XP sees MiniDV camcorder via firewire but capture software cannotconnect to it

T

Thumper

I recently got a new mobo and system (see specs below). I added my old
Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card, circa 2001). I
connected my Sony TRV17 MiniDV camcorder into the firewire port.
Windows XP sees the new device and correctly identifies it as a Sony
DV camcorder. This is confirmed in the Device Manager, where the DV
camcorder is listed in the in the Imaging Devices section underneath
my Logitech webcam. So far so good.

When I run AMCap or WinDV to capture the video (I tried both), it
identifies the device in the list of possible capture devices (that
is, it sees my webcam and my MiniDV camcorder).

However, when I change the active device from the drop-down menu from
webcam to camcorder, the status message says "Initializing..." and the
software freezes. When I play the video on my camcorder, no
corresponding image ever appears on the screen. (FWIW, I cannot even
shut down WinDV in the task manager until I turn off the camcorder.)

So, in conclusion, XP says the hardware is ready to use. It correctly
identifies it. But the capture software is having a problem
communicating with the camera.

(Btw, I tried connecting the camcorder into each of the two firewire
ports, I restarted the PC between attempts, I refreshed the hardware
device list. I haven't yet tested the camcorder on another computer
yet.)

1. Is there any other capture software you recommend?
2. Could the webcam be messing things up?
3. Is the mobo somehow messing things up?
4. Is there a new MiniDV driver I need to install? I remember years
ago there was something about the MS driver versus the Texas
Instruments driver? Is this somehow related?

MY SOFTWARE
Windows XP, SP2, fully up-to-date with all the updates

MY HARDWARE
* Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz Dual-Core 64-bit Processor, 2x1.0 MB
Cache, 800FSB, s775, Code Named: Allendale, EM64T, Retail Box, Heat
Sink & Fan, BX80557E4400
* ASUS P5B Motherboard, Intel CPU Support: (Core 2 Duo/Quad, Pentium 4/
D, Celeron), Intel P965/ICH8 Chipset, Socket 775, Ultra Quiet - No Fan/
Heatsink Only, 533/800/1066 FSB Support, 4xDIMM (8GB Max), Dual
Channel DDR2-800 (Effective 1.60 GHz), 4xSerial ATA (SATA300), 1xPCI-E
x16, 3xPCI-E x1, 3xPCI (32bit 33Mhz), JMicron JMB363 IDE Controller:
(1xATA133, 1xSATA300 & 1xeSATA300), Realtek PCI-E 10/100/1000
(Gigabit) Network, ADI High Definition 8-channel Audio w/SPDIF, up to
10xUSB 2.0
* Kingston Value RAM (KVR800D2N5/1G), 1.0 GB PC6400 DDR2 (800 MHz), CL
5.0
* Antec EarthWatts 430 (EA430), 430 Watt ATX12V 2.0 Power Supply, 24-
pin Main Power Connector w/ Detachable 4-pin Section, Dual +12V
Outputs (Rails), Intel & AMD Cetified, 1x80mm Fan, 1 x PCI-E & 4 x
SATA Power Connectors
* Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 400 GB Hard Drive (ST3400620AS), Serial
ATA 2.5, SATA300 (3Gb/s), NCQ, ? ms, 7200 RPM, 16 MB Cache, OEM
* Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card)
 
S

smlunatick

I recently got a new mobo and system (see specs below). I added my old
Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card, circa 2001). I
connected my Sony TRV17 MiniDV camcorder into the firewire port.
Windows XP sees the new device and correctly identifies it as a Sony
DV camcorder. This is confirmed in the Device Manager, where the DV
camcorder is listed in the in the Imaging Devices section underneath
my Logitech webcam. So far so good.

When I run AMCap or WinDV to capture the video (I tried both), it
identifies the device in the list of possible capture devices (that
is, it sees my webcam and my MiniDV camcorder).

However, when I change the active device from the drop-down menu from
webcam to camcorder, the status message says "Initializing..." and the
software freezes. When I play the video on my camcorder, no
corresponding image ever appears on the screen. (FWIW, I cannot even
shut down WinDV in the task manager until I turn off the camcorder.)

So, in conclusion, XP says the hardware is ready to use. It correctly
identifies it. But the capture software is having a problem
communicating with the camera.

(Btw, I tried connecting the camcorder into each of the two firewire
ports, I restarted the PC between attempts, I refreshed the hardware
device list. I haven't yet tested the camcorder on another computer
yet.)

1. Is there any other capture software you recommend?
2. Could the webcam be messing things up?
3. Is the mobo somehow messing things up?
4. Is there a new MiniDV driver I need to install? I remember years
ago there was something about the MS driver versus the Texas
Instruments driver? Is this somehow related?

MY SOFTWARE
Windows XP, SP2, fully up-to-date with all the updates

MY HARDWARE
* Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz Dual-Core 64-bit Processor, 2x1.0 MB
Cache, 800FSB, s775, Code Named: Allendale, EM64T, Retail Box, Heat
Sink & Fan, BX80557E4400
* ASUS P5B Motherboard, Intel CPU Support: (Core 2 Duo/Quad, Pentium 4/
D, Celeron), Intel P965/ICH8 Chipset, Socket 775, Ultra Quiet - No Fan/
Heatsink Only, 533/800/1066 FSB Support, 4xDIMM (8GB Max), Dual
Channel DDR2-800 (Effective 1.60 GHz), 4xSerial ATA (SATA300), 1xPCI-E
x16, 3xPCI-E x1, 3xPCI (32bit 33Mhz), JMicron JMB363 IDE Controller:
(1xATA133, 1xSATA300 & 1xeSATA300), Realtek PCI-E 10/100/1000
(Gigabit) Network, ADI High Definition 8-channel Audio w/SPDIF, up to
10xUSB 2.0
* Kingston Value RAM (KVR800D2N5/1G), 1.0 GB PC6400 DDR2 (800 MHz), CL
5.0
* Antec EarthWatts 430 (EA430), 430 Watt ATX12V 2.0 Power Supply, 24-
pin Main Power Connector w/ Detachable 4-pin Section, Dual +12V
Outputs (Rails), Intel & AMD Cetified, 1x80mm Fan, 1 x PCI-E & 4 x
SATA Power Connectors
* Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 400 GB Hard Drive (ST3400620AS), Serial
ATA 2.5, SATA300 (3Gb/s), NCQ, ? ms, 7200 RPM, 16 MB Cache, OEM
* Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card)

As with any devices, you need to check for latest driver release
available and install all updates for the capture software. If you
have the latest versions of the drivers, and all the updated
software,you should consider replacing the capture system, including
the older 1394 adapter.
 
M

M.I.5¾

Thumper said:
I recently got a new mobo and system (see specs below). I added my old
Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card, circa 2001). I
connected my Sony TRV17 MiniDV camcorder into the firewire port.
Windows XP sees the new device and correctly identifies it as a Sony
DV camcorder. This is confirmed in the Device Manager, where the DV
camcorder is listed in the in the Imaging Devices section underneath
my Logitech webcam. So far so good.

When I run AMCap or WinDV to capture the video (I tried both), it
identifies the device in the list of possible capture devices (that
is, it sees my webcam and my MiniDV camcorder).

However, when I change the active device from the drop-down menu from
webcam to camcorder, the status message says "Initializing..." and the
software freezes. When I play the video on my camcorder, no
corresponding image ever appears on the screen. (FWIW, I cannot even
shut down WinDV in the task manager until I turn off the camcorder.)

So, in conclusion, XP says the hardware is ready to use. It correctly
identifies it. But the capture software is having a problem
communicating with the camera.

[Snipped for brevity]

First, XP uses the Texas Instruments driver for 1394 - and is what you
require. I would try a more modern Firewire card (they are not expensive).
There have been several revisions of the Firewire chipsets and the Pinnacle
card uses an older revision 2 that has had some problems with some
motherboard chipsets.

I have a Pinnacle card in my scrap box, and I can tell you that it doesn't
work in my old PC (Windows XP, Athlon XP+ 3200+, VIA chipset). I haven't
tried it in its replacement.
 
T

tueltime

Thumper said:
I recently got a new mobo and system (see specs below). I added my old
Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card, circa 2001). I
connected my Sony TRV17 MiniDV camcorder into the firewire port.
Windows XP sees the new device and correctly identifies it as a Sony
DV camcorder. This is confirmed in the Device Manager, where the DV
camcorder is listed in the in the Imaging Devices section underneath
my Logitech webcam. So far so good.

When I run AMCap or WinDV to capture the video (I tried both), it
identifies the device in the list of possible capture devices (that
is, it sees my webcam and my MiniDV camcorder).

However, when I change the active device from the drop-down menu from
webcam to camcorder, the status message says "Initializing..." and the
software freezes. When I play the video on my camcorder, no
corresponding image ever appears on the screen. (FWIW, I cannot even
shut down WinDV in the task manager until I turn off the camcorder.)

So, in conclusion, XP says the hardware is ready to use. It correctly
identifies it. But the capture software is having a problem
communicating with the camera.

(Btw, I tried connecting the camcorder into each of the two firewire
ports, I restarted the PC between attempts, I refreshed the hardware
device list. I haven't yet tested the camcorder on another computer
yet.)

1. Is there any other capture software you recommend?
2. Could the webcam be messing things up?
3. Is the mobo somehow messing things up?
4. Is there a new MiniDV driver I need to install? I remember years
ago there was something about the MS driver versus the Texas
Instruments driver? Is this somehow related?

MY SOFTWARE
Windows XP, SP2, fully up-to-date with all the updates

MY HARDWARE
* Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 2.00GHz Dual-Core 64-bit Processor, 2x1.0 MB
Cache, 800FSB, s775, Code Named: Allendale, EM64T, Retail Box, Heat
Sink & Fan, BX80557E4400
* ASUS P5B Motherboard, Intel CPU Support: (Core 2 Duo/Quad, Pentium 4/
D, Celeron), Intel P965/ICH8 Chipset, Socket 775, Ultra Quiet - No Fan/
Heatsink Only, 533/800/1066 FSB Support, 4xDIMM (8GB Max), Dual
Channel DDR2-800 (Effective 1.60 GHz), 4xSerial ATA (SATA300), 1xPCI-E
x16, 3xPCI-E x1, 3xPCI (32bit 33Mhz), JMicron JMB363 IDE Controller:
(1xATA133, 1xSATA300 & 1xeSATA300), Realtek PCI-E 10/100/1000
(Gigabit) Network, ADI High Definition 8-channel Audio w/SPDIF, up to
10xUSB 2.0
* Kingston Value RAM (KVR800D2N5/1G), 1.0 GB PC6400 DDR2 (800 MHz), CL
5.0
* Antec EarthWatts 430 (EA430), 430 Watt ATX12V 2.0 Power Supply, 24-
pin Main Power Connector w/ Detachable 4-pin Section, Dual +12V
Outputs (Rails), Intel & AMD Cetified, 1x80mm Fan, 1 x PCI-E & 4 x
SATA Power Connectors
* Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 400 GB Hard Drive (ST3400620AS), Serial
ATA 2.5, SATA300 (3Gb/s), NCQ, ? ms, 7200 RPM, 16 MB Cache, OEM
* Pinnacle Systems GmbH DV 1394 (PCI firewire card)
 
T

tueltime

Thumper can you tell me if you ever got it to work, I am having the same
problem.

I appreciate it
 

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