printing ticket

[Joe Silver]

Also, a sure fire way to avoid criticism for posting non freeware
solutions is not to make them.

Shouldn't be hard for you to understand if you try hard.

The original poster has expressed his or her satisfaction with the
solution that was suggested.

Shouldn't be hard for you to understand if you try hard.

 

[Joe Silver]

I agree with you. Recommend freeware and everyone should be happy.
No need to recommend solutions that require one to purchase a
commercial program first.

As I've noted elsewhere, the original poster seems happy.

 

[Joe Silver]

In your mind perhaps. Many others here aren't having the comprehension
problems that you are having.

Perhaps "many others" (i.e., you) haven't carefully read my posts, or
those of Vic Dura. Or that of the original poster, who expressed
satisfaction with the suggested solution.

You really do think this is the alt.help newsgroup don't you ?

No, I really don't.

Try
reading the name of the group a few (hundred ?) more times. Then
you should "get it".

Sounds like a waste of valuable time to me - akin to, say, trying to
moderate this newsgroup.

 

[Joe Silver]

On 16 Dec 2004 07:02:21 -0800, (e-mail address removed) wrote:




< snip >

One has to purchase Publisher to use it. So it isn't "free". There
is a cost involved.

There is a cost involved in *all* software. It's simply a matter of degree.

If someone happens to have MS Publisher on his computer already, and
needs a way to print tickets, one can use the *free* - let me repeat
that: *free* - templates for that purpose. If, on the other hand, one
doesn't already have MS Publisher, than there would be an additional
cost involved - just as if, say, one needed to purchase MS Windows in
order to run a particular program.

 

[Joe Silver]

What makes you think Key generators are illegal?

tim

They are not illegal in and of themselves. I admit that I submitted this
post rather hastily, and should perhaps have expressed myself more
carefully: Keygens are used for illegal activity - that is, stealing
software. I assume that those who read this newsgroup are not interested
in such activity. Otherwise, virtually all commercial software could be
classified as "free." But then again, jo knew this when submitting
his/her "Keygens are free" post, and was being deliberately obtuse.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Sounds like a waste of valuable time to me - akin to, say, trying
to moderate this newsgroup.

I take it you are referring to your attempt to moderate Jo's initial
post in the thread.

 

[Joe Silver]

I take it you are referring to your attempt to moderate Jo's initial
post in the thread.

Sure. Whatever you say. If that's the way you want to interpret it,
fine. Let's drop it.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Sure. Whatever you say. If that's the way you want to interpret
it, fine.

Sorry, I couldn't help pointing out the hypocrisy of you pretending
that /other/ people are trying to moderate a.c.f any more than you
are, even as you raise objections to the articles you don't think
should be posted.

It's not a moderated group, no one is trying to moderate it, and
slinging the "moderater wannabe" stuff around is as disengenuous as
it ever was.

Just to be clear, I don't think you're trying to moderate. But I
don't expect you to quit clinging to the notion that other people
are trying to.

Let's drop it.

Sure. Whatever you say.

 

[Vic Dura]

Coming from someone who tried unsuccessfully to split the hairs a
year ago, that looks a lot like sour grapes.

Splitting hairs?

IMO freeware is software that you legally don't have to pay money for.
I don't see any hair splitting there. Honestly.

 

[KeithS]

Hello
Do you know a free software to print ticket or coupon for lottery with
serial number ?
Thanks

Ye Gods and little fishes! If one hundredth of the effort expended in
this thread had gone into meeting the OP's request, he, as well as I(who
had a similar need) would have been ecstatic by now.
Let it drop guys, it's repetitive and, frankly, boring.
KeithS

 

[joesilver]

Ye Gods and little fishes! If one hundredth of the effort expended in

this thread had gone into meeting the OP's request, he, as well as I(who
had a similar need) would have been ecstatic by now.
Let it drop guys, it's repetitive and, frankly, boring.
KeithS

As has been noted elsewhere, the original poster has expressed his or
her appreciation for bob-au's suggested solution.

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

Splitting hairs?

IMO freeware is software that you legally don't have to pay money
for.

That's not the definition you proposed last year; it had some stuff
in it about EULAs.

I don't see any hair splitting there. Honestly.

I suppose if I said the notion of freeware you just posted above
clearly includes spyware, you'd call that hair-splitting. So I
won't.

 

[joesilver]

Everyone understands your original post. You want people to purchase

Publisher to get a "free" solution. No thanks. I prefer to stick with
freeware. That doesn't require me to purchase something else first.

You seem to be under the impression that it was I who initially
recommended the templates. This impression could be corrected by more
careful reading on your part.

As I've already stated elsewhere, as far as I'm concerned, if someone
already happens to have Microsoft Publisher, they can obtain these
templates for free. Free, as in "freeware." The original poster
expressed appreciation for the suggestion (again, not my suggestion),
so perhaps he or she already has Microsoft Publisher. I personally
couldn't care less whether or not you or anyone else buys Microsoft
Publisher.

 

[John Fitzsimons]

John Fitzsimons wrote:

There is a cost involved in *all* software. It's simply a matter of degree.

Most freeware here has no purchase cost.

If someone happens to have MS Publisher on his computer already, and
needs a way to print tickets, one can use the *free* - let me repeat
that: *free* - templates for that purpose. If, on the other hand, one
doesn't already have MS Publisher, than there would be an additional
cost involved -

At last. You are slowly understanding that the recommendation required
a purchase price for people without MS Publisher. Almost certainly the
majority of people here.

just as if, say, one needed to purchase MS Windows in
order to run a particular program.

No, they don't. If they didn't already have Windows then they wouldn't
be looking for windows freeware. Non windows freeware is recommended
here too.

 

[John Fitzsimons]

John Fitzsimons wrote:

The original poster has expressed his or her satisfaction with the
solution that was suggested.

Shouldn't be hard for you to understand if you try hard.

No problem understanding that some people are happy with non freeware
solutions. They still remain inappropriate in a freeware newsgroup
though.

 

[John Fitzsimons]

John Fitzsimons wrote:

As I've noted elsewhere, the original poster seems happy.

Still don't "get it" do you ? This isn't the alt.happy newsgroup. It
is for freeware. Looks like you still haven't read the name of the
newsgroup enough times.

 

[Vic Dura]

That's not the definition you proposed last year; it had some stuff
in it about EULAs.

I don't recall that and don't think it was me as I very seldom refer
to the EULA other than to agree that use of software should be in
accordance with the EULA. Anything more than that is too legalistic
for me.

I suppose if I said the notion of freeware you just posted above
clearly includes spyware, you'd call that hair-splitting. So I
won't.

Well, I personally think spyware is hideous and wouldn't knowingly
reccomend it or use it. Others may feel differently. If a user has a
need for a program, and spyware is their only free solution and they
know it's spyware and don't mind using it; I don't see the problem. If
they don't mind using it, why should I object to them using it?

 

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=]

I don't recall that and don't think it was me as I very seldom
refer to the EULA other than to agree that use of software should
be in accordance with the EULA. Anything more than that is too
legalistic for me.

It was you. Google has it, in case it's not still in your 'sent'
folder. You made compliance with the EULA part of your proposed
definition of freeware.

Well, I personally think spyware is hideous and wouldn't knowingly
reccomend it or use it. Others may feel differently. If a user has
a need for a program, and spyware is their only free solution and
they know it's spyware and don't mind using it; I don't see the
problem. If they don't mind using it, why should I object to them
using it?

I didn't imply that you should object to them using it; that's
pretty far beside the point.

But if someone points out that a recommendation made here is
actually spyware, and then the person who recommended it throws a
fit complaining that there's pouncing or moderation or somesuch
going on, you later chime in to agree. You seem to agree that warez
types should be mentioned, so that users can make decisions about
whether to use apps recommended; but when that info is posted by
anyone other than the recommender, it inevitably leads to you
posting about the imagined "moderator wannabes" or "control freaks".

 

[Roger Hunt]

OK; maybe "pouncing" isn't quite the right word. How about "policing"?

How about "flouncing"?

 

[omega]

(e-mail address removed) writes
How about "flouncing"?

I'm getting an image involving the attire for men in Shakespearean plays.
The tights, and then, what are those little bloomer type shorts called?
For he who would flounce, I think that'd be the sporting way to dress for
the occasion.