A Little Help - Inserting Pictures

[SomeOne]

I have a Nikon D40 digital camera.

Offload the pictures to a directory on my hard drive.

I am using PowerPoint 2002

When I bring them into PowerPoint the only thing that I get is a Icon with a
Red X. Same thing when I try and bring them into MS Word.

Read where this could be a memory problem, so set the camera where the
pictures are small (350KB) and still have the same problem.

I have Paint Shop Pro. Paintshop Pro will show the original jpgs. Ran the
pictures through a conversion program; however, used the conversion program
to convert from jpg to jpg and just move it to another directory. Set the
compression down to 0. Ran the pictures and some of then actually wound up
slightly larger than the originals; however, they would load into Power
Point. Re-ran the pictures through the conversion program - this time with
a compression setting of 15. Smaller file size; however, pixel size 3008 X
2000 remains the same (originals are the same) along with 72 pixels per
inch. Regardless of setting, following conversion, pictures would load into
Power Point.

Now I load some of the original pictures on to my lap top with PowerPoint
2003 and the pictures load.

It is really a brain burner.

With the exception of setting options (under Tools) have no idea where any
other settings would be.

I construct the slide on the lap top (where everything appears to work) and
when I bring it over to my desk top and open the ppt, the Red X is there.

In addition, the converted pictures, on the desk top appear to be
considerably larger than the default layout, while on the laptop even the
original jpgs are not that much larger than the slide blank layout.

The originals can be viewed with every viewer that I have, including
Microsoft Photo Editor, Paint, Internet Explorer, and Paint Shop.

Appreciate any help

SomeOne In Need

 

[TAJ Simmons]

SomeOne,

pixel size 3008 X 2000 remains the same

If this is for an on-screen presentation - then you really need to get the
pixel count down - to avoid running out of resources/memory in powerpoint.

See
http://www.Awesomebackgrounds.com/powerpointgraphics.htm

Paintshop Pro can quite easily reduce the pixels!

see also

Why are my PowerPoint files so big? What can I do about it?
http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00062.htm

You can safely ignore how BIG a picture 'looks' when you first insert it
into powerpoint. Just resize it using the corner handles to the size you
require.


cheers
TAJ Simmons

awesome - powerpoint backgrounds,
http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com
free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more...

 

[Guest]

Hi

In addition to TAJ's great advice, you may want to have a look at this:
RED X instead of graphics
http://pptfaq.com/FAQ00064.htm

Lucy

 

[SomeOne]

I appreciate the comeback; however, I do believe that some things in my post
were not read. I believe that all statements are inter-twined.

Pictures that are downloaded from my camera will be called originals. That
means that I have not run them through Paintshop or any other photo
processor.

As I stated, the Red X originals only shows up on my desk top (Win XP Pro -
SP1) and that is running .5 gig memory. On that machine rests PowerPoint
2003.

These same originals, when placed on my laptop (Win XP Home - SP2), with .5
Gig memory, show up on the layout as they should. That machine is running
PowerPoint 2003.

When I run them through the Paint Shop batch processor, Paint Shop indicates
that there is no change in the description of the picture.

A PowerPoint slide built on the lap top with originals a good picture, will
show up on the desk top as a Red X. And a Red X slide from the desk top
that is sent to the lap top will display the good picture.

I would find it had to believe that it is a memory problem as the converted
pictures are the same is dimension, pixels, etc. Yet they work on the desk
top. I can only see two ways this problem can happen. The jpg from the
camera (original) is missing or has added something to the jpg that Paint
Shop deletes or restores. Second would be that there is some option that is
not set right on the desk top power point that is turned on/off. The only
options that I see are via the Tools/Options.

Thanks

Some On In Need

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

It seems to me that this boils down to: PPT2002 doesn't like the JPGs your D40
produces. But if you run the JPGs through a conversion program to reduce their
size or compression, all's well, on either 2002 or 2003.

Considering that the native resolution of the images directly from the camera
are really way bigger than you want anyhow, you're going to have to do some
kind of conversion no matter what. I'd put all the photos from the camera into
a folder then use PaintShop or IrfanView (www.irfanview.com, free) to batch
downsample them to lower resolution (say 1024x768) and put them in a different
folder, then insert those into PPT.

Assuming that works, does that cover all bases?

 

[SomeOne]

I do thank you for the comeback.

Problem appears only with PPT 2002. PPT 2003 will take the original photos.
The other strange thing is that if I run them through a conversion program
and really duplicate the setting for the originals (not change anything)
they will work on PPT 2002. I think that there is something that the camera
is either adding or deleting from what is a standard jpg (I have tried all
the setting on the camera and the problem continues, even though the file
size is now 350KB.

I do have a work around as you have described. I just thought that it was
unusual. It will bounce a 1.6MB original but will take a 1.6MB converted
photo. And while I have solved my problem, I am sort of driven to find the
cause (Kind of like Waste Deep In The Big Muddy And The Big Fool Pushes On).

Thank you for the heads up on the Irfan View. Will give that a shot as the
batch in Paint Shop will change the format and reduce the compression.
Picture size remains the save (L X W) so go figure.

Again, thank for the come back. Will give the suggested software a try,

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

I appreciate the comeback; however, I do believe that some things in my post
were not read. I believe that all statements are inter-twined.

It also seems that some of the information in your original post was incorrect
(you mentioned originally that you were using PowerPoint 2002).

Thanks for the more detailed description. The problem may be a matter of video
drivers or it may be that the one PC has more other tasks running (ie, less
memory available to PPT or to the video system) than the other.

My original suggestion still stands, though; high resolution images from the
camera are going to cause troubles of one sort or another, so you're almost
always going to have to convert them one way or the other.

May as well make it part of your normal workflow.

Sure, you could step the camera down to make very small images, but why not let
it shoot the best images it can, then downsample them to the correct resolution
for whatever purpose you have in mind as needed?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

I do thank you for the comeback.

Problem appears only with PPT 2002. PPT 2003 will take the original photos.

Personal opinion: One of the best reasons to buy 2003 was to leave 2002 and
its bugs behind. It's no real surprise that 2003 works better.

The other strange thing is that if I run them through a conversion program
and really duplicate the setting for the originals (not change anything)
they will work on PPT 2002.

Sometimes manufacturers play fast and loose with the specs or add little
features that other software may not be prepared to deal with. Sounds like a
classic case of it we have here. The images coming out of the conversion
program may the same size/color depth etc as the images going in, but
apparently there's something subtle changing. A file compare utility will give
you some hints as to what but w/o learning the JPG format and going at each
file with a byte editor, ya can't figure out what. And even if you do, it
won't change the fact that the originals won't work in 2002.

I think that there is something that the camera
is either adding or deleting from what is a standard jpg (I have tried all
the setting on the camera and the problem continues, even though the file
size is now 350KB.

D'accord. That's about what I'm saying above. I should have read all the way
down here first and saved my fingers some wind ;-)

I do have a work around as you have described. I just thought that it was
unusual. It will bounce a 1.6MB original but will take a 1.6MB converted
photo. And while I have solved my problem, I am sort of driven to find the
cause (Kind of like Waste Deep In The Big Muddy And The Big Fool Pushes On).

I think that was "Waist Deep" but post-Katrina, one can never be too sure.

And I can understand where you're coming from. I'm the guy who'd be digging
around in the files to figure out what's what, if it weren't that the problem
child was 20 "Waste Deep in the Big Buggy" 02.