Can MS listen to customers?

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I know I was in Cronulla at the time and had to drive back to Maroubra where
I lived. There where more police around than Stalinist Russia ever had.

- Winux P

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Yes we are civilised. Last week I had to get people to drive me home so I
wouldn't get bashed in race riots. Hang on, that doesn't sound too good.
 
David

How was the constitutional crisis in Australia in 1975 resolved? Was it by
calling an election or by some other means?


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Gerry

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Never - she'd (Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia and Her other Realms and
Dominions - guess that means places like England and Scotland) be an ex
queen the day after.

But Her representative, the Governor General, and her other representatives,
the Governors, have sacked Governments which leads to a constitutional
crisis. Last time was 1975 (see the mini series The Dismissal) federally and
in the 40s at the state level (or states are constitutional monarchies too).

If we had voted to be a republic we would have an Australian Republic but
the states would still have the Queen as the state's Head of State.

Until recently the British PM was the Queen's chief advisor on Australia.
Now it's the Australian PM. I don't know who would be her chief advisor on
matters affecting states. The states draw their sovereignty from the Crown.
When she became Queen of Australia (in the 70s, she was just the queen
before that), Queensland made her Queen of Queensland too.
 
:
: : > Gerry Cornell wrote:
: >>
: >
: > Yes, they ended up living through the Cuban Missile Crisis. Had Kennedy
: > not gone through the debacle of the Bay of Pigs, I doubt the later
missile
: > crisis would have ended without a nuclear exchange.
: >
:
: You've moved off topic. We were discussing admitting to mistakes.

Yes but denial holds power, and too much doubt for a certain conviction or
accusation of any kind.

:
: >
: > Don't know what Kennedy would have done with Vietnam. He & LBJ had
: > different ways of doing things.
:
: JFK was seen in very positive terms in the UK and we were all shocked
: by his death.

Initially too in Australia, then we saw a multi-part documentary series from
an American Professor A. Noam Chomsky. In has book Rethinking Chamelot, most
people (who saw the series) thought Kennedy was just as bad as the others.
Still shocked that a President got assinated as that sh!t is real heavy.
Some argue Castro done it.
:
: >
: >>
: >> Were Iraq's weapons dumps secured the day after their armed forces had
: >> surrendered? I think not! Thousands have died needlessly as a
: >> consequence. I do not think it was the result of lack of numbers on
: >> the ground.
: >
: > Really? LOL!
:
: In the aftermath of a defeat a lot can be achieved by small numbers
: properly co-ordinated. The window of opportunity was missed because
: there was no master plan, other than to find Saddam, his henchmen and
: some illusory weapons of mass destruction.

Shock and Awe was an initial master plan that wasn't fully implemented, it
suggested alot more troops be deployed after the big shock. It was stated
here on a radio station, Israel (Government) estimated it would take 30, 000
casualites in order to property secure Iraq. This was before the invasion.
But then again it's only an estimate. Maybe they knew alot more factors then
we did being right in the region. We followed a predident that seemed to be
hell bent on the invasion, now we think it wasn't he's doing. We've all been
Neo-Conned, beaten round the Bush, Dumbsfelded, Wolfobulshidzed, Condesended
Riced, and had our Chainy pulled (Dick Head Cheney that is).
:
: When you capture a body of enemy troops you do not leave their surrendered
: weapons before them to be picked up and used against you when your back
: is turned.
:
: >
: >> It would have
: >> only taken a few engineers to destroy them. Were the engineers told
: >> what needed to be done? No doubt other mistakes were made but the
: >> one I mention must be one of the most crass
: >
: > There wouldn't have been enough engineers to do the job before much of
it
: > was stolen. And engineers would be ground troops too.
:
: After a week or so yes. Decisive action needed to be taken by airborne
: sappers acting whilst chaos reigned.
:
: Whether or not we agree in terms of the precise nature of mistakes made
: in Iraq after Sadam's downfall no political administration can admit to
a
: mistake of this sort. Having said that many in the UK were surprised to
see
: both Bush and Blair re-elected. Perhaps the ineffectiveness of the leaders
: of the political opposition played it's part.

We were suprised that happened from this part of the world too. Especially
the re-election of Blair. I guess illusions a necessay.

:
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: Gerry
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: Enquire, plan and execute.
: Stourport, England
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- Winux P
 
Crikey Randwick too? Far out, guess we're going to see an ousted state
government sooner than week think.

- Winux P

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
I didn't want to walk along Alison or Avoca sts from the bus stop at 10pm
 
Ken

During the period 1939 / 45 all road signs in the UK were removed.

The Australians, in a similar frame of mind, invented their style of
maps to ensure us pommy bastards, when visiting their country, lost
our way. I think they had some idea that if they got us lost in the
outback they would keep more of their Castlemaine 4X for themselves.
They failed, however, to anticipate that a person temporarily lost in
the outback has a nearly unquenchable thirst.

Their latest anti-pomme counter measure have been to set up
factories in the UK making oodles upon oodles of Castlemaine 4X
and Foster to try to dissuade us from going to their beloved country.
Unfortunately those devising these wicked and cunning plans forget
to tell certain state governments, who have recently embarked on a
new campaign to lure more of us pommy bastards to work in their
country.

I do believe Shane Warne may be a conspirator. At the Oval ( and on
earlier battlefields ) last summer you could see something in his wry
smile warning you that needed to watch out. You have be very careful
with a Kangaroo as they carry a hefty punch, especially if you take an
interest in their golden nectar.


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Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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Winux P said:
:
: You've moved off topic. We were discussing admitting to mistakes.

Yes but denial holds power, and too much doubt for a certain conviction or
accusation of any kind.
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It may buy time to enable memories to lose their focus and other more
favourable
events to occur, which is why politicians in power do not admit their
mistakes.
However, eventually the electorate have their say.
:
: >
: > Don't know what Kennedy would have done with Vietnam. He & LBJ had
: > different ways of doing things.
:
: JFK was seen in very positive terms in the UK and we were all shocked
: by his death.

Initially too in Australia, then we saw a multi-part documentary series
from
an American Professor A. Noam Chomsky. In has book Rethinking Chamelot,
most
people (who saw the series) thought Kennedy was just as bad as the others.
Still shocked that a President got assinated as that sh!t is real heavy.
Some argue Castro done it.
Click to expand...

History may judge JFK less kindly than the perception we had of him at the
time.
:
: >
:
: In the aftermath of a defeat a lot can be achieved by small numbers
: properly co-ordinated. The window of opportunity was missed because
: there was no master plan, other than to find Saddam, his henchmen and
: some illusory weapons of mass destruction.

Shock and Awe was an initial master plan that wasn't fully implemented, it
suggested alot more troops be deployed after the big shock. It was stated
here on a radio station, Israel (Government) estimated it would take 30,
000
casualites in order to property secure Iraq. This was before the invasion.
But then again it's only an estimate. Maybe they knew alot more factors
then
we did being right in the region. We followed a predident that seemed to
be
hell bent on the invasion, now we think it wasn't he's doing. We've all
been
Neo-Conned, beaten round the Bush, Dumbsfelded, Wolfobulshidzed,
Condesended
Riced, and had our Chainy pulled (Dick Head Cheney that is).
Click to expand...

There are comparisons which can be drawn between LBJ and Vietnam and
GWB and Iraq.
:
: Whether or not we agree in terms of the precise nature of mistakes made
: in Iraq after Sadam's downfall no political administration can admit
to
a
: mistake of this sort. Having said that many in the UK were surprised to
see
: both Bush and Blair re-elected. Perhaps the ineffectiveness of the
leaders
: of the political opposition played it's part.

We were suprised that happened from this part of the world too. Especially
the re-election of Blair. I guess illusions a necessay.
Click to expand...

Blair got in on a minority vote ( the smallest ever ) and a divided
opposition.
GWB and the UK government ( with or without Blair ) have still to resolve
the
Iraq problem and it's impact on both economies. If either seek re-election
before it is done and dusted governments of a different colour will replace
them.


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~~~~

Gerry

~~~~~~~~
Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Iemma might save the govt. Glad to see the end of Carr. I think we need a lib state govt for a while rather than a labor govt that does nothing (except build roads)
 
David

No doubt with your keen interest in Politics you will have read this:
http://www.whitlamdismissal.com/documents/kerr-statement.shtml


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~~~~

Gerry

~~~~~~~~
Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
Calling of elections were part of the crisis. There's articles in the paper
today about it as Govt papers are to be released under the thirty year rule.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/...e-just-wont-die/2005/12/20/1135032017560.html
 
David said:
I don't use virus protection and I don't get infected.
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Good for you. More likely is that you're completely owned and you just
don't know it.
Explain what is so great about Unix that a Unix company, Microsoft (Unix developer, Unix based IT, & even developed Dos/Win on Unix machines and if you are using Unix on Intel - written by MS), abandoned Unix and converted to using Windows NT.
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I'd try to answer, but your question doesn't make sense. If you're
saying MS sold a version of the Unix OS, yeah, I think I remember them
selling Xenix or some such. And, yes, I think the original version of
BASIC they sold was targeted at Unix. But, so what? Lots of companies
turned away from one OS or another based on the non-technical decisions
of some middle management type. That's always been a problem for IT and
a boon to M$. CIO's that really aren't familiar with technology are
worse than lawyers. They'll do and say anything and then expect the
people in their departments to make their hairbrained ideas work.
Dilbert is reality with a funny tie.

Later,

Andy C.(never #)
 
Winux said:
Some say that Unix\Linux is old technology, good, but old. Whatever they
mean by that is for them to know (I don't undersatnd what they mean by it).
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google "Unix history time-line", etc. In PC terms, Unix is ancient, but
that has more to do with the planned obsolescence of the Wintel
hardware/software model. Something that's good should be able to last.
I have programs I wrote in 1988 that are still used on a daily basis. I
have programs running on windows that had to be rewritten 3 times in 18
months, because M$ kept changing the dll's I was trying to use. Can you
see which is better?
Never seen a virus bombed Unix\Linux box but I've seen one that been hacked
by an intruder. Andy C.(never #) is exactly that, not or never sharp. What
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My sig has to do with the programming language C#. It means that I will
retire, rather than use a programming language that was developed out
of spite. Oh, by the way, you're a dolt. Again, google "dolt idiot
unsophisticated". You'll figure it out.
The larger the company the lower quality customer service you get Andy C.
(never #), not all. Why believe in a world where such things don't happen to
the point where it's upset you so much.

- Winux P
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I gave up on M$ customer service years ago. Reformat the hard drive and
reinstall is about all they ever offer and they want to charge you $200
an hour for that. Get real. Based on the other stuff you wrote, I'd say
you were a lot more upset than I am. I haven't paid for a copy of
windows since 95. I use XP on two machines out of 7. One is for playing
games and the other is for Outlook, which management forces us to use.
About the only time windows intrudes on my little world is when my wife
or one of my kids asks me to fix their computers. Then I get upset.

Later and have a safe and happy hollidays. Merry Christmas.

Andy C.(never #)
 
Bob said:
Nope, just putting your rant into perspective. And you certainly have no
idea about that which to claim to know, and may I add the inability to
even vaguely hope to comprehend. So as you wander off into your little
self-delusion populated world I bid you bon voyage!
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Hmmm, that sounds like a challenge. Did I tell you that one of my sons
is an auto mechanic? Nothing wrong with that. I'm very proud of him.
Also, how's the weather up there? I hear the scenery in Alberta is
awsome.

Welcome to my world. Ehh?

Later,

Andy C.(never #)
 
Mike said:
Andy

"Oh, right. You use IE. There's no point in using virus protection.
You're going to get infected sooner or later, no matter what you do."

I have used IE since it was born, and have never had a virus infection..
many others could say this too, some of whom I have known and do know
personally..
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When I was in management before I forgot how to keep my mouth shut and
had to interview people, I would sometimes ask people, "Which would you
rather be, lucky or good?" If they said "good", I knew they were a
bull-shitter and I wouldn't hire them. If they said "lucky", I knew
they were a realist. You, my friend, are real damn lucky, whether you
know it or not.

Later,

Andy C.(never #)
 
David said:
You are such an idiot.
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How old are you? Wait, I don't want to know.

No more later. End of discussion.

Bye-dee-bye.

Andy C.(never #) - old enough to be your grandfather and feeling every
minute of it
 
Alberta is in Manitoba. Bob I isn't.

Hmmm, that sounds like a challenge. Did I tell you that one of my sons
is an auto mechanic? Nothing wrong with that. I'm very proud of him.
Also, how's the weather up there? I hear the scenery in Alberta is
awsome.

Welcome to my world. Ehh?

Later,

Andy C.(never #)
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Andy

You really are a"twit".

David is well able to fight his own battles if he needs to.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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