My god some people are slow.

S

Steve

I can't believe what I'm reading here. If you don't know how to do the
following you shouldn't mess around with operating systems (especially beta
version):

Paritioning
Dual booting
DVD ISO buring
Writing burn CD Keys
Changing BIOS settings
 
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Dennis Pack x64, v64 B2 \(5384\), O2007B2

Steve:

Have patience, it's the same as the CPP of x64. The
difference is that we now have Vista x86 and x64. One funny thing with x64
was a posting about trying to install x64 on a 500MH PIII with 64MG ram. I
read and enjoy, post when I may be of assistance.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

My favorite here was the poster who couldn't figure out how to uninstall
Vista because he couldn't find it in his Add/Remove Programs.
 
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Dennis Pack x64, v64 B2 \(5384\), O2007B2

Colin:
I agree, that was a good one.

Colin Barnhorst said:
My favorite here was the poster who couldn't figure out how to uninstall
Vista because he couldn't find it in his Add/Remove Programs.
 
J

John

I never saw that thread, but that is hilarious!

Colin Barnhorst said:
My favorite here was the poster who couldn't figure out how to uninstall
Vista because he couldn't find it in his Add/Remove Programs.
 
J

John

You forgot to mention backing up/imaging their information if/when they need
to revert to their previous data, and operating system. Lets also not
forget common sense, which it seems quite a few people didn't consider,
trying to run Vista on their only computer, and then complaining when Vista
isn't what they thought it was, however when was it not a beta os not for
mainstream use??

Its truly amazing the number of special people who didn't read the blatant
warnings on the Microsoft pages, and then wanted to get rid of Vista after
they let it take over their current install, however never backed any file
before installing Vista. If anyone has ever watched Carlos Mencia, just
imagine his impression of a retard, and that sums everything up.
 
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NoNoBadDog!

Steve said:
I can't believe what I'm reading here. If you don't know how to do the
following you shouldn't mess around with operating systems (especially beta
version):

Paritioning
Dual booting
DVD ISO buring
Writing burn CD Keys
Changing BIOS settings

So we can assume from your post that you were born with the knowledge on hoe
to do those things? You never had to ask a question to learn those skills?

It is my opinion that people like you that cannot remember that you were
once like they are should not be posting here.

FWIW, you are not as smart as you think you are. No one ever is.

Bobby
 
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Colin Barnhorst

I'm not exactly saying that some of them could drive at their IQ's and never
get a ticket (even in a school zone), but the irresponsibility evidenced
here is dumbfounding.
 
B

Bob T.

Personally I like quadruple booting and hosing os'es then fixing them.
Espescially fun with Linux. They made this frickin dvd for me. Right off
the bat, it wouldn't boot, not even close, half the drivers didn't load and
I'm looking at a stable Vista system, tho in beta, that is my main platform
now and may use it til it time bombs next year, all for $11 and a bunch of
my time. I learned much in the Windows 2000 CPP where I knew very little
and hit the newsgroups. But, yeah, if you're not willing to know how these
things work, messin with a beta OS may not be worth the $11 and takin the
machine to the repair shop.
 
T

Todd

NoNoBadDog! said:
So we can assume from your post that you were born with the knowledge on hoe
to do those things? You never had to ask a question to learn those skills?

It is my opinion that people like you that cannot remember that you were
once like they are should not be posting here.

FWIW, you are not as smart as you think you are. No one ever is.

Bobby
I'm going to agree with Steve here. I'm also going to ad:

backing up
imaging their old system

No one is born knowing how to do these things, that's not what Steve said.

What Steve said is that if you don't know how to do these things, then
instead of installing Vista on your main machine, you should be working on
learning them. And wait to install Vista until you can.

What's so hard or so awful about that?

Todd
 
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Tom Scales

NoNoBadDog! said:
So we can assume from your post that you were born with the knowledge on
hoe to do those things? You never had to ask a question to learn those
skills?

It is my opinion that people like you that cannot remember that you were
once like they are should not be posting here.

FWIW, you are not as smart as you think you are. No one ever is.

Bobby

That's not his point at all, and you know it. His point is that if you are
at this point in your learning curve, you should NOT be installing the beta
of an OS
 
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Smoke286

My God some of you people are conceited. Sure you've been at this longer
then some of the rest of us, sure some of those who downloaded Vista as part
of the CPP program are not technically proficient enough to handle the
learning curve. But trust me on this, very few of you are rocket scientists
either. You have one advantage, you have been at this longer. Get over your
condescending attitudes. If you have nothing constructive to add to the
conversation then keep your snide remarks to yourself.
 
T

Tom Scales

Oh come on. Get a sense of humor. Those of us that are spending our hours
volunteering to help the people too stupid to back up their computer have
one.
 
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Todd

Smoke286 said:
My God some of you people are conceited. Sure you've been at this longer
then some of the rest of us, sure some of those who downloaded Vista as part
of the CPP program are not technically proficient enough to handle the
learning curve. But trust me on this, very few of you are rocket scientists
either. You have one advantage, you have been at this longer. Get over your
condescending attitudes. If you have nothing constructive to add to the
conversation then keep your snide remarks to yourself.

If you have a test machine with no data on it that you care about, then none
of this applies to you.

If you are going to install Vista on a production machine, or your main home
machine, then you need to know how to do these things, and you also need to
do at least a data backup and better yet a drive image before you install
Vista.

We have seen enough reports from people who have upgraded their Windows XP
operating systems on a production machine, or their main home machine to
Windows Vista, and then want to go back to Windows XP, to be able to say
that you shouldn't do it.

In order not to do it, you need to create a new partition, and install Vista
as a dual boot.

You need to be aware that some people have partitioned their hard drives,
and then formatted their old operating system partitions, and installed
their Windows Vista there. I was spooked enough by this possibility that I
disconnected my Windows 2000 drive from the system while installing Vista on
a different drive.

If you order the DVDs from Microsoft, you don't have to figure out how to
burn the DVDs, but if you download the iso file, you must not only know how
to burn it to a DVD, but also how to check the downloaded file to make sure
that it is not corrupt as many of the downloads are.

If your BIOS is not set to boot from CD, you really do need to figure out
how to set that in your BIOS before you can install Vista that way.
Starting the Vista installation from Windows XP is another option. Since my
operating system is Windows 2000 I didn't have that option, but I didn't
want it.

Vista Beta 2 is a Beta. It is buggy and unstable. It is not as buggy or as
unstable as earlier versions, and we all hope that RC1 will be less buggy
and less unstable than Beta 2, but you should not look on this as a free
operating system. It is test software for an operating system that is still
being developed.

If you want to install any Beta operating system, not just Vista, you better
learn these things plus a lot more before you screw up your system and lose
your data.

I agree with what Steve said, I don't consider it to be unconstructive,
although it may be a little condecending, and if you want to compare
attitudes, I don't think you are going to come out too well.

Todd
 
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dotcom

I think that it's absolutely GREAT that Newbies upgrade a BETA OS over their
current OS, on their one and only production machine, backup nothing, don't
know what an ISO is, totally FUBAR their machines, then come here and ask
dumb (to some) questions!!! Making mistakes is about the BEST learning
experience there is! Let's be patient. We were all there once.
dotcom
 
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Colin Barnhorst

Except that the disclaimers on GetReady do not say "use this download to
increase your skills from newbie to proficiency." It says it is for
developers, IT professionals, and technology specialists.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

The disclaimers on GetReady warn against this. There are losts of resources
on microsoft.com for learning all kinds of skills. CPP is not one of them.
 

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