Why Vista is great - and people need to stop looking for things...

[Mike]

Funny how some of us don't have any problems with Vista but others do? Do
we know something they don't? No problems here with Vista Business or any
programs that I'm using with it.

 

[Carl G]

My Vista Home Premium does work good , other then that ungodly security
prompts all the time .(which I turned off)
My only real complaint is with the CD , DVD drives , not leting me stage
files on them before burning them and the darn trays always opening when I
click on them.
No other problems.

 

[Tom]

My Vista Home Premium does work good , other then that ungodly security
prompts all the time .(which I turned off)
My only real complaint is with the CD , DVD drives , not leting me stage
files on them before burning them and the darn trays always opening when
I click on them.
No other problems.

UAC can get slightly annoying! Although i have come across TweakUAC
which allows you to leave UAC on but tone down the prompts.

Do a google for TweakUAC.

Regards

Tom

 

[Dave Cox]

Funny how some of us don't have any problems with Vista but others
do? Do we know something they don't? No problems here with Vista
Business or any programs that I'm using with it.

I'm not saying Vista or XP is perfect...but I've seen far to many
times where people call me to come over and help with their system
saying " I swear this Microsoft is just crap" only to find out 98%
of it was user error.

I also think that 98% of what we hear in this room are from people
who did not take the time to research the compatablitly issues of the
hardware and software they had prior to upgrading to Vista.

I for one had went to each vendor of the hardware I use in my system
and downloaded all the latest drivers I could find. That left me
knowing exactly which pieces I might have issues with....I knew that
my HP scan jet 5470c was not supported even prior to upgrading. I
also determined what software I desired to keep and went to the
appropiate sites and checked to see if there were Vista updates and
downloaded them prior to upgrading. I also took advantage of the
upgrade compatablity test Microsoft almost forces down our throats
before upgrading.

I downloaded and ran office 2007 on XP to see if I liked it........as
I knew that my Office 2000 was not supported in Vista. I prepared my
self for the transition to Vista.

Now that leaves about 2% in here that have valid issues with Vista
and Vista certified machines. for those........I hope we all can help
you with your troubles if you can not get proper technical support
from the vendors.

And a note to the MAC and Linux crowd who feel compelled to troll in
here and bash Vista......don't you think your time would be spent
more productively in your systems user groups helping your fellow OS
users? Yea yea I know we are all human and it's easier to be an
a**hole then it is to be helpful to your fellow human. Just my
opinion but your not doing anything but making yourself look like a
moron.

 

[Dave Cox]

I'm not saying Vista or XP is perfect...but I've seen far to many
times where people call me to come over and help with their system
saying " I swear this Microsoft is just crap" only to find out
98% of it was user error.

I also think that 98% of what we hear in this room are from people
who did not take the time to research the compatablitly issues of
the hardware and software they had prior to upgrading to Vista.

I for one had went to each vendor of the hardware I use in my
system and downloaded all the latest drivers I could find. That
left me knowing exactly which pieces I might have issues with....I
knew that my HP scan jet 5470c was not supported even prior to
upgrading. I also determined what software I desired to keep and
went to the appropiate sites and checked to see if there were
Vista updates and downloaded them prior to upgrading. I also
took advantage of the upgrade compatablity test Microsoft almost
forces down our throats before upgrading.

I downloaded and ran office 2007 on XP to see if I liked
it........as I knew that my Office 2000 was not supported in
Vista. I prepared my self for the transition to Vista.

Now that leaves about 2% in here that have valid issues with Vista
and Vista certified machines. for those........I hope we all can
help you with your troubles if you can not get proper technical
support from the vendors.

And a note to the MAC and Linux crowd who feel compelled to troll
in here and bash Vista......don't you think your time would be
spent more productively in your systems user groups helping your
fellow OS users? Yea yea I know we are all human and it's
easier to be an a**hole then it is to be helpful to your fellow
human. Just my opinion but your not doing anything but making
yourself look like a moron.

I forgot to add......I highly recommend you choose to do a clean
install of Vista when you upgrade..sure reinstalling software will
take some time upfront, but in the long run you will be far better
off. I have never just upgraded over an older OS and it has saved me
many a headache.

 

[Adam Albright]

Funny how some of us don't have any problems with Vista but others do?

Not funny, but a sure sign of your lack of experience. How successful
anybody is with installing Vista DEPENDS on what hardware they have,
if or not said hardware has up today drivers and also what software
you use plus many intanagible things like what BIOS, if or not the
current version supports all the new VISTA drivers and even things
like the release version of the motherboard or some added external
cards. The point being there are LOTS of variables. So for anybody to
make fun of people having problems only reflects negatively on the
Bozos poking fun since it is THEY that seem the most ignorant.

There is no one answer fits all. So people that whine Vista is crap
AND people that whine oh I can do it, why couldn't you, I put in the
same CLUELESS camp. Sorry, the truth is the truth.

Do we know something they don't?

No problems here with Vista Business or any
programs that I'm using with it.

So consider yourself lucky and stop whining about people that DO have
problems. Millions of users, just playing the odds, many WAY MORE
experienced than you, DO HAVE PROBLEMS. That doesn't make you smarter
then them, in fact it makes YOU look dumber since you obviously don't
understand the realities of what's involved in replacing/updating a
operating system.

Now that I told you, we can only hope you wise up.

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Funny how some of us don't have any problems with Vista but others do?
Do we know something they don't? No problems here with Vista Business
or any programs that I'm using with it.

It's because different posters have different hardware, different
software, and not everything plays nice with vista.

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[Dave Cox]

It's because different posters have different hardware, different
software, and not everything plays nice with vista.

That is why one has to do some basic research before they attempt to
upgrade to Vista (or any OS)....the majority of people who are having
issues are the one who have not taken the time to see if their
hardware or software is compatable with Vista even prior to
installing. If they would have taken the time prior to upgrading they
woudld have found out that it might be best NOT to upgrade at this
point in time. As I said in prior posts.....There will always be
exceptions but for the most part it just boils down to a person being
to lazy in research before upgrading. Then they complain and yell at
Microsoft or anyone who tries to tell them they messed up.

I really like the guy who is complaining he spent 200 bucks on Vista
wanting a "Fully working Version" Knowing damn well Microsoft admitted
to knowing about flaws prior to shipping.

 

[Justin]

That is why one has to do some basic research before they attempt to
upgrade to Vista (or any OS)....the majority of people who are having
issues are the one who have not taken the time to see if their
hardware or software is compatable with Vista even prior to
installing. If they would have taken the time prior to upgrading they
woudld have found out that it might be best NOT to upgrade at this
point in time. As I said in prior posts.....There will always be
exceptions but for the most part it just boils down to a person being
to lazy in research before upgrading. Then they complain and yell at
Microsoft or anyone who tries to tell them they messed up.

I really like the guy who is complaining he spent 200 bucks on Vista
wanting a "Fully working Version" Knowing damn well Microsoft admitted
to knowing about flaws prior to shipping.

I'm glad MS is finally recognizing the fact that the Vista Upgrade Advisor
"can be" misleading to those that are not in the know. VUA v2.0 will enter
beta soon! However I find it odd that it'll enter beta right around the
time drivers will just about become strong enough for the average consumer.
Hum....

Heck, we are now starting to get decent Bluetooth drivers! No more having
to worry about installing a whole new stack for Broadcom chipsets.

 

[Mike]

I'm not saying I'm smarter than anyone. I'm just saying that if I don't
have any problem with Vista I don't understand people who do. If you do
what Microsoft says and your system is compatible with Vista then you should
not have major problems. I think most of the problems are user oriented.
Instead of looking for solutions they just write in and complain about
Windows. Maybe the programs they are trying to use are to blame???

 

[Charlie Wilkes]

Heaven forbid that Microsoft should lose out on a sale.

Charlie

 

[ArameFarpado]

Man... you've came right out of a comic book... you're stupidity is
out-fashion.

 

[ArameFarpado]

Em Quarta, 11 de Abril de 2007 21:12, ArameFarpado escreveu:

Man... you've came right out of a comic book... you're stupidity is
out-fashion.

Ups... sorry ed, my reply was for that guy "Cody".

 

[Adam Albright]

That is why one has to do some basic research before they attempt to
upgrade to Vista (or any OS)....the majority of people who are having
issues are the one who have not taken the time to see if their
hardware or software is compatable with Vista even prior to
installing.

Hello... Go to the Gigabyte web site, look at the pretty Vista
certified logo on the motherboard I bought that claims the MB under
went extensive testing by Microsoft and it passed and "works fine"
under Vista. Oops, then tell why me the SATA drives don't work right
in spite of my installing the latest BIOS, the latest chipset
upgrades, the latest "Vista Ready" drivers and adjusting the BIOS as
needed. I'll wait for your answer.

If they would have taken the time prior to upgrading they
woudld have found out that it might be best NOT to upgrade at this
point in time. As I said in prior posts.....There will always be
exceptions but for the most part it just boils down to a person being
to lazy in research before upgrading. Then they complain and yell at
Microsoft or anyone who tries to tell them they messed up.

So you've been brainwashed to believe. If I do the research and limit
what I buy to "certified for Vista" and "ready for Vista" or "works
with Vista" and I still have problems, how is it my fault? I guess I
should remember corporations lie all the time and what they tell us is
often more marketing hype then fact.

I really like the guy who is complaining he spent 200 bucks on Vista
wanting a "Fully working Version" Knowing damn well Microsoft admitted
to knowing about flaws prior to shipping.

I keep expecting to find people posting to this newsgroup that can
make intelligent arguments. No luck for the most part, by I keep
looking. Know anybody?

 

[Nina DiBoy]

That is why one has to do some basic research before they attempt to
upgrade to Vista (or any OS)....the majority of people who are having
issues are the one who have not taken the time to see if their
hardware or software is compatable with Vista even prior to
installing. If they would have taken the time prior to upgrading they
woudld have found out that it might be best NOT to upgrade at this
point in time. As I said in prior posts.....There will always be
exceptions but for the most part it just boils down to a person being
to lazy in research before upgrading. Then they complain and yell at
Microsoft or anyone who tries to tell them they messed up.

I really like the guy who is complaining he spent 200 bucks on Vista
wanting a "Fully working Version" Knowing damn well Microsoft admitted
to knowing about flaws prior to shipping.

Research - you mean like the Vista upgrade advisor? It gives
misinformation. I used it to check my hardware, and it missed the fact
that my nic and the chipset on my motherboard are either not vista
compatible, or do not have drivers for vista.

Or maybe you mean to look and see if your hardware has the windows logo
on it? Too bad it's no longer worth it's guarantee.

Is that the kind of research you were talking about?

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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"poor little MADAM albright still got your knickers twisted. how are we
supposed to believe you know anything about computers when you cannot
even dress your self. oh and pull that skirt down."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Joey DoWop Dee]

That is why one has to do some basic research before they attempt to
upgrade to Vista (or any OS)....the majority of people who are having
issues are the one who have not taken the time to see if their
hardware or software is compatable with Vista even prior to
installing.

Maybe they are the majority, but every single home-user client of mine who
has bought a new Dell with Vista preinstalled (no option for XP) has had
major problems, mostly after an automatically downloaded Vista update.

These are not technical people; they are home users who in good faith bought
computers from a reputable dealer and who had every right to expect that
Vista would work on their machines. I don't blame Dell: the computers worked
fine until the Vista upgrades.

 

[Dave Cox]

Hello... Go to the Gigabyte web site, look at the pretty Vista
certified logo on the motherboard I bought that claims the MB
under went extensive testing by Microsoft and it passed and "works
fine" under Vista. Oops, then tell why me the SATA drives don't
work right in spite of my installing the latest BIOS, the latest
chipset upgrades, the latest "Vista Ready" drivers and adjusting
the BIOS as needed. I'll wait for your answer.


So you've been brainwashed to believe. If I do the research and
limit what I buy to "certified for Vista" and "ready for Vista"
or "works with Vista" and I still have problems, how is it my
fault? I guess I should remember corporations lie all the time and
what they tell us is often more marketing hype then fact.

I keep expecting to find people posting to this newsgroup that can
make intelligent arguments. No luck for the most part, by I keep
looking. Know anybody?

what part of there will always be exceptions didn't you understand?

Did you thoroughly read reviews of Gigabyte products did you talk
with other gigabyte users have you used gigabyte products in the
past? Have you contacted gigabyte about this issue? but any mobo
failure is most definately not Microsofts fault. Unless maybe you
dropped the Vista plastic case on the MOBO and cracked it prior to
installation.

enough of you case closed.

 

[Adam Albright]

what part of there will always be exceptions didn't you understand?

What part of consumer law that producers of products have a legal
responsibility to do what they claim don't you understand? You need to
get it out of your head that companies that develop software are
entitled to some special exclusions or some half-ass excuses, like all
software is buggy or oh, thanks for telling us about those bugs, maybe
we'll fix them later to wiggle out of their obligations. THEY ARE NOT
SPECIAL under the law.

Did you thoroughly read reviews of Gigabyte products did you talk
with other gigabyte users have you used gigabyte products in the
past? Have you contacted gigabyte about this issue? but any mobo
failure is most definately not Microsofts fault. Unless maybe you
dropped the Vista plastic case on the MOBO and cracked it prior to
installation.

enough of you case closed.

OK already, I'll stop pounding you over the head with facts. If you
want to pretend you won the argument, please pretend.

 

[Dave Cox]

Research - you mean like the Vista upgrade advisor? It gives
misinformation. I used it to check my hardware, and it missed the
fact that my nic and the chipset on my motherboard are either not
vista compatible, or do not have drivers for vista.

Did you go to your MOBO's web site and check for issues with your
particular product before upgrading? did you read any FAQ's that may
be out there on your products? Did you read reviews of how your MOBO
performed under Vista? etc etc etc.

Did you even read my prior posts?

VUA is just a simple starting point and you can't always rely on a
logo. You must make an effort and research each and every piece of
equipment in your system prior or upgrading. Or just wait for a
flawless OS to be released and hardware manufactures to make solid
drivers for everything they make.

People will have issues as I said there is always an exception....but
the more you research the less chance for an issue to arise.

If you can't find any information on any hardware that is in your
system.....then don't upgrade! simple

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Did you go to your MOBO's web site and check for issues with your
particular product before upgrading? did you read any FAQ's that may
be out there on your products? Did you read reviews of how your MOBO
performed under Vista? etc etc etc.

Yes. There was no information regarding vista compatibility on the MOBO
website as it was produced and sold about 2 years before Vista was
released. It happens to be using a generic chipset driver from vista
(I'm assuming) because it's working fine, but I can't use the onboard
sound or gigabit ethernet, I had to add cards to get those functions to
work.

There were drivers for my network card, however they did not work.

Did you even read my prior posts?

No, I have not been following this thread really, but the post of yours
I first responded to caught my attention, henceforth my reply.

VUA is just a simple starting point and you can't always rely on a
logo. You must make an effort and research each and every piece of
equipment in your system prior or upgrading. Or just wait for a
flawless OS to be released and hardware manufactures to make solid
drivers for everything they make.

The "UA" for XP did a much better job IME.

People will have issues as I said there is always an exception....but
the more you research the less chance for an issue to arise.

If you can't find any information on any hardware that is in your
system.....then don't upgrade! simple

I knew what I was doing was a bit of an experiment. My point is that
even people who research get bit in the butt sometimes because Vista,
and the info out there on Vista are both far from perfect.

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even dress your self. oh and pull that skirt down."

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