Buying XP Professional

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Guest

I bought a OEM of XP Pro. If I load it on my handbuilt computer, will I have
any problems later on if I change the proccesor or the motherboard and do a
fresh install? I would hope I can.
 
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Shenan Stanley

LiveMusicNut said:
I bought a OEM of XP Pro. If I load it on my handbuilt computer,
will I have any problems later on if I change the proccesor or the
motherboard and do a fresh install? I would hope I can.

Technical issues? Unlikely.
 
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Guest

I am worried that once I install and register to microsoft I will not be able
to redue the installation again if the hardware is changed. It won't get
"branded" on the first install? Rick
 
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myPC

As far as I know, you sometimes need to reinstall WIndows if you replace the
monitor and, it is recommended that you reinstall Windows if you replace the
motherboard.

Replacing the processor, you will not have to reactivate Windows. However,
if you replace the motherboard, you will need to reactivate Windows....and,
you'll need to tell Microsoft that the old motherboard died to get
reactivated....but you didn't hear that from me. ;o)
 
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Ghost In the Machine

I am worried that once I install and register to microsoft I will not be able
to redue the installation again if the hardware is changed. It won't get
"branded" on the first install? Rick

Windows generates a mathematical hash based on the various hardware
components installed in your machine. That hash is sent along with
your product code when you activate, and is stored at Microsoft. If
you make a substantial change in hardware over time or all at once at
a future date, windows will prompt you to reactivate. It may activate
just fine over the internet, or at worst, you may have to activate by
phone. It only takes a few minutes, so don't worry about it.

You can upgrade whatever you need to, as long as it's on the original
computer. Read your EULA.

Enjoy the day.

GITM
 
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GHalleck

LiveMusicNut said:
I bought a OEM of XP Pro. If I load it on my handbuilt computer, will I have
any problems later on if I change the proccesor or the motherboard and do a
fresh install? I would hope I can.


You are the system builder. You can repair and modify your
system, provided that it does not develop into a totally
different computer. If you should deem that changing the
CPU and/or motherboard is a repair, then so be it...that is
your privilege as a builder and guarantor of the system that
had been built. As for activation, there might be a hiccup
now and then but telephone activation is always possible.
 
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Alias

myPC said:
As far as I know, you sometimes need to reinstall WIndows if you replace the
monitor and, it is recommended that you reinstall Windows if you replace the
motherboard.

Replacing the processor, you will not have to reactivate Windows. However,
if you replace the motherboard, you will need to reactivate Windows....and,
you'll need to tell Microsoft that the old motherboard died to get
reactivated....but you didn't hear that from me. ;o)

False. I just replaced a faulty motherboard and did not reinstall XP or
have to activate. The motherboard is the same make as the old one,
although a newer version. I also replaced the video card.

On another machine, I upgraded the motherboard, changed the video card,
changed the NIC and audio card and it activated on line and passed all
the WGA tests.

Both machines are running a generic OEM XP, the former an English Pro
and the latter a Spanish Home.

Alias
 
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antioch

Alias said:
False. I just replaced a faulty motherboard and did not reinstall XP or
have to activate. The motherboard is the same make as the old one,
although a newer version. I also replaced the video card.

On another machine, I upgraded the motherboard, changed the video card,
changed the NIC and audio card and it activated on line and passed all the
WGA tests.

Both machines are running a generic OEM XP, the former an English Pro and
the latter a Spanish Home.

Alias

The usual responder is quiet on this one???????????????
 
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Leythos

I bought a OEM of XP Pro. If I load it on my handbuilt computer, will I have
any problems later on if I change the proccesor or the motherboard and do a
fresh install? I would hope I can.

You asked two questions, one technical about hardware, one about
licensing:

OEM XP Professional is just like Retail, it installs on the same
hardware, it will do a repair/reinstall, etc... Changing the motherboard
and processor would be the same as retail - you might have to do a
repair/reinstall, but it would work.

Licensing - well, that's open to how you read the definitions of the OEM
licensing and what country you live in. In general, you should contact
the vendor your purchase the OEM software from and ask them what the
licensing restrictions are.
 
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Alias

Leythos said:
You asked two questions, one technical about hardware, one about
licensing:

OEM XP Professional is just like Retail, it installs on the same
hardware, it will do a repair/reinstall, etc... Changing the motherboard
and processor would be the same as retail - you might have to do a
repair/reinstall, but it would work.

Licensing - well, that's open to how you read the definitions of the OEM
licensing and what country you live in. In general, you should contact
the vendor your purchase the OEM software from and ask them what the
licensing restrictions are.

Or read the EULA that says nothing whatsoever about motherboards and you
know it.

Alias
 
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Leythos

aka@ said:
Or read the EULA that says nothing whatsoever about motherboards and you
know it.

You didn't READ what I wrote - and the OEM software that you purchase
may not be under the same restrictions that the OP may be under.

Face it, the EULA is not the only factor involved here.

The person that bought OEM software in not just an END-User, it also
appears they are now an OEM, as you can't just purchase OEM software
alone in the USA, according to the MS website for OEM's.
 
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Alias

Leythos said:
You didn't READ what I wrote - and the OEM software that you purchase
may not be under the same restrictions that the OP may be under.

Face it, the EULA is not the only factor involved here.

The person that bought OEM software in not just an END-User, it also
appears they are now an OEM, as you can't just purchase OEM software
alone in the USA, according to the MS website for OEM's.

Really? I guess you better tell that to Walmart:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1957319

and Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102062

Oops.

Alias
 
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antioch

Alias said:


And I don't think things regarding WIN XP is any clearer in the UK from what
I can see.
On some sites there is a clear message about the supply and to whom. Just a
quick flick through what I call page 1 & 2 google browsing showing main UK
suppliers/retailers/wholesalers.
Some have plenty of info - some very little and some nothing at all - you go
right to the purchase and get nothing about licences etc
I hope the below is OK - I have prob dropped one hell of a Bxxxxck - but who
cares??????
Note the last one which mentions EMEA - Spain is in Europe last time I
checked?????
Some Examples
After the pack is opened, the enclosed individual software license(s) must
be distributed with a fully assembled computer system and must be
preinstalled. The individual software license(s) inside the pack can no
longer be distributed with a non-peripheral computer hardware component.
With the new 1-pack, the unopened package can be distributed to another
system builder by itself, without any hardware requirement.
Please Note: OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and
server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended for
distribution to end users unless the end users are acting as system builders
by assembling their own PCs.


Please note that where software is labelled as OEM it is offered for sale
with component hardware only.
OEM software is for system builders only and does not come with support or
Retail features.

Windows XP Professional OEM version - may only be purchased with suitable
hardware, such as processor board or system. There is a higher cost when
installed onto a system.

Please note that where software is labelled as OEM it is offered for sale
with component hardware only.
OEM software is for system builders only and does not come with support or
Retail features.

Windows XP Pro OEM Edition

Available for sale in in the EMEA region which is Europe, Africa,
Middle East and the Mediterranean only as defined here.

Note that the Microsoft OEM license requires you to purchase what they
describe as a "non-peripheral device" at the same time. This can be any
motherboard or drive or memory component or case. You do not need to
purchase a complete system, just one NPD will be sufficient.

Please note Microsoft will not provide free support for OEM software

Microsoft OEM software is the FULL edition of the non-OEM software
package.



For more information, please visit this products webpage.
 
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Leythos

aka@ said:
Really? I guess you better tell that to Walmart:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=1957319

Maybe you should read before you make another fool of yourself. Taken
directly from the link you posted:

# This OEM version is intended for system builders only and cannot be
transferred to another PC once it is installed.
# The purchaser of this software is required to comply with the terms of
the System Builder license , including the responsibility of providing
all end user support for the software.

And taken directly from the link you provided again:

"Purchasers of this software are required to comply with the terms of
the System Builder License, including responsibility for providing all
end-user support."

So, you have to comply with the SBL if you purchase it from EITHER
location.
 
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Alias

Leythos said:
Maybe you should read before you make another fool of yourself. Taken
directly from the link you posted:

# This OEM version is intended for system builders only and cannot be
transferred to another PC once it is installed.
# The purchaser of this software is required to comply with the terms of
the System Builder license , including the responsibility of providing
all end user support for the software.

You're changing the subject.
And taken directly from the link you provided again:

"Purchasers of this software are required to comply with the terms of
the System Builder License, including responsibility for providing all
end-user support."

So, you have to comply with the SBL if you purchase it from EITHER
location.

Yawn, but it is available to *anyone* willing to pony up the cash (my
point; yours was they could not be bought at all! You wrote, and I
quote: "The person that bought OEM software in not just an END-User, it
also appears they are now an OEM, as you can't just purchase OEM
software alone in the USA, according to the MS website for OEM's.").
Pull the other one, Leythos, it has bells on it. All generic OEMs can
only be installed on one computer. I never disputed that. Why would you
consider that news? They *don't* say you have to be a systems builder to
buy it.

Alias
 
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Leythos

aka@ said:
You're changing the subject.


Yawn, but it is available to *anyone* willing to pony up the cash (my
point; yours was they could not be bought at all! You wrote, and I
quote: "The person that bought OEM software in not just an END-User, it
also appears they are now an OEM, as you can't just purchase OEM
software alone in the USA, according to the MS website for OEM's.").
Pull the other one, Leythos, it has bells on it. All generic OEMs can
only be installed on one computer. I never disputed that. Why would you
consider that news? They *don't* say you have to be a systems builder to
buy it.

Fact of the matter is that users "purchasing" "OEM" software directly
don't have to agree to the EULA because MS states that only Systems
Builders can purchase it. A system builder can install Windows on a
computer and then sell it, but "a Systems Builder can not sell a end-
user" an uninstalled copy of XP (a OEM copy and only be sold with a
computer and installed on that computer) - according to the links you
posted and the Systems Builder site.

Since the links you provided clearly state that the purchaser is bound
by the Systems Builder agreement, then the users is declaring they are a
systems builder if they purchase it.
 

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