AVG installation when NAV installed ??

[QuestionAuthority]

Hello Folks.
I have Norton Systemworks and when I scan with Norton Anti Virus
it continues scanning interminably .. won't finish....
... When scanning after booting to safe mode of Win XP Pro , NAV will
finish scan ok.
NAV would previously finish scan ok, but recently it detected
W32.Spybot.worm + fixed 3 files : Zonealarm.exe system2.exe
00004442.scr + quarantined 2 compressed files : bgpfbwkox.exe
+ qkhbzszwe.exe

All files were detected in c:\windows\system32 FOLDER.

As per instructions from Symantec via web I manually disabled System
Restore ; scanned in Safe Mode ; deleted any values referring to the
above files in Registry :
hkey_local_machine_\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run

Any ideas why NAV won't finish ??

Also for a second opinion I downloaded AVG antivirus but have not yet
installed it. I'd like to have it available to manually scan, i.e.
leave NAV as default background scanner.
How can I do this .. install AVG to use manually from time to time
but have NAV as default scanner ??

Please reply to NG.
Thanks.
-JS

 

[Jan Il]

Hello Folks.
I have Norton Systemworks and when I scan with Norton Anti Virus
it continues scanning interminably .. won't finish....
.. When scanning after booting to safe mode of Win XP Pro , NAV will
finish scan ok.
NAV would previously finish scan ok, but recently it detected
W32.Spybot.worm + fixed 3 files : Zonealarm.exe system2.exe
00004442.scr + quarantined 2 compressed files : bgpfbwkox.exe
+ qkhbzszwe.exe

All files were detected in c:\windows\system32 FOLDER.

As per instructions from Symantec via web I manually disabled System
Restore ; scanned in Safe Mode ; deleted any values referring to the
above files in Registry :
hkey_local_machine_\software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run

Any ideas why NAV won't finish ??

Also for a second opinion I downloaded AVG antivirus but have not yet
installed it. I'd like to have it available to manually scan, i.e.
leave NAV as default background scanner.
How can I do this .. install AVG to use manually from time to time
but have NAV as default scanner ??

You'd probably be better off with an on-demand AV program as your backup AV,
that is run manually from DOS, such as F-Prot. Some viruses can't be
detected or deleted from Windows, so a DOS based program is better to use
for backup. There are other types of on-demand DOS programs, and they all
pretty much work well. I use the F-Prot, so I can only speak for it as to
efficiency.

Jan

 

[FromTheRafters]

You'd probably be better off with an on-demand AV program as your backup AV,
that is run manually from DOS, such as F-Prot.

I heard somewhere that it is not designed for XP, and doesn't work with NTFS.
I suppose the OP could use the commandline scanner of the Windows version.

Some viruses can't be
detected or deleted from Windows, so a DOS based program is better to use
for backup.

....but alas - Microsoft in its infinite wisdom decided not to have the
capability to execute user selected programs included in the WinXP
recovery console.

....and so you have no maintenance OS for these XP machines.
(unless you managed to create one yourself using a PE builder)

 

[Jan Il]

I heard somewhere that it is not designed for XP, and doesn't work with NTFS.
I suppose the OP could use the commandline scanner of the Windows version.

Really. I'm merely guessing that is because it's DOS based? I heard at one
point a while back that MS was perhaps looking to acquire/create an AV
program of their own. Haven't heard much about it lately though.

...but alas - Microsoft in its infinite wisdom decided not to have the
capability to execute user selected programs included in the WinXP
recovery console.

...and so you have no maintenance OS for these XP machines.
(unless you managed to create one yourself using a PE builder)

Why...how thoughtful of MS to make such decisions for the users. I don't
have XP, so I really don't know how it works in that regard. I probably
won't be getting it any time soon either. With a total of 45 patches and
updates thus far, and counting, it does not instill me with a great desire
to run in that direction just yet.

Thank you for the additional information. I appreciate it very much.

Jan

 

[QuestionAuthority]

Yeah, I'm new to XP also.
I went to fprot site before my original post to download F-Prot for
DOS , but then I was led to believe XP is without DOS !! ... not cool
at all !!

( I used f-prot as alternative AV on my win 98 machine )
-JS

 

[Jan Il]

Yeah, I'm new to XP also.
I went to fprot site before my original post to download F-Prot for
DOS , but then I was led to believe XP is without DOS !! ... not cool
at all !!

( I used f-prot as alternative AV on my win 98 machine )

Just one more reason for me to hold off on going to XP. I have not heard
very many things thus far that makes it so great, as opposed to all the
current 45+ required fixes and updates, and problems getting them installed
as well, that don't really feel in a hurry to jump on the bandwagon. I
mean, I really like the idea of being able to make a few decisions of my
own. XP is beginning to sound more like 'HAL' than a user program.

Jan

 

[FromTheRafters]

I heard at one point a while back that MS was perhaps looking to
acquire/create an AV program of their own.

I believe that they have done that, but they would do more
good by trying to create better code to begin with. I think
that they should work *with* the AV community to create
APIs specifically for their puposes.

 

[Jan Il]

I believe that they have done that, but they would do more
good by trying to create better code to begin with. I think
that they should work *with* the AV community to create
APIs specifically for their purposes.

Their own program, or did they rob someone else's brains?
Collaborate *with* the AV community you say? As in, 'Let's work together'?
Why ever would they do that? Who else could have any knowledge they should
openly listen to? Because you see, with XP, all possible needs are met.
Ahmm...well ..whenever they find the right patch or update, that is.
Nothing like adding insult to injury, all in the name of consumer best
interest it seems. ;-)

Jan

 

[Tech Zero]

You'd probably be better off with an on-demand AV program as your
backup AV, that is run manually from DOS, such as F-Prot. Some
viruses can't be detected or deleted from Windows, so a DOS based
program is better to use for backup.

Unless you us XP...
I'd recommend using a truly stand-alone scanner like stinger:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/

Or one of the many online scanners...
Both are viable alternatives in a "non DOS" world.

As for removing any virus that may be found, I've always found it more
fulfilling to do it manually. Sort of like a personal punishment for
getting infected in the first place (not that it's happened recently).

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named Tech Zero:

Unless you us XP...
I'd recommend using a truly stand-alone scanner like stinger:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/

Stinger is not a stand-alone scanner. It is a program specifically
written to search for a few dozen common viruses.

'Tho, it is a good program for killing the ones mentioned at the page
in the link.

 

[null]

Unless you us XP...
I'd recommend using a truly stand-alone scanner like stinger:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/

Well, I guess 42 viruses, Trojans and variants out of well over
100,000 ain't bad


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