Compatible ink cartridges for Canon PGI-5BK, CLI-8BK, CLI-8C, CLI-8M & CLI-8Y

[measekite]

that is good. canon's chip helps protect the user agaisnt unscruplous
relablers who will not disclose what they are selling. it certainly
slows them down. if people do not like it they should not buy canon
printers.
that is a good thing

If I have to go to all that trouble to install a compatible CLI-8 cart
then I might as well refill. Does anyone know if these new printers
will print with chip less carts?

nope

plus there is no ink being sold that is even a near substitute for the
new canon ink formulations

 

[measekite]

FWIW. I bought a IP4200 expecting compatibles to come along.

Tony is misinformed, the current models will be long replaced before any
new chip
compatibles get chance to hit the market.
After finding this out i immediately sold my IP4200 and replaced it will a
Epson. Not as good build wise and missing
the 2nd input tray but its saving my a fortune on ink.

it really makes sense to give up a better printer so you can buy generic
ink that will clog the new printer so you can spend less on inferior ink.

 

[measekite]

I don't see that anyone has compatible cartridges. I think Tony is
confused, at best.

i agree

 

[Frank]

I have been watching the whole "compatible" cartridge sideshow with
interest when I noticed a few appearing on eBay a couple of weeks back..

In truth, they make the arguement for refilling all the more persuasive
but the way I've opted to go is building empty cartridges into CIS kits
and essentially creating what one person called an "old school hack".

It works very well and aside from the grief in getting the tubing and
various parts sourced I'll soon be in a position to share a "How to.."
guide for anyone else who wants to use their iP4200's for a lot longer.


As to the whole "will it, won't it?" side of things with Canon.. I
expect Tony is right in that it'll be difficult to get replacement chips
and to be honest I think there's a couple of questions that need
answering before I can actually see replacements being of any use.


1. Just what happens if you refill a cartridge, accept the warranty
spiel, print for X weeks and the cartridge then runs out? Does it ignore
the levels and burn out the head or does it stop and tell you?

I ask because I noticed that the system will not let an empty cartridge
continue and only allows it when you refill.


2. Has anyone accepted responsibility for their use of 3rd party ink and
then sent their printer back for an unrelated problem (eg: paper feed)?
and has Canon claimed warranty is not covered?

My guess is that they might try to balk but would provide a replacement
albeit without replacement printhead and carts if pushed.. which begs
the question of why the chips are so unreasonable.


Ultimately I recognise that the people missing out most here are those
who don't like refilling, fiddling with transferring chips, etc.. which
happens to be most people but it does make me wonder just how vital chip
alternatives are.. Course I think I've answered my own question.. :|

1). refilling WILL NOT clog your print head.
2). refilling WILL NOT void your warranty.
3). refilling WILL save you a ton of money.

I know because I do and I have.
Frank

 

[Gary Tait]

1. Just what happens if you refill a cartridge, accept the warranty
spiel, print for X weeks and the cartridge then runs out? Does it ignore
the levels and burn out the head or does it stop and tell you?

I ask because I noticed that the system will not let an empty cartridge
continue and only allows it when you refill.

Likely:

With a full cart and "empty" chip, it will print, but give you the
warranty notice.

With an empty cart and "empty" chip, it woon't print at all.

Meaning that is still reads the prism.

My guess is that they might try to balk but would provide a replacement
albeit without replacement printhead and carts if pushed.. which begs
the question of why the chips are so unreasonable.

Do you mean the Canon chips, or the aftermarket chips (or Canon chip
reprogrammer)? For the latter, it was said they want to create a chip
that is small, and doesn't violate patents.

If the latter can be beaten, until a small chip can be made, a modchip
board could likely be permanently installed in the printer, although
that would raise the bar on using aftermarket ink without fiddling with
chips.

 

[Mike]

is a meaningless word. just an adjective that is totally ambiguous


you open yourself up to

printhead clogs
voiding the printer warranty
wasting a lot of time

Voiding warranty don't talk rubbish. You don't have to use manufacturers
recommend products. It's the same for any product.

 

[measekite]

Voiding warranty don't talk rubbish. You don't have to use manufacturers
recommend products. It's the same for any product.

printer warranty states that if non recommended products do damage to
the printer the warranty is void.

 

[Frank]

Voiding warranty don't talk rubbish. You don't have to use manufacturers
recommend products. It's the same for any product.

The warranty can only be voided if the manufacturer can prove that the
non-oem product caused the damage.
I've yet to see any proof of that happening in the USA.
Basically, it's a scare tactic to get you to use oem products.
Also don't believe anything meashershithead says..he's a known liar and
a spammer for oem's.
Frank

 

[Mike]

printer warranty states that if non recommended products do damage to the
printer the warranty is void.

Yes Of course "if it does damage". If you put water on it you void the
warranty. Use your common sense.
I've yet to hear of any case of ink damaging a canon printer and then canon
then refusing to honour the warranty because it was not their own ink.
Not 1 case out of millions of users.
You live in a different world. All these posts you keep making you
actually sound scared, as though someone has brainwashed you into thinking
all this. You have no personal experience of this problem and subsequent
refusal from canon to honour your warranty

 

[Mike]

The warranty can only be voided if the manufacturer can prove that the
non-oem product caused the damage.
I've yet to see any proof of that happening in the USA.
Basically, it's a scare tactic to get you to use oem products.
Also don't believe anything meashershithead says..he's a known liar and a
spammer for oem's.
Frank

Hes been brainwashed by someone.
He's obviously not all there or just not use to making decisions for
himself.

 

[measekite]

Yes Of course "if it does damage". If you put water on it you void the
warranty. Use your common sense.
I've yet to hear of any case of ink damaging a canon printer and then canon
then refusing to honour the warranty because it was not their own ink.
Not 1 case out of millions of users.

have you spoke to that many users. canon will not honor a warranty
where damage has been caused by a generic product.

You live in a different world. All these posts you keep making you
actually sound scared, as though someone has brainwashed you into thinking
all this. You have no personal experience of this problem and subsequent
refusal from canon to honour

you mean honor right

 

[Frank]

Yes Of course "if it does damage". If you put water on it you void the
warranty. Use your common sense.
I've yet to hear of any case of ink damaging a canon printer and then canon
then refusing to honour the warranty because it was not their own ink.
Not 1 case out of millions of users.
You live in a different world. All these posts you keep making you
actually sound scared, as though someone has brainwashed you into thinking
all this. You have no personal experience of this problem and subsequent
refusal from canon to honour your warranty

Meashershithead is a confirmed know nothing moron of an idiot. He's also
an avid liar. Best to kill file his stuck-on-stupid ass and be done with
him.
Frank

 

[aaron]

Who has these compatible cartridges (CLI-8x) for sale?

I have seen them for sale on ebay in the UK. I typed in 'IP4200' on the
ebay search & found two companies selling compatibles without chips.
One in the UK & one in Germany.

Below is text quoted on one of the adverts:
================================
"These compatible ink cartridges have no chip! You need an original
chip of your (empty) original ink cartridge.
Detailed instructions with pictures for transferring the chip (which is
VERY easy) are incuded in each package."
================================
As far as I am aware to reset the chip, you must hold the resume key
for 5 seconds. However I have heard that this disables ink monitoring.

AH.

 

[Mike]

Yes Of course "if it does damage". If you put water on it you void the

have you spoke to that many users. canon will not honor a warranty where
damage has been caused by a generic product.

## Your argument is ridiculous because it's the same for millions of
products.
People mix products everyday - thus, the warranty on a product damaged by
another is affected

Example, if you buy a Dell PC and add more ram which you purchased from
elsewhere, the module is faulty / damages the motherboard - clearly Dell
won't want to honour the warranty.

You reasoning is that no one with a Dell PC should buy Ram from any other
retailer apart from Dell, and yet millions of people do without any
problems.

You are completely naive, scared and brainwashed.

you mean honor right

## No I mean honour. American's should learn how to spell.

 

[Martin]

I have seen them for sale on ebay in the UK. I typed in 'IP4200' on the
ebay search & found two companies selling compatibles without chips.
One in the UK & one in Germany.

Below is text quoted on one of the adverts:
================================
"These compatible ink cartridges have no chip! You need an original
chip of your (empty) original ink cartridge.
Detailed instructions with pictures for transferring the chip (which is
VERY easy) are incuded in each package."
================================
As far as I am aware to reset the chip, you must hold the resume key
for 5 seconds. However I have heard that this disables ink monitoring.

AH.

Correct.. the ink monitoring is disabled and the printer marks itself as
being "out of warranty" although this is debated I'm pretty sure Canon
won't honour any printhead or ink caused damage if you go this route.

 

[Frank]

## Your argument is ridiculous because it's the same for millions of
products.
People mix products everyday - thus, the warranty on a product damaged by
another is affected

Example, if you buy a Dell PC and add more ram which you purchased from
elsewhere, the module is faulty / damages the motherboard - clearly Dell
won't want to honour the warranty.

You reasoning is that no one with a Dell PC should buy Ram from any other
retailer apart from Dell, and yet millions of people do without any
problems.

You are completely naive, scared and brainwashed.






## No I mean honour. American's should learn how to spell.

Spelling is the least of meashershitheads numerous problems. A brain
that comprehends is at the top of the list.
Frank

 

[measekite]

## Your argument is ridiculous because it's the same for millions of
products.
People mix products everyday - thus, the warranty on a product damaged by
another is affected

Example, if you buy a Dell PC and add more ram which you purchased from
elsewhere, the module is faulty / damages the motherboard - clearly Dell
won't want to honour the warranty.

You reasoning is that no one with a Dell PC should buy Ram from any other
retailer apart from Dell, and yet millions of people do without any
problems.

You are completely naive, scared and brainwashed.






## No I mean honour. American's should learn how to spell.

we can shpeel reel gud

 

[zakezuke]

Correct.. the ink monitoring is disabled and the printer marks itself as

being "out of warranty" although this is debated I'm pretty sure Canon
won't honour any printhead or ink caused damage if you go this route.

Canon issues advanced replacements... i.e. they don't example the
printer when their support people determine the printhead failed.
Unless the printhead it self keeps track of this info which is
possible, but again they issue advanced replacements.

 

[aaron]

There is some doubt whether they ever will be although I know that at least two

manufacturers are still working on it. The issue seems to be the cost of making
an acceptable chip (one that does not breach patents) small enough.
Tony

Hi Tony,

Have you any news updates on the availability of chips ?

I look forward to your reply.

AH

 

[Gary Tait]

Hi Tony,

Have you any news updates on the availability of chips ?

I look forward to your reply.

AH

Canon chips being released would be big. Very big. You will definately see
a thread about it here.