Apple/Mac

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Guest

Hi All,

Please could someone help.

I am in the process of trying to identify the best solution (Laptop) for my
son who has just started secondary school. He has explained to me that he
would like an apple laptop, what i wolud like to know is what is Apple/Mac as
opposed to Windows.?

I have no idea what apple/mac is.

Would-could someone explain what the difference is between the two
companies, systems, applications?

Kind Regards.
 
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Richard in AZ

The Apple Company makes computers (MacIntosh - - MAC) that use entirely different Operating System.
At this time, their system is totally proprietary and there are no clones. You must buy from Apple
and you will pay a premium for these units. You will also have to buy software written for the MAC,
Windows based software will not generally work on them. Apple computers have less than 10% of the
world market of computers.

That being said, they do make a very good computer and good software is available for them.
If you ask which is better, Windows or Apple, it would be like asking a Ford dealer and a GM dealer
which has the best car! The opinions are slanted to say the least.
 
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R. McCarty

Apple is the company name. Years ago Apple produced a
computer called a Macintosh ( type of Apple, get it ? ). It
is now generally truncated to just a "Mac". Apple computers
use an operating system called OS X. This would be the
direct comparison between OS X and Windows. A notebook
from Apple will be called a Mac Book.

Apple is OK as long as you can afford it. There's a fair bit of
status symbol associated with Apple products. Would be worth
a trip to Best Buy to see/try out Apple PCs now that Best Buy
has a new working relationship with them. Just look for the giant
Apple display - won't be hard to find.
 
D

DL

You need to find what if any requirements the school has first, as generally
an Apple requires Apple specific software.

i.e. First you find what software is required / recommended / used then you
find the PC to run it - not the otherway round

Be aware that in certain circles having a Mac is no more than a Fashion
Statement. Also unless you are a money no object type of person the latest
all singing & dancing laptop is almost certainly OTT for secondary school.
Another thing to consider, Laptops in a school environment are fragile
items, that dont take kindly to bashing around.
 
H

HeyBub

Peter said:
Hi All,

Please could someone help.

I am in the process of trying to identify the best solution (Laptop)
for my son who has just started secondary school. He has explained to
me that he would like an apple laptop, what i wolud like to know is
what is Apple/Mac as opposed to Windows.?

I have no idea what apple/mac is.

Would-could someone explain what the difference is between the two
companies, systems, applications?

Kind Regards.

He has been captured by a cult. You should investigate a de-programming
camp.

Apple has about 7% of the installed computer market and for the things it
does, it does them pretty well. It just doesn't do a whole lot. Used to be,
Apple was the system of choice for graphics-intensive application and the PC
was the number cruncher. Artists vs accountants.

In the intervening years, Apple has gotten better at so-called commercial
applications and WinTel machines(Windows/Intel) have gotten MUCH better at
graphics.

Apple/Mac is a closed platform. All the hardware comes from Apple and so
does virtually all of the software (although Microsoft wrote most of it).
Comparing the two is like comparing, um, Tiffany's and WalMart.

Still, with a high-school boy, forcing him to use a PC when all his peers
are using Macs would be like making him remove his nose ring. He'll be an
outcast and joining the Marine Corps instead of being a drop-out and joining
the flower people.
 
P

Patrick Keenan

Peter F said:
Hi All,

Please could someone help.

I am in the process of trying to identify the best solution (Laptop) for
my
son who has just started secondary school. He has explained to me that he
would like an apple laptop, what i wolud like to know is what is Apple/Mac
as
opposed to Windows.?

I have no idea what apple/mac is.

Apple is the company, Mac is the computer. The laptops are called MacBooks
and MacBook Pro.

http://www.apple.com/mac/

The operating system today is Mac OS X (X meaning version ten, specifically
10.5 or "leopard"). This is apparently based on a version of Unix.

Mac is short for Macintosh.
Would-could someone explain what the difference is between the two
companies, systems, applications?

Apple is the *only* manufactuer of both the Mac and its OS.

This is extremely unlike the history of the PC, where the main developer,
IBM, released the system hardware specifications in the early eighties.
This allowed other companies (and individuals) to easily make compatible
hardware and caused their market to not just grow, but explode in size; not
only can you get thousands of different brands and types of PC, they can all
run many different operating systems - but not the Mac OS.

Apple kept their secrets close and thus stayed small to the point of being
marginalized. What saved them, probably, was the iPod.

Until recently, Apple used non-intel processors, but now have shifted to
Intel systems, which allows new Macs to also run Windows.

Macs are most commonly used in arts contexts, where sound and graphics are
important. However, most standard business applications are available for
both Macs and PCs. You will find all the word processors and spreadsheets
and browsers you need. And it will be easy to record audio and video;
because Apple development is done in such a small circle, compatibility
tends to be high.

You do want to take some quality reviews of the particular models you're
looking at. Some laptops, and this applies to non-Macs too, can get *very*
hot, and this can be a problem.

Macs tend to be focused on "ease of use", which can sometimes be frustrating
for those who want more control over the system. For a long time, Mac mice
had *one* button, which to me is an indication of the kind of restrictions
Apple intends to place on users. But that could just be me; I use a
command line pretty frequently.

For school use, Macs are just fine, and in some ways are better - there are
fewer (which does not mean none) viruses and assorted malware targeting the
Mac OS, so you may find that when your son is out chatting and browsing and
downloading - and be sure that this will happen - there is less chance of
system-damaging infections. But this does not mean that there is no chance
of such things.

The word processing programs you get for the Mac need to be able to save in
the same document formats that PCs use. This is *easy* to test for; write
something, save it, open it on a PC with MS Word installed. If it opens,
it's fine.

I would suggest that you ask the school for their recommendations on Macs
and PCs. It's likely that they will list both, which means that either is
acceptable.

In the end, what is important is that the computer can do what it is
intended for, that the applications needed are available, and that the user
is comfortable with the system.

Hope this helps.

-pk
 
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PA Bear

I can assure you that your son knows the difference, Peter. Have you asked
him? His teachers?
 
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Guest

Hi All,

Thanks very much for all your replys. They have all been informative and
interesting. I like what was said when the comparison was of Tiffanys -
Wallmart :).

Anyway still undecided what to do. I will start pricing up on the internet
soon.

Once again, thanks very much for taking the time out to reply to my questions.

Kind Regards.
 
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RJK

Worth consideration is the fact that the VAST range of application software
written for MS Windows will not run on an Apple/MAC.

....and there is a whole galaxy of career opportunities in the IBM PC
compatible / Windows arena, when compared to Apple !

Very strangely, I think the BBC makes side use of Apple's, what a GROSS
waste and abuse of t.v. license payers money !

....then there's that strange thing called Linux ! ...I understand the some
of the UK Police systems use Linux because it's supposed to be more secure,
....cough !!!!

regards, Richard
 

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