CHKDSK 'Ok to decouple C drive?'

[Graham]

Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
sata xp problems

but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
to 'dismount C drive'

Q what happens if I select -ok- ?

The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
trip ?

tnx - G

 

[John John - MVP]

Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
sata xp problems

but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
to 'dismount C drive'

Q what happens if I select -ok- ?

The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
trip ?

It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
loaded.

John

 

[Graham]

It will run the next time you boot the computer, just before Windows is
loaded.

John

? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
to stop it trying to run at every boot
Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
at boot ... so

I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
the implication of dismounting drive C ??

tnx - G.

 

[John John - MVP]

? John,,, I have some problem with running chkdsk at
boot ,chkdsk runs . says cannot access the volume and then
windows boots ... I had to edit the registery to remove the key
to stop it trying to run at every boot

Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
at the command prompt enter the following:

chkntfs /d

You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
correct.

Im seeing blue- driver-irq-not-less-equ , with isator.sys in the
info box .. so would like to run chkdsk .. but it will -not- run
at boot ... so

I think that you mean: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
RAID enabled.

I can run via chckdsk , via the command prompt ..... what is
the implication of dismounting drive C ??

Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
want to schedule a boot time disk check.

John

 

[Graham]

Instead of manually editing the registry use the CHKNTFS command to
cancel all scheduled chkdsk and return the machine to default behaviour,
at the command prompt enter the following:

chkntfs /d

You should run the command, this will ensure that the registry value is
correct.


I think that you mean:  IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL in iastor.sys...

Go in the BIOS and make sure that the disk controller is not set up as
RAID enabled.


Chkdsk cannot dismount the Windows drive, answer Yes and you will get a
second message telling you that much and you will then be asked if you
want to schedule a boot time disk check.

John

tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
volume ..etc

Checked bios

ICH SATA = AHCI
SATA/IDE = AHCI

Still looks like no way to run chkdsk , as the run on boot fails ,
also cannot boot into safe mode .. loads to the point of
loading hd drivers / sys then stalls

something is wrong with the sata drivers as it seems , cannot
access the volume until 'all' win-xp has loaded ..
assume what ever is missing is not loaded 'before' chkdsk

can run the on-line defrag part of windows tune up .. but thats the
only disk utility that runs .. assume that's because the system
is 'running' at this point

G..

 

[John John - MVP]

tnx on the info .. still not running - cannot find
volume ..etc

Checked bios

ICH SATA = AHCI
SATA/IDE = AHCI

Make and model number of the computer?

Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.


John

 

[Michael]

Trying to run chkdsk , will not run at boot , due to unknown
sata xp problems

but using, run , dos cmd , , chkdsk c: /r will run , but asks
to 'dismount C drive'

Q what happens if I select -ok- ?

The operating system is on C .. what happens if its dismounted ..
will chkdsk -re-mount- after its run .. or is this a one way
trip ?

tnx - G

What brand of computer? I had the same exact problem. Ran Dell Diagnostics
and came up with a toilet-load of errors on the HDD. Dell gave no
resistance and sent me another. Also, that particular laptop was loaded
with malware and other nasties. You may want to run malwarebytes for the
hell of it.

 

[Graham]

What brand of computer?  I had the same exact problem.  Ran Dell Diagnostics
and came up with a toilet-load of errors on the HDD.  Dell gave no
resistance and sent me another.  Also, that particular laptop was loaded
with malware and other nasties.  You may want to run malwarebytes for the
hell of it.

Ok Michel

No pc is home made started life as a P1 -75 meg , well the case
did

Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
running xp-pro ,fully update .

ran trend-house call - malware bytes - spybot s and d - avast free
installed
all show ok

since i 'loaded' or so i thought the sata drivers .. i have not
been able to run safe mode or the disk tools

will the dell diagnostics run on a non dell pc ?

G.

 

[Graham]

Make and model number of the computer?

Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

John

Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
running xp-pro ,fully update .

will try that

G..

 

[Graham]

Make and model number of the computer?

Place the SATA/IDE in IDE (Legacy) mode.

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Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
on re-boot , same as before
.. Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
windows boots

tnx - G..

 

[John John - MVP]

Tried that, set bios , .drive C , clicked on chkdsk, repair , run
on re-boot , same as before
. Error message , ' cannot open volume for direct access' ,, then
windows boots

And when Windows boots you get an error message? What is the *exact*
error message?

Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
enter the following commands, pressing <Enter> after each:


chkntfs /d
chkdsk c: /f

When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes. When informed
that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

John

 

[Graham]

And when Windows boots you get an error message?  What is the *exact*
error message?

Please try to schedule chkdsk from the Command Prompt, at the prompt
enter the following commands, pressing <Enter> after each:

chkntfs /d
chkdsk c: /f

When ask if you want to dismount the volume answer Yes.  When informed
that chkdsk cannot dismount the volume and asked if you want the drive
checked on restart answer Yes then reboot the computer.

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Ok J.

Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
direct to windows 'no' chkdsk

Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
booted , same error
checking file system .. ntfs
cannot open volume for direct access

then .. windows boots normally >
G..

 

[Michael]

Ok Michel

No pc is home made started life as a P1 -75 meg , well the case
did

Its a gigabyte ex58-ud4p , intel P4 quad core , 4 gig ram , 1 x 650
gb and 1 x 500 gb WD sata 2 hard drive's
running xp-pro ,fully update .

ran trend-house call - malware bytes - spybot s and d - avast free
installed
all show ok

since i 'loaded' or so i thought the sata drivers .. i have not
been able to run safe mode or the disk tools

will the dell diagnostics run on a non dell pc ?

G.

To answer your last question, I have no idea. I'd head to WD's site and
download and run their utility to check the HDD.

 

[John John - MVP]

Ok J.

Well running via the command line, the pc re booted and -did
not- attempt to run chkdsk , tried 2 times .. same , re boot ,
direct to windows 'no' chkdsk

Chkdsk via the 'my computer' checked the 2 tick boxes , re
booted , same error
checking file system .. ntfs
cannot open volume for direct access

then .. windows boots normally>

Run chkdsk /p from the Recovery Console.

John

 

[Graham]

Run  chkdsk /p  from the Recovery Console.

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No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing

Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
to the original -wrong ide-
state ??

asks to remove new disk drivers etc

OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000

 

[John John - MVP]

No way ..boot from cd , load intel ich10 , boots then blue
crash ... So cannot actually do anyhthing

Q what drivers would be needed to 'roll back' to revert the pc
to the original -wrong ide-
state ??

asks to remove new disk drivers etc

OX0000007B 0XF8D2524 0XC0000034 0X00000000 OX00000000

It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller. In IDE mode no special
drivers are required. The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.

When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
Mass Storage Drivers. If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
access the disk and run chkdsk.

The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
because the drivers were not properly installed. Were the drivers
installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?

John

 

[Graham]

It sounds to me like your drive is not in IDE mode (in the BIOS), if
they were you wouldn't be getting the 0x7b error, this error tells you
that Windows cannot 'see' the drive controller.  In IDE mode no special
drivers are required.  The SATA RAID/AHCI Mode should be set to
disabled, consult your motherboard manual for more help.

When booting with the CD you will see the message at the bottom of the
screen very early in the booting process asking you to press F6 to load
Mass Storage Drivers.  If the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI Mode you need
to press F6 and provide the controller drivers on a floppy diskette, the
setup program will load them then the Recovery Console will be able to
access the disk and run chkdsk.

The same problem is happening when Windows tries to do the chkdsk at
boot time, it can't find the proper drivers for the controller, this is
because the drivers were not properly installed.  Were the drivers
installed using the F6 method when Windows was installed?

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Thanks John,

yes the F6 was used but the install 'crashed' it looks like i
have now some form of -hybrid- install , with the sata drivers
running - after- the boot sequence has compleated ..

Any attempt to the run the set from the cd now results in a blue-
screen crash
Looks like the only way is to set the m-board back to IDE .. then
I assume xp will
re configure back to IDE ?

Q trying to install 'sata' after windows is installed , looks -
not- to be possible .or at the very least
needs quite a involved set of reg-dits .. etc ???

Tnx - G.

 

[John John - MVP]

Thanks John,

yes the F6 was used but the install 'crashed' it looks like i
have now some form of -hybrid- install , with the sata drivers
running - after- the boot sequence has compleated ..

I think that is your problem with the boot time disk check.

Any attempt to the run the set from the cd now results in a blue-
screen crash

Whenever you boot from the Windows XP cd, be it to install Windows or to
access the Recovery Console as long as the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode you will have to press F6 and supply the controller drivers on a
floppy diskette, the drivers are not on the Windows XP CD so you have to
supply them for the setup program to see the drive.

Looks like the only way is to set the m-board back to IDE .. then
I assume xp will
re configure back to IDE ?

That should work, a lot of folks with these kind of motherboards without
floppy diskette and who don't want to create a CD with the drivers
incorporated opt for this option and forgo the SATA advantages.

Q trying to install 'sata' after windows is installed , looks -
not- to be possible .or at the very least
needs quite a involved set of reg-dits .. etc ???

You can try the information in these search results:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...gabyte+ex58-ud4p&fr=yfp-t-501&fr2=sfp&iscqry=

Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
drivers to the setup program.

John

 

[Graham]

I think that is your problem with the boot time disk check.


Whenever you boot from the Windows XP cd, be it to install Windows or to
access the Recovery Console as long as the drives are in SATA RAID/AHCI
Mode you will have to press F6 and supply the controller drivers on a
floppy diskette, the drivers are not on the Windows XP CD so you have to
supply them for the setup program to see the drive.


That should work, a lot of folks with these kind of motherboards without
floppy diskette and who don't want to create a CD with the drivers
incorporated opt for this option and forgo the SATA advantages.


You can try the information in these search results:http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG72deEXRMPQgABO6l87UF?p=iastor...

Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
drivers to the setup program.

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Thanks John,

Well this is catch-22 , cannot run the rapair function , have
floppy with drivers , have compiled cd sata driverss (intel and
cd with gigabyte) .. all do the same thing , blue screen part
way into boot ..

Or do a repair install and use the F6 method and supply the proper
drivers to the setup program.

If the p/c will revert with the m/b set to ide .. will this
process upgade to sata ?
assume would need to change the bios at the re-boot stage ,
from ide > sata

If so that might be the path ?

tnx - G.

 

[John John - MVP]

Thanks John,

Well this is catch-22 , cannot run the rapair function , have
floppy with drivers , have compiled cd sata driverss (intel and
cd with gigabyte) .. all do the same thing , blue screen part
way into boot ..

Are you pressing the F6 key early enough and are you being asked to
insert the floppy diskette in the drive? I can only surmise that the
drivers are not the right ones or that they are not properly unpacked on
the diskette or that they are not properly slipstreamed on your cd.

If the p/c will revert with the m/b set to ide .. will this
process upgade to sata ?

No, it will set the drive to run in IDE mode, they will run as IDE
drives and Windows should have no problem seeing them properly, Windows
will use standard IDE drivers.

assume would need to change the bios at the re-boot stage ,
from ide> sata

You can change them to IDE and leave them there or you can have them on
IDE and still use the F6 method to install the additional SATA
controller drivers, even if there are no SATA drives Windows can still
install the drivers for them. Then if you later switch the drive back
to SATA the Windows installation will have the drivers preinstalled and
it should be able to boot the drive in SATA mode, if it doesn't you just
change them back to IDE mode.

John