Audio Cd burning app with crossfader

Z

Zed Rafi

Hello all,

i dont' know if such an app exists, but i'll never find out if i don't
ask...

i'm looking for an application/plugin/whatever, that would enable me to burn
audio tracks to an Audio CD, and which would automatically crossfade the
audio tracks so that when played in a regular CD player, the album is played
in one single uninterrupted stream.
i would also like the app to burn all the songs as indivual tracks, not as
one big single-block album track.

i know i can use a DJ software, record while i'm mixing tracks, cut the
resulting WAV into individual tracks, and burn them onto a CD with 0 seconds
of gap between the tracks. That's way too long.
I want an app that would automate the mixing of the tracks. I don't care if
the beats are not matched, as long are they are crossfaded.

any suggestions?
 
D

dadiOH

Zed said:
Hello all,

i dont' know if such an app exists, but i'll never find out if i don't
ask...

i'm looking for an application/plugin/whatever, that would enable me
to burn audio tracks to an Audio CD, and which would automatically
crossfade the audio tracks so that when played in a regular CD
player, the album is played in one single uninterrupted stream.
i would also like the app to burn all the songs as indivual tracks,
not as one big single-block album track.

i know i can use a DJ software, record while i'm mixing tracks, cut
the resulting WAV into individual tracks, and burn them onto a CD
with 0 seconds of gap between the tracks. That's way too long.
I want an app that would automate the mixing of the tracks. I don't
care if the beats are not matched, as long are they are crossfaded.

any suggestions?

Wimamp with any cross fader plugin. Then use the diskwriter output to
make the wave files (if they need to be converted from MP3). Both are
output plugins so you'll need a "stacker" such as MuchFX to use them
both simultaneously. Diskwriter is built in to Winamp, other two are
available at http://www.Winamp.com

You'll need to burn the wave files in the same order as the order in
which you had them when created/faded in Winamp.


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T

Tai Fu

converting mp3 to wave is just going to make it sound like crap... might as
well burn a mp3 cd and play them in cd players that plays mp3... saves alot
of space that ways.
 
R

Remove Underscores

Tai Fu said:
converting mp3 to wave is just going to make it sound like crap... might
as
well burn a mp3 cd and play them in cd players that plays mp3... saves
alot
of space that ways.

Not true at all. Converting mp3 to wave is not lossy. You'll get the
original sound of the mp3. Conversion from wave to mp3 is lossy, so the
sound will degrade when going in that direction.
 
H

hummingbird

Not true at all. Converting mp3 to wave is not lossy. You'll get the
original sound of the mp3. Conversion from wave to mp3 is lossy, so the
sound will degrade when going in that direction.

Agreed.
 
D

dadiOH

Tai said:
converting mp3 to wave is just going to make it sound like crap...
might as well burn a mp3 cd and play them in cd players that plays
mp3... saves alot of space that ways.

Nothing - repeat, NOTHING - actually "plays" MP3s. MP3s are ALWAYS
decoded to wave when played and that is what is heard.

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dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
T

Tai Fu

Well, the thing is that since mp3 is already lossy it is like trash in,
transh out. I'd burn them to a CD that ways you can put hundreds of them on
a cd and save the space. Then use a player that plays mp3 from a CD-R
 
J

jon

Actually the mp3 -> wave format can be lossy as when an mp3 file is
played in a cdplayer that supports it the player implements a form of
smoothing in the duration of the digital to analogue conversion, with
wave formats the player assumes the format to be already smoothed (due
to the higher sampling rate). some high quality speakers will pick up
these defects.
On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 05:10:17 GMT, "Remove Underscores"
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Agreed.

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H

hummingbird

Actually the mp3 -> wave format can be lossy as when an mp3 file is
played in a cdplayer that supports it the player implements a form of
smoothing in the duration of the digital to analogue conversion, with
wave formats the player assumes the format to be already smoothed (due
to the higher sampling rate). some high quality speakers will pick up
these defects.

Well it may happen like that when playing MP3 tracks in a CD player
but for myself, the conversion issue only arises when I load MP3s into
Cool Edit for further editing and cleaning etc (CE converts to WAV)
and I never thought there was any degradation in that direction.

I've never considered what happens when an MP3 is played but I
suppose you could easily argue that even WAV files (or recorded
CDs) will suffer some loss when played depending on the kit used.
 
D

dadiOH

hummingbird said:
Well it may happen like that when playing MP3 tracks in a CD player
but for myself, the conversion issue only arises when I load MP3s into
Cool Edit for further editing and cleaning etc (CE converts to WAV)
and I never thought there was any degradation in that direction.

But there is (minor) when CE (or other) re-encodes the edited wave to
MP3.
____________
I've never considered what happens when an MP3 is played but I
suppose you could easily argue that even WAV files (or recorded
CDs) will suffer some loss when played depending on the kit used.

Yes, depends on the decoder for MP3. Some are better than others.

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dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
H

hummingbird

But there is (minor) when CE (or other) re-encodes the edited wave to
MP3.

After cleaning/normalising etc with CE, I use Lame to re-encode.
Oddly, the bit rate often then ends up higher than the original. Other
tweaks I use in CE almost always end up with a better sounding song.
____________


Yes, depends on the decoder for MP3. Some are better than others.

Since my hearing is not too brilliant these days (too many years of
Rock n Roll I guess) I probably don't notice much difference :)
 
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FirstName LastName

hummingbird said:
After cleaning/normalising etc with CE, I use Lame to re-encode.
Oddly, the bit rate often then ends up higher than the original. Other
tweaks I use in CE almost always end up with a better sounding song.

No matter with what bitrate you reencode the will always have less
quality than the original. You shouldn't reencode to a lossy format like
mp3.
 

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