No, because at the pooint where it looks like it's restarting, the system is
barely aware that there *is* any software.

You could confirm this, though if fans are failing it's not a good idea to
poke at it before preventing overheating, by setting the system to boot from
CD and putting in a bootable CD.

If you can't get to the BIOS to change this, well, you already know that the
problem is hardware. You could disconnect the hard disks and the problem
will be similar.



HTH
-pk

 

[Vanz]

Hello again, I managed to borrow a windows XP from a friend but unfortunately
i wont boot up from the CD. The solution for my problem remains unknown. I'm
gonna try plugging/unplugging the cables just in case I messed up something
but If anyone has any better idea or knows the solution to my problem I'd
really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance.

 

[db.·.. >]

ok, it seems your
on the right track.

don't forget to ensure
the bios is set up to
boot from the cd device.

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[Vanz]

Unfortunately, I cannot go through the BIOS. Here;s what happens, By the time
I turn on the PC the monitor seems to be off or just plain black screen and
the fans just keeps spinning really loud and it keeps that way unless I press
any key on the keyboard. Now, when I press a key in the keyboard it starts to
boot up. I tried to go to the BIOS BUT it seems like my keyboard wont work at
all. So, it just continued to boot then after the boot screen just before the
welcome screen it kinda shows a blue screen error real quick like 1 second
then it restarts and it goes on over and over again and that's basically
everything. Please give me some advice guys.. T_T

 

[db.·.. >]

if the bios is not functioning
then neither the disks or
windows can function as well.

even if you unplug your
harddrives and cd devices,
the bios would still present
it self, run its checks and
tell you that your drives are
not found.

therefore, before anything
else can function, the bios
must be functional "first".

so the question you have
to resolve is what affects
the bios?

1) the "cmos", which is powered
by a cmos battery. (it is a little
battery that is installed into a
tiny holder on the motherboard
and about the size of a quarter)

2) the "motherboard"
could be corrupted
or perhaps the powersupply
is faulty

i would try to analyze #1
above as it is easy and
likely the cause for no
functional bios.

those little batteries are
cheap and can be found
were watches are sold.

once you have full access
to your bios, then windows
well have the information
it needs from the bios as
well.

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[Vanz]

Its not that I cant access the BIOS. Its just when my PC starts to boot up
the keyboard gets disabled and cant use F2 to go through BIOS.

 

[Richard in AZ]

What kind of keyboard?
Wireless? USB? PS2?

| Its not that I cant access the BIOS. Its just when my PC starts to boot up
| the keyboard gets disabled and cant use F2 to go through BIOS.
|
| "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
|
| > if the bios is not functioning
| > then neither the disks or
| > windows can function as well.
| >
| > even if you unplug your
| > harddrives and cd devices,
| > the bios would still present
| > it self, run its checks and
| > tell you that your drives are
| > not found.
| >
| > therefore, before anything
| > else can function, the bios
| > must be functional "first".
| >
| > so the question you have
| > to resolve is what affects
| > the bios?
| >
| > 1) the "cmos", which is powered
| > by a cmos battery. (it is a little
| > battery that is installed into a
| > tiny holder on the motherboard
| > and about the size of a quarter)
| >
| > 2) the "motherboard"
| > could be corrupted
| > or perhaps the powersupply
| > is faulty
| >
| > i would try to analyze #1
| > above as it is easy and
| > likely the cause for no
| > functional bios.
| >
| > those little batteries are
| > cheap and can be found
| > were watches are sold.
| >
| > once you have full access
| > to your bios, then windows
| > well have the information
| > it needs from the bios as
| > well.
| >
| > --
| >
| > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
| > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
| > - Systems Analyst
| > - Database Developer
| > - Accountancy
| > - Veteran of the Armed Forces
| >
| > > Unfortunately, I cannot go through the BIOS. Here;s what happens, By the time
| > > I turn on the PC the monitor seems to be off or just plain black screen and
| > > the fans just keeps spinning really loud and it keeps that way unless I press
| > > any key on the keyboard. Now, when I press a key in the keyboard it starts to
| > > boot up. I tried to go to the BIOS BUT it seems like my keyboard wont work at
| > > all. So, it just continued to boot then after the boot screen just before the
| > > welcome screen it kinda shows a blue screen error real quick like 1 second
| > > then it restarts and it goes on over and over again and that's basically
| > > everything. Please give me some advice guys.. T_T
| > >
| > > "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
| > >
| > >> ok, it seems your
| > >> on the right track.
| > >>
| > >> don't forget to ensure
| > >> the bios is set up to
| > >> boot from the cd device.
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >>
| > >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
| > >> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
| > >> - Systems Analyst
| > >> - Database Developer
| > >> - Accountancy
| > >> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
| > >>
| > >> > Hello again, I managed to borrow a windows XP from a friend but unfortunately
| > >> > i wont boot up from the CD. The solution for my problem remains unknown. I'm
| > >> > gonna try plugging/unplugging the cables just in case I messed up something
| > >> > but If anyone has any better idea or knows the solution to my problem I'd
| > >> > really appreciate the help. Thanks in advance.
| > >>
| > >>
| >
| >

 

[db.·.. >]

as richard is eluding
the keyboard is an
issue you now need
to focus on.

find another keyboard,
generic and non usb
and be sure it is connected
into the kb port directly to
the motherboard.

then reboot and try again.

the above should work
to give you access to
the bios.

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