Backup utility

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RCE Defiant

Can anyone recommend a backup utility that I can install on Vista and XP? I
want to avoid the native tools. I ould like something that encrypts the
backup and can password protect them too.
 
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Waqas A Bhutta

hi there

use acronis true image 10
i have been using it for a long time and its a great software

i have used norton and retrospect but true imge is much more stable and
reliable
waqas
 
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Waqas A Bhutta

hi there

use acronis true image 10
i have been using it for a long time and its a great software

i have used norton and retrospect but true imge is much more stable and
reliable
waqas
 
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Waqas A Bhutta

sorry
it doesnt encrypt the backup
just do a compression and password protect

use folder lock to encrypt the backup image...but its again upto you
 
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Michal Kawecki

RCE Defiant said:
Can anyone recommend a backup utility that I can install on Vista and
XP? I want to avoid the native tools. I ould like something that
encrypts the backup and can password protect them too.


If you want partition image backup then look at Drive Snapshot
http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/home.htm . It's small (less than 200 kB),
very fast and reliable tool. I use it from years. It's compatible with
all Windows version (with Vista too) except Windows 98. Images can be
encrypted with password protected AES 128 bit key. And you can simply
exclude certain files or folders from backup.
 
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RCE Defiant

Michal Kawecki said:
If you want partition image backup then look at Drive Snapshot
http://www.drivesnapshot.de/en/home.htm . It's small (less than 200 kB),
very fast and reliable tool. I use it from years. It's compatible with all
Windows version (with Vista too) except Windows 98. Images can be
encrypted with password protected AES 128 bit key. And you can simply
exclude certain files or folders from backup.

I've been having a look at Second Copy, looks like it might be what I'm
after.
 
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Uncle Grumpy

RCE Defiant said:
I've been having a look at Second Copy, looks like it might be what I'm
after.

It's an amazing little program. I've been using it for longer than I
can remember. I think it might date prior to 1999.

I even use it to keep several directories - most notably the one
keeping my Outlook email data and settings - synched between my main
computer and my notebook using a flash drive..
 
R

RCE Defiant

Uncle Grumpy said:
Google "Second Copy"

I've just been checking this app out and it only seems to do one folder at a
time when I want to select stuff all over the place and back them up at the
same time.
 
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Uncle Grumpy

I've just been checking this app out and it only seems to do one folder at a
time when I want to select stuff all over the place and back them up at the
same time.

You can setup MULTIPLE copy routines. As many as you want. Each with
different settings/parameters.

It will even save backups of files that have been deleted in the
copying process (when older or missing files have been found). One of
my routines keeps 10 copies of older files.

I've found nothing missing in the program in the many years I've been
using it.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per Uncle Grumpy:
It's an amazing little program. I've been using it for longer than I
can remember. I think it might date prior to 1999.

Do you specify a separate directory for copies of superceded files? Or do you
just let them keep building up in the base backup directory?

Either way, how does it go with finding a particular version of a file with the
"(11th last version of).... (10th last version of)".. naming scheme?

Or is there a way to customize the names?
 
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RCE Defiant

Uncle Grumpy said:
You can setup MULTIPLE copy routines. As many as you want. Each with
different settings/parameters.

I don't want to have to create multiple though and manage them all I want
one that can copy multiple folders. Much easier.
 
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Uncle Grumpy

RCE Defiant said:
I don't want to have to create multiple though and manage them all I want
one that can copy multiple folders. Much easier.

Good for you.

You probably want it to be freeware too.

I think you're a moron for expecting something to be as perfect as you
want, but that's your choice.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per RCE Defiant:
I don't want to have to create multiple though and manage them all I want
one that can copy multiple folders. Much easier.

It takes a little work up front, but I think it's worthwhile to have all of my
data in one place. In my case, a dedicated disk drive. But the concept
would be the same if somebody just created something like C:\Data.

When that's the case, only one backup routine is needed unless somebody wants to
back up different subdirectories at different frequencies.

I've been putting up with Retrospect's gawdawful UI because it's the only one
I've found that allows searching for all generations of a given file without
having to know what date the one I want was backed up.

As basic as it is, "Second Copy" seems quite elegant to me - although I've only
played around with for a few hours yet...

Certainly, it allows me to painlessly browse all the various versions of a given
backed up file. Only question I have is how convenient/inconvenient it locating
copies is with the naming convention they use for incremental copies.

They seem to use:
-----------------------------
(2nd last version of) Abc.txt
(3rd last version of) Abc.txt
(4th last version of) Abc.txt
(5th last version of) Abc.txt
(6th last version of) Abc.txt
(7th last version of) Abc.txt
(8th last version of) Abc.txt
(9th last version of) Abc.txt
(10th last version of) Abc.txt
(11th last version of) Abc.txt
-----------------------------

Which seems to me to present sorting/presentation/viewing problems when one has
a lot of superceeded versions.

I'm hoping to find a setup parm that would let me force it to something like:
------------------------
Abc.txt 001
Abc.txt 002
Abc.txt 003
Abc.txt 004
Abc.txt 005
Abc.txt 006
Abc.txt 007
Abc.txt 008
Abc.txt 009
Abc.txt 000
Abc.txt 011
Abc.txt 012
--------------------------

Which, besides making a given version of a file easier to find when there are a
lot of different files/copies, would also have the advantage of making the file
un-openable by accidental click - i.e. the file would need to have it's suffix
removed.
 
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(PeteCresswell)

Per Waqas A Bhutta:
here is the link to free trial download

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/download/link/?TrueImage10.0_d_en.exe

it has everything u need

I'm playing with the demo version right now.

*Much* better UI than Retrospect.

Question: After a couple hundred incrementals have been run, and I want to see
all the versions of XYZ.txt that are in the backups, does the "Search" icon do
the trick? Or do I have to look in each "Slice" separately?

I ran a small backup (about 3 gigs worth) and one incremental. But when double
clicked the main .tip file and then did clicked the "Search" icon in the
Windows-looking file/directory window that came up, things didn't happen the way
I expected.
 

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