9/11 ... Two years later

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Gabriele Neukam

On that special day, Bill, ([email protected]) said...
Studies have clearly shown that when humans have sexual intercourse
with camels it releases an enzyme in the human brain which alters the
ability to define right from wrong and thus leads to the root causes
of terrorism.

It has also been known to cause camels to start smoking.

(reminds an advertisment camapaign run years ago, with a large plush
camel involved)

you mean the camel, that once wore a domina's dress? Or of which you had
to make sure, that it will be within reach on the bedside table for
"afterwards"?


Gabriele Neukam

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Roland Stiner

What about Christians who bomb abortion clinics and murder the
physicians? There are all kinds of terrorist wackos.

Only Muslims are suicide bombers, no other religion does that.

Roland
 
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Roland Stiner

True, But the fact remains that as long as there are Arabs, there will
in fact be terrorism. It's their way of life.

Not only Arabs but Muslims (remember the shoe bomber?)

Roland
 
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FromTheRafters

Roland Stiner said:
Not only Arabs but Muslims (remember the shoe bomber?)

I forget, which was Timothy McVeigh an Arab, or a Muslim?
~ Oh - yeah wasn't he an American Catholic Christian turned
agnostic?

I suppose that there are a lot of Arab Muslims in Ireland too,
pretending to be Irish Christians.

Terrorism is terrorism, it knows no boundaries. Statements
such as yours and Bills are just the result of bigotry.
 
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Conor

nk2u@ said:
Not only Arabs but Muslims (remember the shoe bomber?)
Should read:

As long as the U.S continues to impose its will on a society it cannot
understand there will be terrorism.

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Conor

Bigotry works.
True. It gets the rest of the world pissed off at you so the Govt can
justify the defence budget.

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Conor

As long as there are Arabs, there will be terrorism.

Get ****ed. As long as the US tries to impose Americanism on the rest
of the world there'll be terrorism. As long as there's something
someone doesn't agree with that they feel can't be solved by discussion
there'll be terrorism.


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Conor

True, But the fact remains that as long as there are Arabs, there will
in fact be terrorism. It's their way of life.
Actually it isn't but you're a pig ignorant Yank so I wouldn't expect
you to know.

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Conor

nk2u@ said:
Only Muslims are suicide bombers, no other religion does that.
No, they commit mass suicide instead.


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Michael Cecil

Actually it isn't but you're a pig ignorant Yank so I wouldn't expect
you to know.

You sure do get trolled easily.

What makes you think that us Yanks would be so knowledgable about pigs
anyhow?
 
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Conor

You sure do get trolled easily.
Been on the beer last night.
What makes you think that us Yanks would be so knowledgable about pigs
anyhow?
I believe certain parts are very knowledgable but they also are in the
habit of marrying their mothers daughters too.


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Frederic Bonroy

Bill said:
True, But the fact remains that as long as there are Arabs, there will
in fact be terrorism. It's their way of life.

That's an incorrect generalization. You could just as well say that as
long as there are Americans to stir up the shit everywhere in the world,
there will in fact be terrorism. It's their way of life.

That's what you said, applied to America. Flattering, hmm?
 
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Frederic Bonroy

Roland said:
Not only Arabs but Muslims (remember the shoe bomber?)

Muslims indeed seem to tend more strongly to commit acts of terrorism
but if you (or Bill or whoever) think that terrorism is a Muslim-only
phenomenon, then I suggest you surf to your favorite news web site
and search for news reports about terrorism in Spain, Ireland and
France committed by non-Muslim separatists.
 
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cquirke

I forget, which was Timothy McVeigh an Arab, or a Muslim?
I suppose that there are a lot of Arab Muslims in Ireland too,
pretending to be Irish Christians.
Terrorism is terrorism, it knows no boundaries. Statements
such as yours and Bills are just the result of bigotry.

Amen. You can generalize further to "religeous fundamentalists" and
find this appropriately includes the terror of the crusades,
Inquisition, and genocidal invasions of South America.

You can then generalize further to "fundamentalists" and find this
appropriately includes Hitler, Stalin and countless off-radar tribal
massacres through the ages.

As an aside: It speaks volumes on US cultural blindness that the brand
name "Crusade Against Terror" was not only coined, but perculated
through all the think-tank and spin-doctor layers to the point that
Bush used the phrase publically while attempting to rally supprt from
former Gulf War Arab allies - whose perspective on the word "crusade"
was understandably different and counter-productive to the cause.


Everyone can experience directly that they are special, unique,
different to everything else that is not within the body. It's the
inherent nature of our consciousness.

Most of us learn as children that other humans are like us, and
perceive themselves similarly special in the same way as we experience
ourselves as special. From birth, we know that to bite hard on a
finger becomes a *special* experience when it's out own finger, and
all a child needs to hear to join the dots from there is: "How would
you like it if someone did that to you?"

The difficulty in raising kids (assuming they aren't already damaged
by their environment before you start trying) isn't in establishing a
sense of justice; it's preserving that sense while you teach them all
the exceptions - that it's OK to shoot ppl if it's your duty as a
security guard, that what we watch as "entertainment" makes sense even
though it's so at odds with what we do in real life, etc.

Most self-inflicted large-scale human suffering is driven by ideology,
and the "Poland Line" is crossed when the perps believe their ideology
to be so fundamental as to undercut a sense of common humanity. That
happens when one falls into the "PLU" (People Like Us) syndrome, such
that human rights become only selectively applicable.


Or maybe you want a tighter definition of "terrorism" that doesn't
include warfare and violence in general? When the powerful exert
power, that's governance or conquest; when the powerless unexpectedly
play the same game any way they can, call that terrorism.

OK; if you define "terrorism" as military-grade violence conducted for
ploitical ends outside of an established political framework, then the
WW2 French Resistance an early model of modern terrorism. After all,
had not the democratically elected French govt surrendered to the
occupying German forces, establishing them as the legitimate govt?


To rail against human nature is to rail against the darker aspects of
human nature. As humans, we are all on shaky ground there.

For example; how many 3rd-world AIDS deaths result from the artificial
witholding of access to retrovirals, done to preserve the pecunary
interests of the ethical drug companies? Once you drop your own
fundamentalism from your eyes, things get terrifyingly clearer.


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Roland Stiner

I forget, which was Timothy McVeigh an Arab, or a Muslim?
~ Oh - yeah wasn't he an American Catholic Christian turned
agnostic?

He was not a suicide bomber, only Muslims are suicide bombers.
 

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