ATI are fakes


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Ted F

We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

ATI has been really slow on putting an UPDATED and FIXED, "MMC" version on
the web. Last update was 5/17/2005. Even thats NOT fixed too many bugs (MMC
9.08).

It just tells me that ATI will not be updating the buggy MMC program
anymore, So, it's time to switch to "Nvidia".
 
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Tony DiMarzio

Ted F said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

You, are an idiot.
 
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Tom Lake

Ted F said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

I just loaded 5.13 last night and I can tell you that's no old driver!
My 3-D programs are much faster (subjectively) than with 5.12.

Tom Lake
 
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RzR

Ted said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

ATI has been really slow on putting an UPDATED and FIXED, "MMC" version on
the web. Last update was 5/17/2005. Even thats NOT fixed too many bugs (MMC
9.08).

It just tells me that ATI will not be updating the buggy MMC program
anymore, So, it's time to switch to "Nvidia".

see ya!
 
J

J. Clarke

Ted said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

ATI has been really slow on putting an UPDATED and FIXED, "MMC" version on
the web. Last update was 5/17/2005. Even thats NOT fixed too many bugs
(MMC 9.08).

It just tells me that ATI will not be updating the buggy MMC program
anymore, So, it's time to switch to "Nvidia".

How do you know nvidia is updating their drivers? They could just be
changing the numbers too.
 
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Shawk

Ted F said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

ATI has been really slow on putting an UPDATED and FIXED, "MMC" version on
the web. Last update was 5/17/2005. Even thats NOT fixed too many bugs
(MMC
9.08).

It just tells me that ATI will not be updating the buggy MMC program
anymore, So, it's time to switch to "Nvidia".

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/857/
 
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johns

Mostly they just add the new cards to the drivers. The older
cards could just as well stay with the older drivers. Sometimes
that is not true. And sometimes the new drivers force the old
cards to carry a heavier load and drags them down, so ATI
changes the default performance to up the FPS. Dumb to
fall for that. Note: the 5.11 driver defaults to "quality".

johns
 
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Michael Tipotsch

Tom Lake said:
Troll.


I just loaded 5.13 last night and I can tell you that's no old driver!
My 3-D programs are much faster (subjectively) than with 5.12.

Tom Lake

ALL of your 3D programs are MUCH faster after the driver update? LOL
I have an Nvidia card, but I can hardly believe that you can tell a global
difference without a benchmark.

Cu, Icejap
 
G

Gringo

ALL of your 3D programs are MUCH faster after the driver update? LOL
I have an Nvidia card, but I can hardly believe that you can tell a global
difference without a benchmark.

Cu, Icejap

He did say "subjectively". Subjectively, I think I'm the smartest man
in the world.
 
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First of One

The fault is with ATi, as much as with the press. Sites like Anandtech and
Tweakdown make a big deal out of monthly Catalyst driver releases, but never
the multimedia apps.

BTW, an nVidia "AIW" solution may not be all that good, either. You are
better off with a Hauppauge or LeadTek WinfastTV.
 
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DDC

The fault is with ATi, as much as with the press. Sites like Anandtech and
Tweakdown make a big deal out of monthly Catalyst driver releases, but never
the multimedia apps.

BTW, an nVidia "AIW" solution may not be all that good, either. You are
better off with a Hauppauge or LeadTek WinfastTV.


True aiw and vtd nvida card are just a video in solution and not much
more...
 
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Tom Lake

ALL of your 3D programs are MUCH faster after the driver update? LOL
He did say "subjectively". Subjectively, I think I'm the smartest man
in the world.

If you agree with me, then you ARE the smartest man in the world (after me,
of course!) :cool:

Tom Lake
 
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Matt Ion

Shawk said:

Yeah, that's nice for the latest and greatest 3D stuff.

MMC is still crap; GuidePlus is far worse crap, and while that itself is
not ATI's fault, they really COULD find a better TV-guide app to bundle.
AiW-section support itself is still flaky as shit, making it iffy even
with other capture/tuner apps.

My wife wanted something to record her TV shows on her computer. I
bought her a Hauppage WinTV PVR-150 card (Christmas gift, she'll see it
tomorrow). It can't possibly be any worse than my AiW Radeon 9800.
(Her computer does have a third-party Radeon 9250-based card).


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Shawk

Matt Ion said:
Yeah, that's nice for the latest and greatest 3D stuff.

MMC is still crap; GuidePlus is far worse crap, and while that itself is
not ATI's fault, they really COULD find a better TV-guide app to bundle.
AiW-section support itself is still flaky as shit, making it iffy even
with other capture/tuner apps.

My wife wanted something to record her TV shows on her computer. I bought
her a Hauppage WinTV PVR-150 card (Christmas gift, she'll see it
tomorrow). It can't possibly be any worse than my AiW Radeon 9800. (Her
computer does have a third-party Radeon 9250-based card).


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Not disagreeing - dont have an AIW. The OP however started his rant with
"we truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers" (his spelling). My post was just a counter against
that. Hope the other half enjoys the Hauppage - it's the way I'd go if i
didn't just d-load shows. Have a good one.
 
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Benjamin Gawert

Ted said:
We truely dont know if ATI is really updating those video drivers, they
could just change the version and date code in the new drivers. But, there
really old drivers.

ATI has been really slow on putting an UPDATED and FIXED, "MMC" version on
the web. Last update was 5/17/2005. Even thats NOT fixed too many bugs (MMC
9.08).

It just tells me that ATI will not be updating the buggy MMC program
anymore, So, it's time to switch to "Nvidia".

You mean the company Nvidia that still does not offer 64bit WDM drivers
for the video inputs on Nvidia cards?

Benjamin
 
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