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Question131

Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific font? I am
using CityBlueprint and the library of characters provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

Some fonts do not contain as many characters as others. If you are using
Word's Insert | Symbol dialog and have scrolled through all the character
sets shown, then you have seen all the characters in that font (which ISTR
is an old one with many missing glyphs).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org
 
Q

Question131

Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not there. Is
there updated character map somewhere?

JoAnn Paules said:
Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Question131 said:
Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific font? I am
using CityBlueprint and the library of characters provided is not as large
as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for cityblueprint,
any
ideas?
 
D

Dan Freeman

It's not character map that's missing characters, it's the font. Charmap
only shows you what's "in there".

Dan
Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not
there. Is there updated character map somewhere?

JoAnn Paules said:
Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


Question131 said:
Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific
font? I am using CityBlueprint and the library of characters
provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for
cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
Q

Question131

Yes I know this. What I would like to know is if some one has either created
them (don't have the time) or knows of a place where they could be. I work
for an engineering firm and we are in the process of switching our software
and as a result we where forced to change our standard font and CityBlueprint
was the closest match. The problem is we use several different characters
which are not supported by the font. Therefore I am just asking if anyone
knows anything that could help.

Dan Freeman said:
It's not character map that's missing characters, it's the font. Charmap
only shows you what's "in there".

Dan
Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not
there. Is there updated character map somewhere?

JoAnn Paules said:
Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


message Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific
font? I am using CityBlueprint and the library of characters
provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for
cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
J

JoAnn Paules

If they don't exist, you can't add more symbols to that font. You will have
to find a font that contains the symbols you want. What symbols do you need?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



Question131 said:
Yes I know this. What I would like to know is if some one has either
created
them (don't have the time) or knows of a place where they could be. I work
for an engineering firm and we are in the process of switching our
software
and as a result we where forced to change our standard font and
CityBlueprint
was the closest match. The problem is we use several different characters
which are not supported by the font. Therefore I am just asking if anyone
knows anything that could help.

Dan Freeman said:
It's not character map that's missing characters, it's the font. Charmap
only shows you what's "in there".

Dan
Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not
there. Is there updated character map somewhere?

:

Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


message Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific
font? I am using CityBlueprint and the library of characters
provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for
cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
Q

Question131

To start out I need about 10 different fractions, both greater than, less
than or equal to, a triangle, diameter symbol. There are a few more that I
don't know the names of. Is there a reason why these symbols are not
available?

JoAnn Paules said:
If they don't exist, you can't add more symbols to that font. You will have
to find a font that contains the symbols you want. What symbols do you need?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



Question131 said:
Yes I know this. What I would like to know is if some one has either
created
them (don't have the time) or knows of a place where they could be. I work
for an engineering firm and we are in the process of switching our
software
and as a result we where forced to change our standard font and
CityBlueprint
was the closest match. The problem is we use several different characters
which are not supported by the font. Therefore I am just asking if anyone
knows anything that could help.

Dan Freeman said:
It's not character map that's missing characters, it's the font. Charmap
only shows you what's "in there".

Dan

Question131 wrote:
Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not
there. Is there updated character map somewhere?

:

Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


message Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific
font? I am using CityBlueprint and the library of characters
provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for
cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
M

Mary Sauer

Have you looked at Technical .ttf? It is almost the same as CityBluePrint. I
think it has a complete set of glyphs.

--
Mary Sauer
http://msauer.mvps.org/

Question131 said:
To start out I need about 10 different fractions, both greater than, less
than or equal to, a triangle, diameter symbol. There are a few more that I
don't know the names of. Is there a reason why these symbols are not
available?

JoAnn Paules said:
If they don't exist, you can't add more symbols to that font. You will have
to find a font that contains the symbols you want. What symbols do you need?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"



Question131 said:
Yes I know this. What I would like to know is if some one has either
created
them (don't have the time) or knows of a place where they could be. I work
for an engineering firm and we are in the process of switching our
software
and as a result we where forced to change our standard font and
CityBlueprint
was the closest match. The problem is we use several different characters
which are not supported by the font. Therefore I am just asking if anyone
knows anything that could help.

:

It's not character map that's missing characters, it's the font. Charmap
only shows you what's "in there".

Dan

Question131 wrote:
Yes I looked at the character map and the symbols I need are not
there. Is there updated character map somewhere?

:

Have you looked at Windows Character Map?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
Tech Editor for "Microsoft Publisher 2007 For Dummies"


message Is there a place where you can find new symbols for a specific
font? I am using CityBlueprint and the library of characters
provided is not as large as
say the arial library. I need to find all the symbols for
cityblueprint, any
ideas?
 
C

Character

Question131 said:
To start out I need about 10 different fractions, both greater than, less
than or equal to, a triangle, diameter symbol. There are a few more that I
don't know the names of. Is there a reason why these symbols are not
available?

Yes, there's a very good reason. The particular font you've chosen
simply doesn't have them. It happens to be a poor copy of Tekton,
worth every penny of its cost (free). In fact, looking at it, it's
encoded as a Symbol font rather than a text font, which can lead to
all kinds of problems. By the way - City Blueprint DOES have the
diameter symbol, if you mean the small slashed 'o' known, remarkably,
as 'oslash'.

You probably won't find very many text fonts that have the 10
particular fractions that you need. There are some "fraction fonts"
out there that include a large number of fractions at the expense of
the usual letters and numbers. It's possible that you might find one
that matches or at least coordinates with the architectural style of
Tekton.

The font you probably want to use is Adobe's Tekton Pro. This Open
Type font has the capability of producing arbitrary fractions and
numerous other typographical niceties. Moreover, all of its glyphs are
unicoded and accessible via charmap. However, making USE of things
like creating fractions automatically can't be done in Microsoft Word,
which doesn't support most Open Type features. The symbols are there,
however, and you can put them together yourself. You can set up MS
Word Macros for those that you use often.

- Character
 
C

Character

Mary said:
Have you looked at Technical .ttf? It is almost the same as CityBluePrint. I
think it has a complete set of glyphs.

Technical (originally Corel's licenced version of a Bitstream font) is
a technically far superior font, but it's missing some characters that
are in CityBlueprint, and vice versa. In particular, for some odd
reason, Technical omits the multiply and divide symbols, which are
present in CityBlueprint. In fact, looking closely, the only symbol in
Technical not in CityBlueprint is, for some peculiar reason, the Right
Single Quote!

By the way ...

You mean characters, not glyphs. Glyphs are the shapes/representing
characters. The Letter "A" is a character - it can be represented by
an almost infinite variety of recognizable glyphs.

There is, of course, no such thing as "a complete set of characters",
much less glyphs. It would have to include all possible variations and
languages. Some of today's larger fonts have upwards of 10,000 entries
and they're nowhere near "complete".

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