Can't publish

C

C Tate

I put a question on this board on 7 July but as the issue has not been
resolved I am trying again.

I made a website for a friend some time ago. It is hosted by Lycos. I made
the site in FP2002 but upgraded to FP2003 a few months back. Recently I made
some alternations to the site. Unfortunately, now I can't publish the
changes.

I've been in touch with Lycos. This is what they said:

"We are aware of issues with some aspects of FrontPage.

These are due to the none availability of server extensions for Linux.
Microsoft has stop producing and supporting these after Frontpage 2002.These
extensions we HAVE installed on on our servers.

FrontPage2000 or 2002 will ask you a site location where to publish the
site. Fill this field with your site URL using classical format:
http://frontpage.webcentre.lycos.co.uk/www.yourdomain.com/

Please ensure that any .htaccess files (viewable and removable using webFTP
tool) are removed from both the www and vti_cnf folders before attempting to
upload.

We therefore can no longer confirm or assist with any frontpage extension
issues with later versions due to the above reasons being out of our
control.

Frontpage 2003 will allow you to upload as an FTP client but previous
versions will not. Should the link not function for previous versions you
will require a dedicated FTP client to upload your site.

A free version of which is FILEZILLA, which you can find and download from
any search engine.

For Frontpage 200 or 2002 users you may require to reset your Frontpage
extensions. This is done under Menu option FTP&ACCESS - FRONTPAGE. First
disable the extensions wait 10 minutes and then reenable them. The reset
should then be fully active in around 2-3 hrs and you can then upload via
these versions once again.
With best regards"

Now, I tried their suggestions but it didn't improve matters. I did manage
to publish the site with some ftp software but it doesn't not look 100%
correct to me.

I have also disabled and re-enabled the fp extensions via my control panel
at Lycos. I have used the FP cleaner to do the necessaries too. However, I
still can't publish the site in anyway via FrontPage. This is making me
think either FrontPage or Lycos is useless and I am wondering what to do
next. Please advise, if possible.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

First, Lycos has no idea what they are talking about...

1. There are NO FrontPage 2003 Server Extensions!

2. FP2003 support the same features/functions of FP2000/FP2002 that require the FP2002 Server
Extensions which are the last version currently released by MS.

3. If you have used FTP at anytime to upload content, you have most likely corrupted the extensions
and they will need to be re-installed, then do not use FTP as long as you have the FP extensions
installed on your account, until you understand the impact.

4. Lycos is correct in that Unix/Linux FP2002 version is no longer available, however if they are
installed, then they should still work.


MS doesn't require any web host to remove the extensions, they can continue to run and support them
as long as they want.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================
 
R

Ronx

With that reply from Lycos, I would consider another host. FP2002
extensions are the latest extensions. All their help for FP2000/2002
also applies to FP2003. The root folder of the web site must have an
..htaccess file in it - this is placed there by the extensions, without
it you cannot upload with FrontPage.
http://frontpage.webcentre.lycos.co.uk/www.yourdomain.com/ will be the
correct address to upload to (change yourdomain.com to your actual
domain name).

Lycos statement " We therefore can no longer confirm or assist with any
frontpage extension issues with later versions due to the above reasons
being out of our control." is a cop out, since All versions of FrontPage
will work happily with FP2002 extensions. It is true the extensions for
Unix servers are no longer supported by Microsoft, but this applies to
ALL versions of FrontPage. All versions of FrontPage will allow upload
by FTP, not just FP2003 (though third party FTP clients like FileZilla
or CuteFTP may be better than the FrontPage FTP engine).
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
 
C

C Tate

Thanks for the clarification BUT I still can't publish my site! Do they have
to remove and reinstall these blasted extensions? Or can I do it?
 
C

C Tate

Thanks. My root folder doesn't have an .htaccess. How do I put one there?
Maybe this is the problem?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

You need to check your control panel for that option, if no option, then you have to contact Lycos.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================
 
C

C Tate

Incidentally, does this rule about not using ftp also apply to ftp via
frontpage itself? Why does it allow it if it does something adverse?
 
R

Ronx

The extensions place the file there when you install them. This
..htaccess file points to where your login userid and password are
stored, and also prohibits browsing of _vti_* folders. If it does not
exist - you cannot use the extensions for editing the live site or
publishing - unless Lycos use a completely non-standard way of setting
up the extensions, which may be a good reason for leaving Lycos.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
 
C

C Tate

OK. Where can I find a new host in the UK (or perhaps it doesn't matter
where it is?). Is there a list of hosts somewhere I can consult with
charges?
 

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