My god some people are slow.

[Chad Harris]

What was the implication of "premier truck driver"? Stop the trucks and you
ain't seein' no Vista or a panopoly of other software and toys you like.
What was the connotation of premier with truck driver. There are six
bridges in the US and if you were to take them out you could instantly
paralyze commerce and much of that commerce would travel by 18 wheeler.

The kid could have grown up to be a thoracic surgeon named Bill Frist on the
floor of your Senate as the Majority Leader pissing away time on "gay
marriage"and "flag burning" when embryonic stem cell funding consideration
could have kept idiots like Frist from opening chests on mediastinal tumors
that they can't fix and embryonic stem cells could.

The lust to run for President and Win will really whore you out.

Just wondered what the connotation was with "premier truck driver", politely
telling people they're stupid and your assessment in the second grade that
the kid was "stupid" whatever the word means.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

I think that MSKB was the sequel to this one:

http://24.196.144.100:82/KB/

CH

 

[Kerry Brown]

You need to be more subtle. In reference to the original post you could
merely ask another question such as "I'm trying to write my burn CD key but
it doesn't seem to be working. Does the CD need to be of the flammable
variety?". If the person is stupid they will probably be confused and ignore
you while most people would realise you were having a jest at their expense.
If they weren't stupid they may take offence that you pointed out that their
post didn't make sense but then if they weren't stupid they were trolling so
any rudeness is excused.

 

[Kerry Brown]

While we're on the topic - I think you posted your reply to the wrong
person. I didn't write the post you referenced so I have no idea what the
implication is

 

[Chad Harris]

A lot of people who perceive themselves Mensa boys and girls have a ton of
Darwin Award moments in their lives.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

Trolling in some quarters means going to bars and trying to pick someone up.
I imagine you are using "troll" in the connotation referenced here:

Who's afraid of the big bad Troll?
http://mwillett.org/troll.htm

CH

 

[Kerry Brown]

Exactly, it's an art form done right. Unfortunately most people who attempt
to troll don't realise this. But they're just stupid anyway so we all have
fun at their expense.

 

[Chad Harris]

As long as it gets posted. Someone into the thread enough to tell the story
and give the career followup as "premier truck driver" will find it easily.

CH

 

[Tom Scales]

Now THAT would be impressive. By definition, you can only have ONE Darwin
Award moment in your life. If you're having more than one, then we've
witnessed the second coming.

Tom

 

[DJ Bjorklund]

I can't believe what I'm reading here. If you don't know how to do the
following you shouldn't mess around with operating systems (especially beta
version):

Paritioning
Dual booting
DVD ISO buring
Writing burn CD Keys
Changing BIOS settings

As a person who meets the minimum requirements cited who is, so far, a
"successful" fledgling beta tester, and while I agree with the
sentiment of the original post, I can't help but think, why does the
manufacturer of the product allow such ready availability of a beta
release to the unwashed masses?

Yes, there are many warnings and disclaimers that experienced users
correctly view as "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the
kitchen", but we all know, like manuals, the masses don't read 'em,
never have or will. And if you hang it out there, they will download
and install it. Dual boot, schmual boot. Back-up, schmack-up

Here's my sci-fi based "black helicopters"/Orwellian thought regarding
this scenario (and old X-Files fan or not, I can't be the first to
have thought it, indeed there must be a term for it, no?) -insert
Twilight Zone theme music- It's almost as if Redmond is "beta
testing" the MVP/power user community's ability to help with work
arounds, for installation problems, bugs encountered, etc., etc.,
etc... Tell me I'm nuts, but...

 

[jonah]

As a person who meets the minimum requirements cited who is, so far, a
"successful" fledgling beta tester, and while I agree with the
sentiment of the original post, I can't help but think, why does the
manufacturer of the product allow such ready availability of a beta
release to the unwashed masses?

Yes, there are many warnings and disclaimers that experienced users
correctly view as "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the
kitchen", but we all know, like manuals, the masses don't read 'em,
never have or will. And if you hang it out there, they will download
and install it. Dual boot, schmual boot. Back-up, schmack-up

Here's my sci-fi based "black helicopters"/Orwellian thought regarding
this scenario (and old X-Files fan or not, I can't be the first to
have thought it, indeed there must be a term for it, no?) -insert
Twilight Zone theme music- It's almost as if Redmond is "beta
testing" the MVP/power user community's ability to help with work
arounds, for installation problems, bugs encountered, etc., etc.,
etc... Tell me I'm nuts, but...

Hey you got a point there DJ, not as far fetched as it sounds, have a
ready to go free support system for Vista when it is released.

Sounds like MSFT have outsmarted us again

Jonah

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Oh, I suggested at least a week ago that the wealth of knowledge MSFT gained
about their typical user by releasing this Beta was invaluable and probably
worth millions saved in "focus group testing" and the like.

That they did this on purpose with an eye on almost exactly this result
would be hard to build an argument against. Kudos to the evil genius that
came up with the idea!

I can't believe what I'm reading here. If you don't know how to do the
following you shouldn't mess around with operating systems (especially beta
version):

Paritioning
Dual booting
DVD ISO buring
Writing burn CD Keys
Changing BIOS settings

As a person who meets the minimum requirements cited who is, so far, a
"successful" fledgling beta tester, and while I agree with the
sentiment of the original post, I can't help but think, why does the
manufacturer of the product allow such ready availability of a beta
release to the unwashed masses?

Yes, there are many warnings and disclaimers that experienced users
correctly view as "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the
kitchen", but we all know, like manuals, the masses don't read 'em,
never have or will. And if you hang it out there, they will download
and install it. Dual boot, schmual boot. Back-up, schmack-up

Here's my sci-fi based "black helicopters"/Orwellian thought regarding
this scenario (and old X-Files fan or not, I can't be the first to
have thought it, indeed there must be a term for it, no?) -insert
Twilight Zone theme music- It's almost as if Redmond is "beta
testing" the MVP/power user community's ability to help with work
arounds, for installation problems, bugs encountered, etc., etc.,
etc... Tell me I'm nuts, but...

 

[John Barnes]

Unless the unwashed masses decide not to buy Vista based on the beta
experience

 

[Smoke286]

Trouble with this Beta is that too many people a lot lower down the
learning curve have been given access to something they are just not
ready to deal with. > Jonah

You may very well be correct, however, I cannot however fathom how making
snide remarks alieviate the problem

 

[Smoke286]

Microsoft made the decision to open up the Vista Beta Program to the general
public, perhaps because they were interested in seeing what problems someone
with less then proficient technical abilities might have with Vista in its
current form.
1- Because someone is not technically adept does not mean they are stupid
2- Because someone is technically adept does not mean they are smart
3- No one appointed you the arbiter of who is or is not worthy
4- As a rule of thumb, If a post does not warrant a reply, or if you cannot
help, don't bother replying

 

[DJ Bjorklund]

Unless the unwashed masses decide not to buy Vista based on the beta
experience

Yeah, that'll happen. That would be our friends who can't uninstall
Vista because they can't see it under Control Panel, Programs. They're
gonna, what, move to Red Hat Linux because of that?! ;-)

Given the highly unique, indeed never before seen market position of
Microsoft's OS division, a position I as an intolerant right-wing
capitalist positively marvel at, I'm sure its a risk they can
tolerate. It obviously is.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Except that MS explictly described what they meant by "customer" in Customer
Preview Program (developers, IT Professionals, and technology specialists)
and went further and listed the skills needed. They went further yet in
warning against installing on a production computer or primary home
computer. Then they went even further than that by warning that the Beta
could not be rolled back to the previous version of Windows.

It IS stupid to do the stuff a lot of posters here did in spite of all that.
And don't tell me that MS should have known that people don't read. It
isn't the point. Personal responsibility is the point.

 

[John Barnes]

Most of the sales will be pre-installed on new computers as usual. After
market sales, until far later when businesses adopt them, aren't a major
item. Most people are satisfied with what they have until they are ready
for a new computer. I marvel at the number of businesses that report to
still be on Win95.

 

[Larry Hodges]

Microsoft said before you downloaded it:
"Beta 2 is intended for developers, IT
professionals and technology experts to continue or begin their testing of
Windows Vista."

Further it says:
"Before you decide to use Beta 2, you should feel
comfortable with installing operating systems, updating drivers, and general
PC troubleshooting."

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

And I get flamed for "premier truck-driver"...

<sigh>

Unless the unwashed masses decide not to buy Vista based on the beta
experience