Check disk is a complete joke.

[Lord Turkey Cough]

Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,
no info whatsoever.

If that what I paid £70+ for?

I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.
It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

 

[Lord Turkey Cough]

Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,
no info whatsoever.

If that what I paid £70+ for?

I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.
It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

Actually that's not quite right as the patient is alread ded, he just comes
and murders everybody else in the room.

 

[Lord Turkey Cough]

Been stuck on 'phase two' for about an hour or more,
no info whatsoever.

If that what I paid £70+ for?

I guess you can say that about most of microsofts stuff though.
It's either dead slow or doesn't work at all.

Dr Watson for example, who kills his patients.

Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said
"windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

 

[Lord Turkey Cough]

Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said
"windows was unable to complete the task" - what a load of wank.

you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem
with your hard drive.

troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard
drives, that machine, other machines).

Not that this will help you much here, but
I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /
f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are
left. But it might report them.
I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what
files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and
warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should
change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get
corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently
it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon
So check that.


I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl
panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,
"write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway
"write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May
be useful.
(I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to
your problem)
..

 

[Lord Turkey Cough]

you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem
with your hard drive.

On the other hand I could take that as an indication that
microsoft utilities are "a load of wank".
That is currently my favoured assessment.


Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it
being free.
Emsa Dick Check.
This is what it came up with:-
(it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I don't
think
it will come up with anything else).



==========================================
Initializing, please wait...
Flushing cache start...
Flushing cache end
Pre-Scanning...
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Music\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Pictures\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Videos\
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P
????,????,????,????,????.url
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy service.url

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local
Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local
Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program
Files\±©·çÍøÂçµçÊÓ£¨ÍòÄܰ棩\TVsou\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\????-????.asx
Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\
Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk
files.
Disk check started...
Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\desktop.ini
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Music\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Pictures\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Videos\

=============================================

Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:-

Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is
about
Some tempary files in /temp/ which mo longer appear to exist.
Links with an odd character in eg:-
Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure,
free, anonymous web proxy service.url
which is http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/ and actualy works.
And C:\hiberfil.sys which is some kind of 'special' system file, hibernation
image or whatever.
Also Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\ which seems a
similar case.

So all in all I think the drive is in very good shape, and without any
problems.
I also benchmarked both disks and they both came out very similar apart
from the stress test in which the suposedly faulty disk came significantly
worse.
However that was comparing it to a newer bigger drive, bigger drives
performed
much better than smaller ones and it out performed all dives of a similar
size, bar
one (I bet that was a bit pricey).

It has finished processing now, there were a few more permission denied
warnings
I can't post them cos I had the log file open so it could not update it.

At the end it said 1 error found. I think that might relate to the
system volume information, but then I can't access that either.

So I just need to sort out this weird permission thing on a folder I never
use.
The computer has no user accounts set up, it came with windows
preinstalled and there is only that 'default' hp_owner account set-up
which can access everything, apart apparently from some special system
files. Which I believe is 'normal' anyway.

The only reason I was even testing my drive was because windows
put it into PIO mode for some strange reason, which really slowed things up.
(that's cured now) and because the check disk thing appears to be 'useless',
not
fit for purpose.

So I think the drive is fine and I stand by my somewhat rude, but justified
comments
about the microsoftware :O|


Am I right? I usually am.

 

[jameshanley39]

Well after about over 2 hours it finall got to the end of stage 2 and said
"windows was unable to complete the task"  - what a load of wank.

you could take that as a cause for suspicion of detection of a problem
with your hard drive.

troubleshoot to determine if this is likely the case. (other hard
drives, that machine, other machines).

Not that this will help you much here, but
I would always do chkdsk /r (it implies /f ). If you don't do /r or /
f then it is just reading and not writing anything and errors are
left. But it might report them.
I have had good luck with chkdsk before. Locating precisely what
files were problematic. I copied good ones from another machine - and
warned the users that I suspected a hard drive problem and they should
change their hard drive before more system (or personal) files get
corrupted. (they weren't EXEs corrupted, it didn't seem malicious).

Check the chkdsk log. notice that chkdsk /? mentions a log. Apparently
it is in event viewer..applications..winlogon
So check that.


I am not sure but you may need to set some things on on, ctrl
panel..system.."startup and recovery" settings,
"write an event to the system log" <-- should be checked anyway
"write debugging information" <-- I have set to small memory dump. May
be useful.
(I also uncheck automatic restart, though that is not so relevant to
your problem)
.

 

[Lord Turkey Cough]

On the other hand I could take that as an indication that
microsoft utilities are "a load of wank".
That is currently my favoured assessment.


Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it
being free.
Emsa Dick Check.
This is what it came up with:-
(it has not quite finished running yet, 6/7 of the way through, but I
don't think
it will come up with anything else).



==========================================
Initializing, please wait...
Flushing cache start...
Flushing cache end
Pre-Scanning...
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Music\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Pictures\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Videos\
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\chinatv\???????(StarSports)_P2P
????,????,????,????,????.url
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Favorites\? Secure, free, anonymous web proxy
service.url

Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local
Settings\Temp\b9504acd-dc17-44f6-8201-0b892c1e242e.tmp
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\Local
Settings\Temp\c83af38a-b2e7-4dda-8bc0-b9b24971e1ca.tmp
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Documents and
Settings\HP_Owner\Recent\????????.txt.lnk
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\hiberfil.sys
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\GamesTV-????(??).asx
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\?????.asx
Warning: Can't get attributes: C:\Program
Files\±©·çÍøÂçµçÊÓ£¨ÍòÄܰ棩\TVsou\Synacast\SynaLive\MediaFile\????-????.asx
Error accessing drive: C:\System Volume Information\
Pre-scan complete: 605499 files, 11232 folders, 26746208189 bytes in disk
files.
Disk check started...
Path/File access error C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\desktop.ini
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Music\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Pictures\
Error accessing drive: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My
Videos\

=============================================

Anyway, the 'errors' seem to fall into a few categories:-

Permission problems in "All Users\Documents", I am not sure that that is
about

I 'fixed' this by turning one file sharing for those folders.
There is 'nowt' in em anyway.

 

[Gerald Ross]

Lord Turkey Cough wrote:
snip

Anyway I decided to try a disk checker which actually works, despite it
being free.
Emsa Dick Check.

Sounds like a fun program.

snip