AVOIDING VIOLATION of MS COPYRIGHT LAWS

[Michael P Gabriel]

Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
that was answered by LEM..

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
what...drag and drop?

Oh, I'm so confused!
Thanks
Mike
Picture Rocks, AZ

 

[Robert Moir]

Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
that was answered by LEM..

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
what...drag and drop?

Well presumably the dell came with a windows install disk or a "factory
restore" disk. Why not use that?

 

[Guest]

You can install it as many times as you want, you have
the key right ?? There is no law, just some silly
agreement they included in their program, that no one
know if it's enforceable, since they will not take it to
court, afraid they might lose.

Call This Number to Activate: Explain your problem,
Be nice ,but forceful. Don't take any crap. Ask for a
supervisor if you have a problem. Ask for their name.
Remember it's their Activation scheme, not your's, you
paid now it's up too them.

Call , 888-352-7140 and explain the situation.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Actually, there's no such "law." (Not that Microsoft is in any
position to even dictate "laws" of any kind.) You've apparently been
listening to some paranoid conspiracy-monger. Didn't it even occur to
you to read your OEM EULA for yourself, rather than listening to some
paranoid rant? You really must work on your critical thinking
abilities; you're far too gullible.

There's no limit to the number of times you can reinstall and
activate the same WinXP license on the same PC. If it's been more
than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key,
you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without
problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm

As for how:

Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered
the opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of
the installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of
boot devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm



Bruce Chambers

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[HillBillyBuddhist]

Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
that was answered by LEM..

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
what...drag and drop?

Oh, I'm so confused!
Thanks
Mike
Picture Rocks, AZ

Use the XP CD that came with your Dell computer. It's BIOS locked to your
computer and does not require activation. Reinstall it as many times as you
like on that particular computer.

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I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details.

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[kurttrail]

Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
that was answered by LEM..

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
what...drag and drop?

Oh, I'm so confused!
Thanks
Mike
Picture Rocks, AZ

You should be more worried about all the fake MS emails you'll be getting
after posting with a real email address.

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http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Peter Canada]

heh...I got an easier solution if you know how to hook up hdd as slaves and
masters. Get a hold of a norton system works cd with norton ghost on it or
Disk Image, and create an image of your old hard drive to your new hard
drive. And voila it'll boot up exactly where you left off.

P.S. I think you can create a ghost image with just booting off the norton
cd.

Of course if you don't delete WinXp from the other hdd your violating your
license agreement.

 

[mrtee]

Since you are (were) going to install the 80 GB HDD as a slave, just install it as slave to keep your data files on it?

In the event that the XP OS would need to be reinstalled you wouldn't need to mess with (or lose) those files.

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Just my 2¢ worth
Jeff
__________in response to__________
| Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
| that was answered by LEM..
|
| My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
| with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
| 40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
| programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.
|
| How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
| without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
| Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
| imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
| what...drag and drop?
|
| Oh, I'm so confused!
| Thanks
| Mike
| Picture Rocks, AZ

 

[kurttrail]

heh...I got an easier solution if you know how to hook up hdd as
slaves and masters. Get a hold of a norton system works cd with
norton ghost on it or Disk Image, and create an image of your old
hard drive to your new hard drive. And voila it'll boot up exactly
where you left off.

P.S. I think you can create a ghost image with just booting off the
norton cd.

Of course if you don't delete WinXp from the other hdd your violating
your license agreement.

Something MS has never legally enforced on private individuals. When it
comes to home use of software, MS's EULA is nothing but FUD.

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

 

[Frank Jelenko]

Hi, I have a question much similar to the one of 2/7/04 on this venue
that was answered by LEM..

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80. I
imagine that to start I would have to install the 80 as a slave. Then
what...drag and drop?

Another option is to copy your first disk to your second one. For the
second drive to be bootable, you need to use some 3rd party software. I've
successfully used Drive Image from Powerquest.

Ghost by Symantec is another popular disk/partition copy utility.

Using Drive Image it should take less than 10 minutes for the actual copy.

Drive Image is probably a better choice if you've spent a fair amount of
time installing additional software and configuring your system. If, as you
mention, the system is essentially the same as Dell set it up, using the
restore disk from Dell would probably be your better choice - especially
since you'd have to buy Drive Image.

HTH

 

[Alex Nichol]

My new Dell came with WINXP. I did not upgrade the 40 G hdd that came
with, because I already have a spare 80G. I should like to pull the
40G, install the 80G, and reload WNXP. I have very few non-opsys
programs so far and I'd be glad to reload those as well.

How would one go about reloading WIN XP from the Dell Disk onto the 80
without violating MS's nasty law about one ops-sys load per person..
Or, perhaps, how would I transfer everything from the 40 to the 80.

There is no problem: such a system will be handled by the system being
'locked to the BIOS' and as long as you do not change that, you can
change any other hardware as much as you like. Even if it were not so
locked, just changing the HD is not enough to make new activation needed
(unless you reformat, thus losing the system's own record of having been
activated - in that case on the net in seconds). See
www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm for more

I would follow the idea of 'cloning' to the new disk. And then retain
the old one as well - there is a good deal of benefit in having two
physical disks. Indeed why not save trouble, and just install the new
one as a secondary device for data storage? If you do want to 'clone';
What I use is BootIT NG, from http://www.BootitNG.com ($35 shareware -
30 day full functional trial)

Download, to its own folder, extract from the zip, run the bootitng to
make a boot floppy.

With the new drive plugged in as slave/secondary, boot the floppy,
Cancel Install, entering maintenance, then click on Partition work.
Highlight your C:,Copy, then on left select the new drive (HD1) and
Paste.

You might then consider a resize up a bit. But I would not have a C:
bigger than the 40 you presumably have - indeed I would have it smaller,
and have a separate partition for data. You can most conveniently make
a second partition in the remaining space from XP itself - Control Panel
- Admin Tools - Computer Management, select Disk Management and look
lower right for the graphic of the drive. R-click Unallocated space,
Create Partition

Now click on 'View MBR' and in it highlight the entry for this new C
partition and click the 'Set Active' Click 'Write Standard MBR' and
Apply.

Close out, swap the disks to make the new one the one that boots, and
reboot into XP.