939 or 754(?) pin CPU.

[Noozer]

Sure, if you buy junk then don't know how to upgrade it.
Otherwise, "probably" be buying a new one has everything to
do with why you needed the upgrade.

Not if you actually know HOW to build a PC... My PC is more than a year old
and hasn't had a single upgrade. Still plays my games and gets my other
tasks done without a hitch. Once I do need a new PC there will be very
little in this box that I'd consider using in the next.

If you have to upgrady your PC less than a year after building it, you made
some mistakes to begin with.

 

[kony]

Not if you actually know HOW to build a PC... My PC is more than a year old
and hasn't had a single upgrade. Still plays my games and gets my other
tasks done without a hitch. Once I do need a new PC there will be very
little in this box that I'd consider using in the next.

Yeah I never understand why someone deliberately tries to
build a system that they expect to be in a landfill in 2
years' time. $100 can often make a difference and a 2 year
old system is relatively easy to sell for $150, if not
useful for one's own secondary system. Who really needs a
high-end box for a backup or generaly purpose/internet-kiosk
type uses?

If you have to upgrady your PC less than a year after building it, you made
some mistakes to begin with.

I agree, though sometimes there is good value when early
adpoters buy the slowest CPU. Early on the slower CPUs may
overclock by a high %, or even if not, are usually quite a
lot cheaper. The $ saved can often buy the 2nd CPU later,
leaving the original for reuse or resale. Bottom line is
that these days, if someone doesn't always be in the top 25%
performance range they can compute for less than half the
cost. THEN there's overclocking- kinda ironic that to be in
the top 1% performance possible in any era you can't just
buy your way in, have to work for it and it still may be
cheaper than the top 25% performance range systems.

These days though, a decent case and PSU will run over $100
for a high-end system, it hardly makes sense to spend $50
for low-quality case & PSU every two years then throw awy
the old junk case & PSU.

 

[pcbutts1]

I am thinking of a new PC but it is 754 pin (appprox I forget)

You forgot?

It is a 754 pin not 939 and I am worried I will struggle to upgrade it
futher, will it take a duel core chip for instance?

It was only two-dimensional.

Or anyone know of a similar product which is 939 pin?

Which is 939 pin? Are your for real?

(AMD not INTEL)

Not everyone is clever; not everyone is smart.

This is the PC (i am in the UK)
&sku=138538&category_oid=-20732&fm=15&sm=3&tm=1.

The thinker.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Not much really as far as processing goes, I was just trying to
future proof my self. I thought my existing computer would
last forever untill they started bringing out ever more bloated and
inefficient applications. I often find when I 'upgrade' an application
it runs several times slower.
I play poker online for money sometimes and it is a real struggle
for it to play two tables at once (which makes it more of a struggle
for me too!! as it takes an age to switch between table, sometimes
being so slow I lose money because the hand has timed out).
(I actually made a profit recently!!)
It might be nice to burn cds in the background at times too.
Also it won't play some video .wmv files as it is too slow which
is a real pain, they seem to be unbelievably slow!!! I am not sure
why.
Also I would like to watch some football matches via my PC
but I will need a faster internet connection for that too (current;ly
300kbs) need 1 or 2 meg.
I am hoping the profits from poker will pay for that, athough probaly
not judging by my perfromance last night!! However results over the
last 3 months suggest it will.
I would not recommend you trying it yourself though, I lost quite a
bit initially but then won it back when I learn't more about the game.

You'll be glad you got a Athlon64 when 64-bit Windows Longhorn fianlly
arrives.

ss.

 

[Random Person]

Agreed, although it appears to be debateable whether Don really needs
the number crunching power of an Athlon 64.

 

[Donald McTrevor]

Not if you actually know HOW to build a PC... My PC is more than a year old
and hasn't had a single upgrade.

You make that sound like something very ususual.
I wouldn't expectanyone to need to upgrade a PC within a year.

Still plays my games and gets my other
tasks done without a hitch.

Wow thats amazing!! Still? After a whole year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!

 

[Donald McTrevor]

Donald McTrevor, <[email protected]>, whose name means "has a greasy face; girl
dressed up as a boy", fudged together:


You forgot?
Yes.


It was only two-dimensional.


Which is 939 pin? Are your for real?

Something with 939 pins (approx)

Not everyone is clever; not everyone is smart.

You don't say.

 

[kony]

You make that sound like something very ususual.
I wouldn't expectanyone to need to upgrade a PC within a year.

It could be unusual in some cases- consider the typical PC
is an OEM that comes far cheaper in it's base version.
Adding many features at time of order will cost
significantly more than buying same or better parts on the
'net later.

 

[CBFalconer]

.... snip ...

You'll be glad you got a Athlon64 when 64-bit Windows Longhorn
fianlly arrives.

Why? Will it avoid the impossible EULA? Will it run Linux
appreciably better?

 

[Donald McTrevor]

It could be unusual in some cases- consider the typical PC
is an OEM that comes far cheaper in it's base version.
Adding many features at time of order will cost
significantly more than buying same or better parts on the
'net later.

Thats not true, it is normally cheaper to 'upgrade' at time of
purchase, a look at any price list shows big disounts on such
upgrades, as opposed to buying the items seperately.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

Why? Will it avoid the impossible EULA? Will it run Linux
appreciably better?

What's Linux got to do with anything?

ss.

 

[CBFalconer]

What's Linux got to do with anything?

About the same as what Windows has to do with anything.

 

[Noozer]

You make that sound like something very ususual.
I wouldn't expectanyone to need to upgrade a PC within a year.

True, but most of these "is this PC OK?" type questions stress upgradability
over usability.

Wow thats amazing!! Still? After a whole year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!

Sarcasm? For a valid statement? I know folks who aren't happy unless they
replace something in their PC every month. I imagine that there are those in
this group that would fall into that category.

No smartass remarks here? I'm disappointed.

 

[Synapse Syndrome]

About the same as what Windows has to do with anything.

What?! You must be insane Mr Falconer!

ss.

 

[Donald McTrevor]

Agreed, although it appears to be debateable whether Don really needs
the number crunching power of an Athlon 64.

Maybe not but a future buyer might find it find it desirable.

Resale value is something to consider.

I used to think my Cryix MII would be more than enough when I bough
it.........

 

[kony]

Why? Will it avoid the impossible EULA? Will it run Linux
appreciably better?

We probably don't even want to consider that Longhorn 64
might have sufficiently higher system overhead that same box
is faster running XP.

 

[kony]

Thats not true, it is normally cheaper to 'upgrade' at time of
purchase, a look at any price list shows big disounts on such
upgrades, as opposed to buying the items seperately.

Absolutely not. It's almost never cheaper. Some options
aren't even available unless you choose the higher-line
system. Instead of trying to make a vague observation, pick
out a specific config. Take Dell for example, after many of
their promos and discounts one can get a basic box for under
$400, with the only cost-effective upgrade being upgrading
from a Celeron to a P4- which is an aside as Dell just
happens to have crazy-low Intel CPU prices, but the courts
are looking into these things now too!

 

[Donald McTrevor]

True, but most of these "is this PC OK?" type questions stress upgradability
over usability.


Sarcasm? For a valid statement? I know folks who aren't happy unless they
replace something in their PC every month. I imagine that there are those in
this group that would fall into that category.

Peobably more out of vanity than anything else I doubt most notice
any percievable differenxr after an upgrade other than an imagined one.

 

[Arnold Schwarz 'E' negger]

I am thinking of a new PC but it is 754 pin (appprox I forget).

It is a 754 pin not 939 and I am worried I will struggle to upgrade
it futher, will it take a duel core chip for instance?

Or anyone know of a similar product which is 939 pin?
(AMD not INTEL).

This is the PC (i am in the UK)

Firstly use www.google.co.uk and type in 939 pin AMD im sure a vast amount
of info and products will come up.

Secondly worrying about whether your upgrade is upgradable is the reason why
idiots continue to use 200mhz Pentium MMX's.

 

[Arnold Schwarz 'E' negger]

I strongly disagree. Even when the socket remains the same there are
generally chipset or motherboard changes to go from a first generation to
a second generation part. For example the motherboards that were current
when the Athlon XP 1600+ was state of the art can't take a part faster
than a 2200+, hardly a worthwhile upgrade.

It isn't now, but then it was.