Cannot have more than 1 active 1394 device

[benoitm]

I'm really scratching my head with this one.....

PC is a DELL Dimension 9200 E6700 with factory-installed IEEE1394b PCI
adapter (Firewire 400) (2 ports at the back, one on the front bay).
I added a few months ago a Belkin "F5U623" Firewire800 PCI adapter with 3
ports.
For the 2 adapters, I use the WinXP Pro SP3 native drivers.
I work with 2 Firewire 400 HDD (Maxtor), one Firewire 800 HDD (LaCie) and a
Canon DV/HDV camcorder.
Only recently I started having trouble getting more than one device active
simultaneously on the first adapter (the one that shipped with the system):
no matter the order (disk or camcorder first) the first device is always
recognized ok, subsequent devices are not recognized by XP, and the system
won't shutdown properly after that (need to "hard" shutdown).
On the Belkin adapter I only had one device connected, the LaCie disk in
FW800 mode, so no problem with this one.
I thought it was a hardware failure of the first adapter and so I purchased
two gender-changer cables and connected all my hard disks (the two fw400 and
the fw800) to the Belkin fw800 adapter.
And here comes the problem: same issue as with the first adapter: impossible
to have more than one device recognized simultaneously on each adapter !!!

Tried de-installing & re-installing the devices in the WinXP dev manager;
Tried installing the unsigned Belkin driver instead for this adapter,
following the procedure outlined on their website: no luck, an error message
stating that the "device cannot start (Code 10)";
Rolled back to the MS drivers & installed the
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951410/en-us hotfix: no luck, no improvement.

What am I missing here ?
Is it impossible to have more than one HDD or camcorder device active on a
multi-port firewire adapter ?????

I can work around using USB2 for the two fw400 disks, connect the camcorder
to 1394 adapter #1 and the LaCie disk to 1394 adapter #2, but USB2 is
significantly slower than fw400 for large file transfer, so I don't want to
continue like this...

Any hints ?

 

[M.I.5¾]

I'm really scratching my head with this one.....

PC is a DELL Dimension 9200 E6700 with factory-installed IEEE1394b PCI
adapter (Firewire 400) (2 ports at the back, one on the front bay).
I added a few months ago a Belkin "F5U623" Firewire800 PCI adapter with 3
ports.
For the 2 adapters, I use the WinXP Pro SP3 native drivers.
I work with 2 Firewire 400 HDD (Maxtor), one Firewire 800 HDD (LaCie) and
a
Canon DV/HDV camcorder.
Only recently I started having trouble getting more than one device active
simultaneously on the first adapter (the one that shipped with the
system):
no matter the order (disk or camcorder first) the first device is always
recognized ok, subsequent devices are not recognized by XP, and the system
won't shutdown properly after that (need to "hard" shutdown).
On the Belkin adapter I only had one device connected, the LaCie disk in
FW800 mode, so no problem with this one.
I thought it was a hardware failure of the first adapter and so I
purchased
two gender-changer cables and connected all my hard disks (the two fw400
and
the fw800) to the Belkin fw800 adapter.
And here comes the problem: same issue as with the first adapter:
impossible
to have more than one device recognized simultaneously on each adapter !!!

Tried de-installing & re-installing the devices in the WinXP dev manager;
Tried installing the unsigned Belkin driver instead for this adapter,
following the procedure outlined on their website: no luck, an error
message
stating that the "device cannot start (Code 10)";
Rolled back to the MS drivers & installed the
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951410/en-us hotfix: no luck, no
improvement.

What am I missing here ?
Is it impossible to have more than one HDD or camcorder device active on a
multi-port firewire adapter ?????

I can work around using USB2 for the two fw400 disks, connect the
camcorder
to 1394 adapter #1 and the LaCie disk to 1394 adapter #2, but USB2 is
significantly slower than fw400 for large file transfer, so I don't want
to
continue like this...

Have you tried a system restore to a point before the firewire started
palying up?

You should be able to run a maximum of 64 devices on one firewire network
including any host (so in your case 128 devices). Note that if you are
using a device that does not run at the full speed of firewire such as a
camcorder (generally only 100 Mbps), then it cannot be daisy chained from a
device that does run at full speed, but must be connected to a different
port on the firewire card.

 

[smlunatick]

I'm really scratching my head with this one.....

PC is a DELL Dimension 9200 E6700 with factory-installed IEEE1394b PCI
adapter (Firewire 400) (2 ports at the back, one on the front bay).
I added a few months ago a Belkin "F5U623" Firewire800 PCI adapter with 3
ports.
For the 2 adapters, I use the WinXP Pro SP3 native drivers.
I work with 2 Firewire 400 HDD (Maxtor), one Firewire 800 HDD (LaCie) anda
Canon DV/HDV camcorder.
Only recently I started having trouble getting more than one device active
simultaneously on the first adapter (the one that shipped with the system):
no matter the order (disk or camcorder first) the first device is always
recognized ok, subsequent devices are not recognized by XP, and the system
won't shutdown properly after that (need to "hard" shutdown).
On the Belkin adapter I only had one device connected, the LaCie disk in
FW800 mode, so no problem with this one.
I thought it was a hardware failure of the first adapter and so I purchased
two gender-changer cables and connected all my hard disks (the two fw400 and
the fw800) to the Belkin fw800 adapter.
And here comes the problem: same issue as with the first adapter: impossible
to have more than one device recognized simultaneously on each adapter !!!

Tried de-installing & re-installing the devices in the WinXP dev manager;
Tried installing the unsigned Belkin driver instead for this adapter,
following the procedure outlined on their website: no luck, an error message
stating that the "device cannot start (Code 10)";
Rolled back to the MS drivers & installed thehttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/951410/en-ushotfix: no luck, no improvement.

What am I missing here ?
Is it impossible to have more than one HDD or camcorder device active on a
multi-port firewire adapter ?????

I can work around using USB2 for the two fw400 disks, connect the camcorder
to 1394 adapter #1 and the LaCie disk to 1394 adapter #2, but USB2 is
significantly slower than fw400 for large file transfer, so I don't want to
continue like this...

Any hints ?

This seems to be a similar problem that can occur with USB ports. The
1394 ports might not provide enough "power" over t he Firewall wires.
You can try a Firewire hub that can provide additional power.