Blank Space at Bottom of Web?

M

Murray

I don't. It's gone for me. You need to close all open instances of IE (and
maybe flush the cache) and try again.

--
Murray

Oscar said:
I added scroll="auto" to the body tag and published. The blank space is
still there in my browser. Other suggestions? Thanks.


Murray said:
I do. It's a phantom horizontal scrollbar. I think the way to get rid
of
it is to add this to the body tag -

<body ... scroll="auto">

--
Murray

Tom Pepper Willett said:
I don't see the blank space anymore.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| OK, I got rid of all my <div> tags, and I've turned off the "Use div
| tags..." option (thanks, didn't know that was there!)
|
| Now, back to my original question. When I initially view my web page, I
see
| a blank space at the bottom of the screen, below the last cell. When
I
click
| on my browser's "Refresh" button, it goes away. How do I permanently
| eliminate this blank space? Thanks for all your help.
|
| http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/
|
|
| | > Check tools > Page options and see if "Use div tags when centering" is
| checked. If so uncheck it.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > .......................with a computer
| >
| | > Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?Thanks to everyone for their
comments.
As
| info, FP2000 is
| > generating all the <div> tags. Every time I create a table and use the
| Table Properties window to
| > set table alignment to "center", FP generates the following tags
and
| corresponding closing tags:
| > <div align="center">
| > <center>
| >
| > Regardless, I removed all the <div> tags and replaced them with
| align="center" within the <table>
| > tag. I did this for the main page and for the Include Page. I
posted
it
| again to
| > http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/. The source code should now be free
of
any
| <div> tags. I still
| > initially get the blank space at the bottom of the page that
disappears
| when I click "Refresh" on
| > the browser. What now? All other thoughts and suggestions are most
| welcome. Thanks for your help!
| >
message
| > | > They are not extra Tom. If you open the page in FP2003 and change to
| code view you can easily see
| > that they match simply by placing the cursor in each of them.
| >
| > Why he has the entire page in a DIV I don't know and that is likely
the
| cause of the problem.
| >
| > Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Tom Pepper Willett [mailto:[email protected]]
| > > Posted At: 16. september 2004 16:23
| > > Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
| > > Conversation: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
| > > Subject: Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
| > >
| > >
| > > What's all this extra code at the bottom?
| > >
| > > </td>
| > > </tr>
| > > </table>
| > > </td>
| > > </tr>
| > > </table>
| > > </center>
| > > </div>
| > > --
| > > ===
| > > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > ---
| > > About FrontPage 2003:
| > > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > Understanding FrontPage:
| > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > > ===
| > > | > > | Hey - I posted this previously, but I did a bad job of posing
the
| > > | question...
| > > |
| > > | I'm developing a web using FP2000. All content is enclosed
| > > in tables.
| > > | I
| > > want
| > > | the last cell to "sit" on the bottom of the screen display,
so
that
| > > | none
| > > of
| > > | the page bg is visible below this cell. I've done this
| > > before with no
| > > | problems. On the new web, however, when I view the page in
| > > my browser
| > > | (IE 6.0), I initially see a blank space below the last cell. If
I
| > > | click "Refresh" on my browser, the blank space disappears
| > > and the page
| > > | looks as intended.
| > > |
| > > | This is driving me crazy. The layout is very similar to one
| > > that works
| > > fine,
| > > | and I can't find any difference that matters, except
| > > perhaps the web
| > > | that works properly is a longer page. Regardless, since
| > > clicking "Refresh"
| > > fixes
| > > | the problem, I'm not sure it's a code problem to begin with. All
| > > suggestions
| > > | are appreciated. Thanks for your help.
| > > |
| > > | http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/index.htm
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
O

Oscar

Hey Murray - I dumped the cache and history, rebooted and I'm still gettin'
it. At least it sounds like I'm in the minority. I appreciate all your help
and feedback. I think I'm going to rebuild the webpage and all the Include
Pages from scratch, just to see if something slipped in there that I'm
overlooking. Thanks again for your help.


Murray said:
I don't. It's gone for me. You need to close all open instances of IE (and
maybe flush the cache) and try again.

--
Murray

Oscar said:
I added scroll="auto" to the body tag and published. The blank space is
still there in my browser. Other suggestions? Thanks.


Murray said:
I do. It's a phantom horizontal scrollbar. I think the way to get rid
of
it is to add this to the body tag -

<body ... scroll="auto">

--
Murray

I don't see the blank space anymore.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| OK, I got rid of all my <div> tags, and I've turned off the "Use div
| tags..." option (thanks, didn't know that was there!)
|
| Now, back to my original question. When I initially view my web
page,
I
see
| a blank space at the bottom of the screen, below the last cell. When
I
click
| on my browser's "Refresh" button, it goes away. How do I permanently
| eliminate this blank space? Thanks for all your help.
|
| http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/
|
|
| | > Check tools > Page options and see if "Use div tags when
centering"
is
| checked. If so uncheck it.
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > .......................with a computer
| >
| | > Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?Thanks to everyone for their
comments.
As
| info, FP2000 is
| > generating all the <div> tags. Every time I create a table and
use
the
| Table Properties window to
| > set table alignment to "center", FP generates the following tags
and
| corresponding closing tags:
| > <div align="center">
| > <center>
| >
| > Regardless, I removed all the <div> tags and replaced them with
| align="center" within the <table>
| > tag. I did this for the main page and for the Include Page. I
posted
it
| again to
| > http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/. The source code should now be free
of
any
| <div> tags. I still
| > initially get the blank space at the bottom of the page that
disappears
| when I click "Refresh" on
| > the browser. What now? All other thoughts and suggestions are most
| welcome. Thanks for your help!
| >
message
| > | > They are not extra Tom. If you open the page in FP2003 and
change
to
| code view you can easily see
| > that they match simply by placing the cursor in each of them.
| >
| > Why he has the entire page in a DIV I don't know and that is likely
the
| cause of the problem.
| >
| > Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
| >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Tom Pepper Willett [mailto:[email protected]]
| > > Posted At: 16. september 2004 16:23
| > > Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
| > > Conversation: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
| > > Subject: Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
| > >
| > >
| > > What's all this extra code at the bottom?
| > >
| > > </td>
| > > </tr>
| > > </table>
| > > </td>
| > > </tr>
| > > </table>
| > > </center>
| > > </div>
| > > --
| > > ===
| > > Tom "Pepper" Willett
| > > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| > > ---
| > > About FrontPage 2003:
| > > http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| > > FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
| > > http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
| > > Understanding FrontPage:
| > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
| > > FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
| > >
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
| > > ===
| > > | > > | Hey - I posted this previously, but I did a bad job of posing
the
| > > | question...
| > > |
| > > | I'm developing a web using FP2000. All content is enclosed
| > > in tables.
| > > | I
| > > want
| > > | the last cell to "sit" on the bottom of the screen display,
so
that
| > > | none
| > > of
| > > | the page bg is visible below this cell. I've done this
| > > before with no
| > > | problems. On the new web, however, when I view the page in
| > > my browser
| > > | (IE 6.0), I initially see a blank space below the last
cell.
If
I
| > > | click "Refresh" on my browser, the blank space disappears
| > > and the page
| > > | looks as intended.
| > > |
| > > | This is driving me crazy. The layout is very similar to one
| > > that works
| > > fine,
| > > | and I can't find any difference that matters, except
| > > perhaps the web
| > > | that works properly is a longer page. Regardless, since
| > > clicking "Refresh"
| > > fixes
| > > | the problem, I'm not sure it's a code problem to begin
with.
All
| > > suggestions
| > > | are appreciated. Thanks for your help.
| > > |
| > > | http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/index.htm
| > > |
| > > |
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

In general there is always a return added after inserting a FP Include. To eliminate this, insert
the include into a table row at the bottom of the page, and delete the return that is added after
the include.

Also consider make the Include table to only contain the content with the blue background (480
pixels), this can be a table, instead of the full 750 pixels.


==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Oscar said:
OK, I got rid of all my <div> tags, and I've turned off the "Use div
tags..." option (thanks, didn't know that was there!)

Now, back to my original question. When I initially view my web page, I see
a blank space at the bottom of the screen, below the last cell. When I click
on my browser's "Refresh" button, it goes away. How do I permanently
eliminate this blank space? Thanks for all your help.

http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/


Steve Easton said:
Check tools > Page options and see if "Use div tags when centering" is checked. If so uncheck it.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?Thanks to everyone for their comments. As info, FP2000 is
generating all the <div> tags. Every time I create a table and use the Table Properties window to
set table alignment to "center", FP generates the following tags and corresponding closing tags:
<div align="center">
<center>

Regardless, I removed all the <div> tags and replaced them with
align="center" within the said:
tag. I did this for the main page and for the Include Page. I posted it again to
http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/. The source code should now be free of any
initially get the blank space at the bottom of the page that disappears when I click "Refresh" on
the browser. What now? All other thoughts and suggestions are most welcome. Thanks for your help!

They are not extra Tom. If you open the page in FP2003 and change to code view you can easily see
that they match simply by placing the cursor in each of them.

Why he has the entire page in a DIV I don't know and that is likely the cause of the problem.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pepper Willett [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 16. september 2004 16:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
Subject: Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?


What's all this extra code at the bottom?

</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Hey - I posted this previously, but I did a bad job of posing the
| question...
|
| I'm developing a web using FP2000. All content is enclosed
in tables.
| I
want
| the last cell to "sit" on the bottom of the screen display, so that
| none
of
| the page bg is visible below this cell. I've done this
before with no
| problems. On the new web, however, when I view the page in
my browser
| (IE 6.0), I initially see a blank space below the last cell. If I
| click "Refresh" on my browser, the blank space disappears
and the page
| looks as intended.
|
| This is driving me crazy. The layout is very similar to one
that works
fine,
| and I can't find any difference that matters, except
perhaps the web
| that works properly is a longer page. Regardless, since
clicking "Refresh"
fixes
| the problem, I'm not sure it's a code problem to begin with. All
suggestions
| are appreciated. Thanks for your help.
|
| http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/index.htm
|
|
 
M

Murray

Thomas:

The space he is talking about is one that is the exact height of a
scrollbar, and that disappears on a refresh of the page. My solution will
work by removing that artifact.

I don't think a refresh of the page would do anything to an improperly coded
include, would it?

--
Murray

Thomas A. Rowe said:
In general there is always a return added after inserting a FP Include. To
eliminate this, insert
the include into a table row at the bottom of the page, and delete the
return that is added after
the include.

Also consider make the Include table to only contain the content with the
blue background (480
pixels), this can be a table, instead of the full 750 pixels.


==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Oscar said:
OK, I got rid of all my <div> tags, and I've turned off the "Use div
tags..." option (thanks, didn't know that was there!)

Now, back to my original question. When I initially view my web page, I
see
a blank space at the bottom of the screen, below the last cell. When I
click
on my browser's "Refresh" button, it goes away. How do I permanently
eliminate this blank space? Thanks for all your help.

http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/


Steve Easton said:
Check tools > Page options and see if "Use div tags when centering" is checked. If so uncheck it.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?Thanks to everyone for their comments.
As info, FP2000 is
generating all the <div> tags. Every time I create a table and use the Table Properties window to
set table alignment to "center", FP generates the following tags and corresponding closing tags:
<div align="center">
<center>

Regardless, I removed all the <div> tags and replaced them with
align="center" within the said:
tag. I did this for the main page and for the Include Page. I posted it again to
http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/. The source code should now be free of
any
initially get the blank space at the bottom of the page that disappears when I click "Refresh" on
the browser. What now? All other thoughts and suggestions are most welcome. Thanks for your help!

They are not extra Tom. If you open the page in FP2003 and change to code view you can easily see
that they match simply by placing the cursor in each of them.

Why he has the entire page in a DIV I don't know and that is likely
the cause of the problem.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pepper Willett [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 16. september 2004 16:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
Subject: Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?


What's all this extra code at the bottom?

</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Hey - I posted this previously, but I did a bad job of posing the
| question...
|
| I'm developing a web using FP2000. All content is enclosed
in tables.
| I
want
| the last cell to "sit" on the bottom of the screen display, so
that
| none
of
| the page bg is visible below this cell. I've done this
before with no
| problems. On the new web, however, when I view the page in
my browser
| (IE 6.0), I initially see a blank space below the last cell. If I
| click "Refresh" on my browser, the blank space disappears
and the page
| looks as intended.
|
| This is driving me crazy. The layout is very similar to one
that works
fine,
| and I can't find any difference that matters, except
perhaps the web
| that works properly is a longer page. Regardless, since
clicking "Refresh"
fixes
| the problem, I'm not sure it's a code problem to begin with. All
suggestions
| are appreciated. Thanks for your help.
|
| http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/index.htm
|
|
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Ok, I do not see the problem in IE

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Murray said:
Thomas:

The space he is talking about is one that is the exact height of a
scrollbar, and that disappears on a refresh of the page. My solution will
work by removing that artifact.

I don't think a refresh of the page would do anything to an improperly coded
include, would it?

--
Murray

Thomas A. Rowe said:
In general there is always a return added after inserting a FP Include. To
eliminate this, insert
the include into a table row at the bottom of the page, and delete the
return that is added after
the include.

Also consider make the Include table to only contain the content with the
blue background (480
pixels), this can be a table, instead of the full 750 pixels.


==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp

Oscar said:
OK, I got rid of all my <div> tags, and I've turned off the "Use div
tags..." option (thanks, didn't know that was there!)

Now, back to my original question. When I initially view my web page, I
see
a blank space at the bottom of the screen, below the last cell. When I
click
on my browser's "Refresh" button, it goes away. How do I permanently
eliminate this blank space? Thanks for all your help.

http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/


Check tools > Page options and see if "Use div tags when centering" is
checked. If so uncheck it.

--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
.......................with a computer

Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?Thanks to everyone for their comments.
As
info, FP2000 is
generating all the <div> tags. Every time I create a table and use the
Table Properties window to
set table alignment to "center", FP generates the following tags and
corresponding closing tags:
<div align="center">
<center>

Regardless, I removed all the <div> tags and replaced them with
align="center" within the <table>
tag. I did this for the main page and for the Include Page. I posted it
again to
http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/. The source code should now be free of
any
<div> tags. I still
initially get the blank space at the bottom of the page that disappears
when I click "Refresh" on
the browser. What now? All other thoughts and suggestions are most
welcome. Thanks for your help!

They are not extra Tom. If you open the page in FP2003 and change to
code view you can easily see
that they match simply by placing the cursor in each of them.

Why he has the entire page in a DIV I don't know and that is likely
the
cause of the problem.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Pepper Willett [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 16. september 2004 16:23
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?
Subject: Re: Blank Space at Bottom of Web?


What's all this extra code at the bottom?

</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</div>
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Hey - I posted this previously, but I did a bad job of posing the
| question...
|
| I'm developing a web using FP2000. All content is enclosed
in tables.
| I
want
| the last cell to "sit" on the bottom of the screen display, so
that
| none
of
| the page bg is visible below this cell. I've done this
before with no
| problems. On the new web, however, when I view the page in
my browser
| (IE 6.0), I initially see a blank space below the last cell. If I
| click "Refresh" on my browser, the blank space disappears
and the page
| looks as intended.
|
| This is driving me crazy. The layout is very similar to one
that works
fine,
| and I can't find any difference that matters, except
perhaps the web
| that works properly is a longer page. Regardless, since
clicking "Refresh"
fixes
| the problem, I'm not sure it's a code problem to begin with. All
suggestions
| are appreciated. Thanks for your help.
|
| http://www.wacweb.com/deviec/index.htm
|
|
 

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