Amcap (USBPCCamPlus) doesn't seem to work, does it work for you?

[Paul]

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/usb device view.TXT

This hyperlink for the txt file should hopefully work.

The "USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe" installs the
snpstd3.inf file, and it has an entry for that camera type also.
The camera consists of a controller chip (SN9C120) and a sensor
chip (HV7131R).

USB\VID_0c45&PID_613c ; SN9C120 + HV7131R

So the same driver package should be working with that camera.

You should also see confirmation of the driver installation,
by looking in setupapi.log . Look for the 613c there. Also
inspect Device Manager again, to understand the current state
of the hardware you have plugged in.

The HV7131R is a 640x480 active pixel CMOS sensor.

A search for the terms Pccam168 and hv7131r, show they're part of the
same camera mechanism.

Paul

 

[AdeW]

The "USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe" installs the
snpstd3.inf file, and it has an entry for that camera type also.
The camera consists of a controller chip (SN9C120) and a sensor
chip (HV7131R).

USB\VID_0c45&PID_613c  ; SN9C120 + HV7131R

So the same driver package should be working with that camera.

You should also see confirmation of the driver installation,
by looking in setupapi.log . Look for the 613c there. Also
inspect Device Manager again, to understand the current state
of the hardware you have plugged in.

The HV7131R is a 640x480 active pixel CMOS sensor.

A search for the terms Pccam168 and hv7131r, show they're part of the
same camera mechanism.

    Paul

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/video4linux/gspca.txt

304 sonixj 0c45:6138 Sn9c120 Mo4000
307 sonixj 0c45:613c Sonix Pccam168
308 sonixj 0c45:6143 Sonix Pccam168


I searched Google and found a webpage
..
Below has 613e (which isn't on the mjmwired.net list),
6142 (also not on mjmwired list, so is there something wrong with the
list? is the mjmwired list accurate?) .
6143 (Sonix Pccam168 which is mine but mjmwired list has two entries
for it, Should Pccamm168 have two entries?),

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-added.html+SN9C120+0x613C&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk

{USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x613e), BSI(SN9C120, OV7630, 0x21)},
+/* {USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x6142), BSI(SN9C120, PO2030N, ??)},
*sn9c120b*/
+ {USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x6143), BSI(SN9C120, SP80708, 0x18)}, /
*sn9c120b*/

 

[Paul]

http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/video4linux/gspca.txt

304 sonixj 0c45:6138 Sn9c120 Mo4000
307 sonixj 0c45:613c Sonix Pccam168
308 sonixj 0c45:6143 Sonix Pccam168


I searched Google and found a webpage
.
Below has 613e (which isn't on the mjmwired.net list),
6142 (also not on mjmwired list, so is there something wrong with the
list? is the mjmwired list accurate?) .
6143 (Sonix Pccam168 which is mine but mjmwired list has two entries
for it, Should Pccamm168 have two entries?),

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-added.html+SN9C120+0x613C&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk

{USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x613e), BSI(SN9C120, OV7630, 0x21)},
+/* {USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x6142), BSI(SN9C120, PO2030N, ??)},
*sn9c120b*/
+ {USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x6143), BSI(SN9C120, SP80708, 0x18)}, /
*sn9c120b*/

The two lines in that cached web page that match are:

sonixj 0c45:613c Sonix Pccam168
{USB_DEVICE(0x0c45, 0x613c), BSI(SN9C120, HV7131R, 0x11)}

So Pccam168 is the same thing as SN9C120 + HV7131R (controller + sensor).

The maximum resolution without using interpolation
should be 640x480 with the HV7131R sensor. Interpolation
is cheating and doesn't add any extra information
content. Interpolation is used on various optical
sensors, as a means to exaggerate their performance.

Paul

 

[AdeW]

The "USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe" installs the
snpstd3.inf file, and it has an entry for that camera type also.
The camera consists of a controller chip (SN9C120) and a sensor
chip (HV7131R).

USB\VID_0c45&PID_613c  ; SN9C120 + HV7131R

So the same driver package should be working with that camera.

You should also see confirmation of the driver installation,
by looking in setupapi.log . Look for the 613c there. Also
inspect Device Manager again, to understand the current state
of the hardware you have plugged in.

The HV7131R is a 640x480 active pixel CMOS sensor.

A search for the terms Pccam168 and hv7131r, show they're part of the
same camera mechanism.

    Paul

I eventually got round to finding a computer (called t3) which had
never had the dental camera plugged in. Normally i just let the
computer search for HP Basic starter camera driver but instead i
installed the troublesome software
USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe from
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=ht...M).exe&usg=AFQjCNG_06re5VGNwANr-RGhk6lyAeIbAw

I've uploaded screen shot JPGs and files collectively here
https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office...installed amcap t3?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=610365145

they're also more individually here
https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office... t3/t3.maccdib.zip?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=408653088
https://nvneuq.blu.livefilestore.co...Wsn8U4hZXr3zk4/t3.maccdib.zip?download&psid=1
https://nvneuq.blu.livefilestore.co...y6/usb device view installed amcap.TXT?psid=1

My 613c dental camera is in the snpstd3.inf and setupapi.log files
although PcCam168 isn't in either file.

When i plug this camera in it now says it found "USB PC Camera
[sn9c120]" when it usually just say "USB Camera". The jpg shows the
device manager still calls it "USB Camera" but with an exclamation
mark(!) and code 28 error: "the drivers for this device are not
installed". Device Instance Id on the jpg says ...

USB\VID_0c45&PID_613e\5&28CODE0&0&2

can't find 5&28CODE0&0&2 anywhere but 28CODE must be a reference to
code 28 error

I stopped at actually installing the driver for sn9c120 because of the
"not passed windows logo testing" message - although this same message
appeared for USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe. I decided
to analyse the setupapi.log and snpstd3.inf files at this point.

I think the installation must have changed the identity of the camera.
It must think its sn9c120 now but its got it wrong i think. Whenever
I've plugged it in it has never said sn9c120 - well apart from once
when i pressed alt tab on another computer t6 with snapshot button
which i never installed the troublesome software but just HP Basic
starter camera driver.

There is this line in snpstd3.inf which mentions 613c
%USBPCamV2Desc% = SN.PCamV2.XP,USB\VID_0c45&PID_613c ; SN9C120 +
HV7131R

setupapi.log has reference to 613c

#-019 Searching for hardware ID(s): usb\vid_0c45&pid_613c&rev_0101,usb
\vid_0c45&pid_613c

#I289 Removing device "USB\VID_0C45&PID_613C\5&28C0DE0&0&2".

#I022 Found "USB\VID_0c45&PID_613c" in C:\WINDOWS\inf\oem4.inf;
Device: "USB PC Camera (SN9C120)"; Driver: "USB PC Camera (SN9C120)";
Provider: "Sonix"; Mfg: "Sonix"; Section name: "SN.PCamV2.XP".

#I087 Driver node not trusted, rank changed from 0x00000001 to
0x00008001.

What does driver node not trusted mean?
+ + + + +
In USB Device view which i tried after installing it also has the !
exclamation mark and "no open pipes". I don't know if it would have
said this before i installed the troublesome software anyway - i
didn't try it. What does no open pipes mean?

Open Pipes: 0
*!*ERROR: No open pipes!
idVendor: 0x0C45 = Sonix Technology Co., Ltd.
idProduct: 0x613C

 

[Twayne]

I don't have all your answers, but I have a couple:

In

....

Do you mean two drivers are trying to run simultanerously? Unless the
instructions say to do that, it could cause a lot of problems.

....


I eventually got round to finding a computer (called t3)
which had
never had the ....


can't find 5&28CODE0&0&2 anywhere but 28CODE must be a
reference to
code 28 error

Makes lots of sense.

I stopped at actually installing the driver for sn9c120
because of the
"not passed windows logo testing" message - although this
same message
appeared for
USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe. I decided
to analyse the setupapi.log and snpstd3.inf files at this
point.

That message is pointless and generally useless as long as you trust the
software you have. MS at one time dreamed of being the king of all software
installations and thought the world would register their software with them.
Well, no one did of course, or hardly anyone, which makes sense. If it IS MS
trusted, then it should be fine to use. If it's not, it's up to the user to
know where they got the software from and to know it's safe to use (free of
bad code, malicious code, etc). So it's quite safe to use as long as you are
sure the place you got it from is a white hat. In other words, you used
common sense<g>.
....

HTH,

Twayne`

 

[AdeW]

So Pccam168 is the same thing as SN9C120 + HV7131R (controller + sensor).
I forgot this bit. So I suppose it hasn't really changed identity.

 

[AdeW]

I've uploaded screen shot JPGs and files collectively herehttps://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/browse.aspx/installed%20...

they're also more individually herehttps://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/self.aspx/installed%20am...https://nvneuq.blu.livefilestore.co...ilestore.com/y1p_LlDa6pWy1ZefFEg9mIGdSnMcO1Ix...

I forgot I'd left the permission on these hyperlinks for 'just me'.
They're now public.

The bottom two which were direct hyperlinks to files rather then the
folder on my Skydrive don't work for some reason but that's hardly a
problme since thethe two two links above them work which give access
to all the files.

 

[AdeW]

I've uploaded screen shot JPGs and files collectively here https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office...365145&usg=AFQjCNGUEqzjieHxV2Ce_NJR2f6JSKHS8Q

they're also more individually here https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office...653088&usg=AFQjCNHVRyvrT6wV2sEI3uLxnNosyoybNQ
https://nvneuq.blu.livefilestore.co...psid=1&usg=AFQjCNGcbVN8F5AbEXnzauYzBW8vQIVhaQ
https://nvneuq.blu.livefilestore.co...psid=1&usg=AFQjCNGuEq6aJEGNRTSvzOf6OROmhBLGlg

That's neater.

I forgot I'd left the permission on these hyperlinks for 'just me'.
They're now public.

The bottom two which were direct hyperlinks to files rather than the
folders on my Skydrive don't work for some reason but that's hardly a
problem since the two links above them work which give access
to all the files via online folders.

 

[AdeW]

https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office...ilestore.com/y1p_LlDa6pWy1ZefFEg9mIGdSnMcO1Ix...



That's neater.

I forgot I'd left the permission on these hyperlinks for 'just me'.
They're now public.

The bottom two which were direct hyperlinks to files rather than the
folders on my Skydrive don't work for some reason but that's hardly a
problem since the two links above them work which give access
to all the files via online folders.

The top two links still say "We can't show you that page" but click on
'Office' and it'll show you my public and shared folders

 

[AdeW]

https://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office...ilestore.com/y1p_LlDa6pWy1ZefFEg9mIGdSnMcO1Ix...



That's neater.

I forgot I'd left the permission on these hyperlinks for 'just me'.
They're now public.

The bottom two which were direct hyperlinks to files rather than the
folders on my Skydrive don't work for some reason but that's hardly a
problem since the two links above them work which give access
to all the files via online folders.

Here's me doing the links again from scratch. The 1st link showing a
Skydrive folder.

To get the 2nd link I right clicked on a zip file to reveal the
context menu then 'Open Link in New Window' which showed the Skydrive
page to a zip file then copied the link from the address bar.

Then I right clicked on the zip file to reveal the context menu then
'copy shortcut' to ge the 3rd link which is a direct link to the
actual file and not a webpage.

Then i went back to the original webpage from the 1st link showing a
Skydrive folder. Then went to webpage for a txt file.
The 4th link is from right click on the txt file 'copy shortcut' for a
direct link to the file.

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office....installed amcap t3?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=610365145

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.... t3/t3.maccdib.zip?wa=wsignin1.0&sa=408653088

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com...BGNdnEGBf8ZcuQ/t3.maccdib.zip?download&psid=1

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com...PQ/usb device view installed amcap.TXT?psid=1

 

[AdeW]

Here's me doing the links again from scratch. The 1st link showing a
Skydrive folder.

To get the 2nd link I right clicked on a zip file to reveal the
context menu then 'Open Link in New Window' which showed the Skydrive
page to a zip file then copied the link from the address bar.

Then I right clicked on the zip file to reveal the context menu then
'copy shortcut' to ge the 3rd link which is a direct link to the
actual file and not a webpage.

Then i went back to the original webpage from the 1st link showing a
Skydrive folder. Then went to webpage for a txt file.
The 4th link is from right click on the txt file 'copy shortcut' for a
direct link to the file.

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/browse.aspx/installed a...

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/self.aspx/installed amc...

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p_7f01llV-_pyuOqWG1Wntc0S0AlKZX...

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pVBf8_jdhaOzwpelZ9IpDr3BmPCpllj...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

For some reason the two 'direct to file' links at the bottom only
worked the same day as i posted them but not since. Today for the 4th
link I'm trying 'open in a new tab' and copying the URL from the
address bar.

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com...MA/usb device view installed amcap.TXT?psid=1

 

[AdeW]

I don't have all your answers, but I have a couple:



Do you mean two drivers are trying to run simultanerously? Unless the
instructions say to do that, it could cause a lot of problems.



Makes lots of sense.


That message is pointless and generally useless as long as you trust the
software you have. MS at one time dreamed of being the king of all software
installations and thought the world would register their software with them.
Well, no one did of course, or hardly anyone, which makes sense. If it IS MS
trusted, then it should be fine to use. If it's not, it's up to the user to
know where they got the software from and to know it's safe to use (free of
bad code, malicious code, etc). So it's quite safe to use as long as you are
sure the place you got it from is a white hat. In other words, you used
common sense<g>.
...

Again the direct-to-file link only seems to work the same day. Still
atleast the two http://cid links to the folders work.

Anyway I recently used another computer. This day this computer is
called t4. I thought i'd check out device manager before installing
HPBasic Starter Camera driver and it shows a code 1: this device is
not configured correctly
I've uploaded JPG screengrabs to a zip file here...

http://cid-64f5892d2f88d17f.office.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/t4.zip

Then installed HPBSC driver and the camera worked. Then i installed
amcap USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe

http://download.chinavasion.com/download/drivers/USBPCCamPlus_v5.18.1.005_120standard(1.3M).exe
(is the file)

....tried the camera but ofcourse it wants to install sn9c120 which i
resist. then uninstalled amcap. Then plug in the camera and it calls
it 'usb camera' 'new hardware found' which last time i when
uninstalled amcap months ago it didn't (that maybe cos i installed the
sn9c120 driver too). I install HPBSC driver and test the camera and it
works! This is a success - no permanent damage to the operating
system.

In device manager 'USB Camera' has moved from 'other devices' to
'imaging devices' that is until i installed the HPBSCdriver when in
imaging devices it turned from a !(exclamation mark)"usb camera" to HP
Basic Starter Camera.

Screenshot of HPBSC driver properties says version 5.18.1.2 dated 16
Mar 2007.

Next i want to see if i can have amcap working with the Hewlett
Packard BSC driver.

I did manage to install Amcap till the warning window logo message
appeared and the system tray pop up said i had a webcam attached, i
then unplugged my dental camera, so then i finish off the
installation. Then am surprised that it wants to restart the computer
because the last installation didn't want to. So I'm thinking its
because the camera was plugged in during instalation. so then i
restart the pc and it occurs to me that i could've tested the camera
right there before restart the PC but its too late. when windows loads
up theres a error message - something missing - i try amcap - it don't
work and nothing in cameras and scanners.

(The next test (on another day in the future) would be to install the
sn9c120 driver which seems to come with amcap)

I then uninstall amcap again from add remove programs - (which
mentions Sonix for technical support.)

My 3rd installation: i didn't have the camera plugged in but it still
wanted to restart pc but before i did that, i thought i'd see if
scanners and cameras in my computer had HPBSC driver and it did and
the dental camera worked! I then tried amcap and it worked with the
camera too! although the frame rate seemed slower than in scanners and
cameras.

Indeed as it shows on the screen grab, it says 3.5 fps although it
also say 0.884 Meg/sec which seems a lot. Why's the frame rate so
little yet the file size is so big?

Any thoughts are welcome.