R
Roger Hunt
Yeah!omega said:
V
Vic Dura
I don't have a problem with someone pointing out that a particular
freeware is also spyware; but I do object to someone saying that a
particular freeware is spyware and therefor shouldn't be mentioned
here. As long as it's free and legal, give people the information to
make a decision and let them decide.
No sir, you misunderstand my position. "Free and legal" with full
disclosure is and has always been my only criteria for acceptability.
I think that's fairly simple, straight foward and without hair
splitting. I have never advocated piracy or warez. Is that acceptable
in your opinion? If not, would you kindly elaborate.
D
Dewey Edwards
Vic, please name ONE spyware program that positive information could
be given.
M
Mel
Only a dumbas* would recommend free(spy)ware or want it recommended
here!
http://www.flounderz.com/HOWTO.html
?
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=
Jo did provide exactly that type of information, in Jo's only post
in this branch of the thread. Yet it was called pouncing and
policing and eventually the "moderator wannabe" tag was applied in
this branch.
Sorry, I meant to type "wares", not "warez". It was indeed my
understanding that you want the type of ware being recommended to be
made clear, and you confirmed that in the first para above.
Of course, "free and legal" is not a phrase that describes spyware;
the only way around splitting the hairs is to ignore them. I'm
sorry you find the posts which discourage recommendation of spyware
objectionable, but I'm sure you support our right to make those
posts in this unmoderated newsgroup.
J
Joe Silver
John said:
<sigh>
J
Joe Silver
John said:
The original poster in this thread mentioned nothing about already
either having or not having either MS Windows or MS Publisher.
Perhaps you should start your own newsgroup to meet your own narrow
definition of what sort of posts you deem acceptable:
alt.comp.free.executables.that.may.or.may.not.be.specifically.for.use.
with.a.commercial.operating.system.but.cannot.be.dependent.on.having.any.
other.commercial.programs.on.one's.computer.except.for.the.operating.
system.
S
Semolina Pilchard
Please, everyone, stand back and let Mr. Silver have the last word.
It's clearly a matter of life and death to him. It isn't about
freeware, it's about being right.
I would hate to think that we would be responsible for Mr. Silver's
neuroses becoming a fully-fledged psychosis. Surely, so near the
season of goodwill to all men, we can find it in our hearts to let Mr.
Silver win.
Yes, Joe, it's freeware. There, there. Don't upset yourself.
J
Joe Silver
Semolina said:
You've got it wrong, I'm afraid. If anyone here is concerned about being
right and having the last word, it's John Fitzsimmons. The original
poster has the information he or she wanted, and retreated from this
thread days ago. It is Mr. Fitzsimmons who hangs on, doling out
sarcastic bon mots and imposing his vision on this newsgroup. If
"everyone" is to indulge someone in the interest of putting this thread
to rest once and for all, it is John Fitzsimmons.
O
omega
B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson said:
Thanks, perfect! The GNU Grep does exactly what I want!
grep.exe -F -B2 -A0 "[DETECTION]" antivir.log >antivir.new
:: -F --fixed-strings PATTERN a set of newline-separated strings
:: Context control:
:: -B, --before-context=NUM print NUM lines of leading context
:: -A, --after-context=NUM print NUM lines of trailing context
:: -C, --context[=NUM] print NUM (default 2) lines of output context
:: unless overridden by -A or -B
Btw, on subject of my immediate use:
My Antivir logs had been unreadable to where I fall asleep before really
reading much. Making my scans then sort of pointless, since I have it take
zero action and merely write to file the items that attract its interest.
The GNU Grep magic gives me a consolidated report instead. Eliminating
all of Antivir's distracting chatter.
Next step, further refinement, that I might take will to be to look into
some sort of DIFF (file2-file1=new) strategy. To reduce the amount of
rereading I have to do on its huge number of false-positives (which result
esp with using its heuristic & related options).
This looks to be the best GNU Grep, in that it's current, and too, don't
have to be concerned with dependency on special dlls.
< begin meandering rambling (all caff'd up) >
I did have also stored on my disk an older port, from
<http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/grep.html>.
As well, had the one that comes from <http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net>.
Needs the special dlls. (The site's a great treasure trove though: lots
to download, lots of docs.)
Finally, another that again wants special dlls. It's from the "Cygwin on
a Floppy" package. Not sure home for that -- and quick web lookup makes me
wonder if the project has been basically abandoned? Took visit to the Cygwin
home page, and most of what I could spot was a single door -- into some long
labyrinth of installer hassle. No fast standalone downloads.
I'd done a search on my disk for programs with Grep or a variation of that
as their filenames. (I have a lot of unexamined cmd utils sitting around.)
Differently from the GNU Greps, the others that I had didn't do the neat
trick with the context lines.
The one exception in my local search was a program named f_grep. But it has
far less options, also didn't perform quite how I wanted for my purpose here
(output of file path and line numbers seems automatic and not optional).
I did puzzle over its identity. It says: "f_grep (Win32) version 2.70 (c)
Copyright IBM Corp. 1996-2002." Puzzlement since I don't tend to identify
IBM as being much involved in producing freeware. (?)
The way I got hold of this program was by downloading and running the DOS
file manager named F (fwin32.exe) from <http://filemanager.free.fr>. The
f_grep.exe sort of spontaneously leaps from its pouch when that is launched.
(It might be that some developer involved there worked for IBM, perhaps that
would be an angle of theory to sort of explain the IBM (c) for f_grep?)
< /end meandering rambling >
Anyway. Thanks again, BeAR, for giving me the answer. I was not conscious
GNU Grep provided the context lines feature, fully customizable, to meet
my need exactly.
J
jo
Joe said:
I see 81 posts in this thread.
25 from you, 10 from John.
Does this not tell you something?
J
jo
Semolina said:
Oooops
M
Mike Mills
Maybe you could try Minitrue. I use it regularly, but not for your
purpose.
It should be available from:
http://www.tinyapps.org/
The documentation is many times larger than the program itself, and
with good reason. It *is* a tiny app.
J
Joe Silver
jo said:
Yes. It tells us that John Fitzsimons (sorry I misspelled his name in my
earlier post) was addressing primarily *my* posts, whereas *I* was
responding not only to John Fitzsimons' posts, but those of others.
If you're implying that the number of posts from a particular individual
conveys any useful information at all, let alone has some sort of
correlation, either positive or negative, with the validity of that
individual's argument...well, sorry, but I think most people here would
have trouble following your logic.
J
jo
Joe said:
Most of your 'responding to others' posts have been arguing your
position against those who have been patiently but unsuccessfully
attempting to provide you with 'clue'.
Me? I admire John's stamina, but I am sure you will outlast him.
D
Dewey Edwards
In this thread probably. In this newsgroup Joe won't.
R
Roger Johansson
Mike Mills said:
No, but here:
http://www.idiotsdelight.net/minitrue/
It is a great program for working with all kinds of files.
Most other utilities are line-oriented and work only with text files.
V
Vic Dura
Yes, I would say that it's a good idea if the ware is anything other
than "pure" freeware to mention whatever qualifications apply.
Of course, "free and legal" is not a phrase that describes spyware;
the only way around splitting the hairs is to ignore them. I'm
sorry you find the posts which discourage recommendation of spyware
objectionable, but I'm sure you support our right to make those
posts in this unmoderated newsgroup.
Yes, of course I support your right to make those posts. I believe we
all learn from reading opinions that we disagree with.
V
Vic Dura
I.E. ? A lot of people seem to like it, but I only use it when I
absolutely must. Then I immediately run Ad-aware which cleans out a
bunch of junk that wasn't there before running I.E.
J
Joe Silver
Dewey said:
Oh - is this some sort of threat, Dewey? Are you going to have me
expelled because you disagree with my opinions?