Blue Screen at FBA

[Pascal Bouchard]

I presently use a 1Gb Sandisk Compact Flash; my system has 256Mb RAM; i'm
able to manually copy my XPE image onto this CF; on first boot (FBA),
depending on the image size, blue screen appears; my image tends to be
around 248Mb; if i remove some components (per example, .NET Framework), no
blue screen happens; instead of removing .NET framework, if i remove a
driver component, no blue screen ...

I use EWF with a RAM Overlay not enabled at first boot.

In the FBALOG file, nothing relevant.

Is there a relation between image size, Ram Overlay and Ram ?

Or is there a configuration that i missed ?

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

Pascal,

What BSOD numbers do you see?
What service pack of EWF QFE do you use?

Regards,
Slobodan

 

[KM]

Just to add to Slobodan's reply..

Pascal, you mentioned you use EWF RAM mode. But you don't see anything in FBALog. That leads me to believe you are using EWF RAM Reg
mode. Can you clarify?

In case you use EWF RAM with the EWF Config partition present, please delete the partition before you re-deploy the image. This way
you know for sure the EWF state is disabled during FBA (assuming you set disabled in the component's settings).

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

It took me a little while cause i wanted to ensure that the size matters....
hopefully, size do not matters on Blue Screen Generation.

However, i'm having different blue screen generation dam@#$%.

Per example : on the first boot of a "functional" image, a blue screen is
generated early in the process; if i reboot it a second time, the blue
screen is not generated again :
*** STEP: 0x0000007B (0xF9C6B528, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

I have others blue screen and different behaviors that i'm investigating on
right now; the feeling i have is that doing FBA directly on a Compact Flash
may corrupt it and generate BSOD... can it be possible ?

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

I made several tests this morning and have surprising behaviors...
(My Compact flash is a Slave device on secondary ide channel)

BSOD 0x0000007E happens sometimes at startup, i reboot then
BSOD 0x0000007F can happen sometimes, if it happens, i reboot then
BSOD 0x000000F4 Happens... i reboot then...

Without modifying the image, i can get threw FBA installation and have a
working XPE system; (condition: reboot each time i have a BSOD)...

Do someone have hints ?

I will probably try to put my image on a IDE disk or IDE Flash disk.

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

How can i know the EWF QFE i use ? (i haven't made any update since SP2
installed)

 

[KM]

Pascal,

Since you are using SP2, the EFW binaries there are the latest.

KM

 

[KM]

Pascal,

I have others blue screen and different behaviors that i'm investigating on right now; the feeling i have is that doing FBA
directly on a Compact Flash may corrupt it and generate BSOD... can it be possible ?

Yes, it is possible. You should be doing FBA on HDD.

KM

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

Pascal,

These errors are too random :-(

- First make sure that you have User mode PnP component.

7B error is common one and indicate problem with boot critical disk drivers.
Read about it trough:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...public.windowsxp.embedded&q=0x0000007B&qt_g=1

Since you have passed FBA this is probably not a problem.

Certain sectors with high write count can be damaged on CF during the FBA.
So you should do FBA on HDD and then enable Reg RAM EWF and copy image to
CF.

So use other CF device or even different CF adapter.

Also you can make small working image by using Minlogon sample macro and
resolve dependencies.
You won't need TAP or TA results for image to work.

Regards,
Slobodan

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

I will add User mode PnP component;

How do i enable Reg RAM EWF ?

 

[Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)]

Pascal,

I will add User mode PnP component;

If you don't have it it might explain the problem up to some level.

How do i enable Reg RAM EWF ?

The easiest way:
http://www.slobodanbrcin.com/xpe/ewf/regramewf.html

Or you can follow MS product documentation.

Regards,
Slobodan

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

Finally, Pnp (User-Mode) component was already included; running FBA onto a
HardDisk fixed almost all my BSOD problems; Thank you!

Right now, even with the hard disk, at boot, a 7E BSOD is thrown
intermittently; very intermittently; it happens also at the same frequency
with a CF.

*** STOP: 0x0000007E ( 0xC0000005, 0x804E79F3, 0xF9C6B478, 0xF9C6B174 )

Also, i havent configured Reg RAM EWF, i don't understant what it does; can
you explain ?

Best Regards!

 

[KM]

Pascal,

*** STOP: 0x0000007E ( 0xC0000005, 0x804E79F3, 0xF9C6B478, 0xF9C6B174 )

Do you have any 3rd party drivers added to your image?

Also, see if these links are of any help:
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=321637&sd=RMVP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330182&sd=RMVP
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...crosoft.public.windowsxp.embedded&q=7E&qt_g=1

Also, i havent configured Reg RAM EWF, i don't understant what it does; can
you explain ?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/xpehelp/html/xegrfEWFRAMRegOverlays.asp

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

How can i transfer data from HD to CF after my target is configured ? cause
when i place both (HD and CF) inside another computer and then copy all
files, i have the following error when booting from CF:

"Windows cannot create a temporary profile directory. This may be caused by
insufficient serurity rights. If this problem persists, contact your network
administrator."

This error is produced at automatic logon...

 

[KM]

Pascal,

It is likely what is happening is that your drive letter assignments are getting changed. Do you have HDD and CF both presented when
you are trying to boot from CF? (detach HDD)

Please clean up [HKLM\System\MountedDevices] key just before you copy the image to CF.

Read more about XPe/XP drive letter assignemnts here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/tips/xp/rtpartin/default.aspx.

KM

 

[Pascal Bouchard]

It resolved the problem; thanks!

Pascal,

It is likely what is happening is that your drive letter assignments are
getting changed. Do you have HDD and CF both presented when you are trying
to boot from CF? (detach HDD)

Please clean up [HKLM\System\MountedDevices] key just before you copy the
image to CF.

Read more about XPe/XP drive letter assignemnts here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/embedded/community/community/tips/xp/rtpartin/default.aspx.

KM

How can i transfer data from HD to CF after my target is configured ?
cause when i place both (HD and CF) inside another computer and then copy
all files, i have the following error when booting from CF:

"Windows cannot create a temporary profile directory. This may be caused
by insufficient serurity rights. If this problem persists, contact your
network administrator."

This error is produced at automatic logon...