MS What Is going on with networking?

B

B T Cloutier

Looking at all the recent post in newsgroups and everywhere else it is
obvious that one of patches must have caused all the problems people
(including me) are having on their home networks! It has happened to
many people who had working networks before and now they can"t access
other PC's or share files on their home networks. I hope MS can come out
with a patch to fix this mess soon!

Brian
(Frustrated in MI)
 
M

Malke

B said:
Looking at all the recent post in newsgroups and everywhere else it is
obvious that one of patches must have caused all the problems people
(including me) are having on their home networks! It has happened to
many people who had working networks before and now they can"t access
other PC's or share files on their home networks. I hope MS can come
out with a patch to fix this mess soon!

Brian
(Frustrated in MI)
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I have 6 Windows XP Computers - 5 Pro and 1 Home - all SP2 and
completely updated with absolutely no networking problems. If you would
like help with your particular problem, please post back with all
details of your computers, your networking setup, and the problem.

Malke
 
C

Chuck

Looking at all the recent post in newsgroups and everywhere else it is
obvious that one of patches must have caused all the problems people
(including me) are having on their home networks! It has happened to
many people who had working networks before and now they can"t access
other PC's or share files on their home networks. I hope MS can come out
with a patch to fix this mess soon!

Brian
(Frustrated in MI)
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Brian,

I can't speak for MS (not too many here can, most everybody is just a civilian
like you), but there's not really any recent increase in problems here. Just
lots of background noise.

There are a lot of problems with common causes, but the details are all
different. As such, it's useless to make a blanket diagnosis, you have to
analyse each problem, figure out what causes it, and determine a solution.

I see that you posted here earlier, and Steve tried to help you. Did you bother
to respond to his post? That's the best way to get help.
 
B

B T Cloutier

Chuck said:
Brian,

I can't speak for MS (not too many here can, most everybody is just a civilian
like you), but there's not really any recent increase in problems here. Just
lots of background noise.

There are a lot of problems with common causes, but the details are all
different. As such, it's useless to make a blanket diagnosis, you have to
analyse each problem, figure out what causes it, and determine a solution.

I see that you posted here earlier, and Steve tried to help you. Did you bother
to respond to his post? That's the best way to get help.
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I can't do an ipconfig /all on this PC because I get a 16 bit subsystem
error.
 
B

B T Cloutier

Malke said:
B T Cloutier wrote:




I have 6 Windows XP Computers - 5 Pro and 1 Home - all SP2 and
completely updated with absolutely no networking problems. If you would
like help with your particular problem, please post back with all
details of your computers, your networking setup, and the problem.

Malke
Click to expand...
Thanks,
Below was my original post. I can't do a ipconfig /all on this PC (B)
because I am getting a 16 bit subsystem error. I am leaning toward
trying a repair install or the old Format C and start over.

Thanks,
Brian

I have 3 pc's on my home network 2 with XP Pro and 1 with XP home. I
had I no issues then all of a sudden 2 of the PCs can no longer access
each other on the network. PC A can'tconnect to PC B or C. PC B can't
connect to A(XP Home) or C(XP Pro) but can access B(XP Pro). PC C
cannot connect to A or B. I get the unable to connect error. I have
tried running
the network wizard with no luck. Something has changed. Could it have
been one of the windows updates? I have a friend that is having the same
problem! His desktop can access his laptop but the laptop cannot access
the desktop. This seems to be a big issue right now with XP. (All PC's
mentioned are XP) I have tried the following:
1. Turned off windows firewall
2. Installed Netbeui (TOOK OUT 7-17)
3. Network ID.

Please help soon!

Thanks,

Brian
 
B

B T Cloutier

Chuck said:
Brian,

If you can't run "ipconfig /all", then you have problems. You have to fix your
problem before working on your network.

First, reset TCP/IP <http://support.microsoft.com/?id=299357>

If that doesn't help, try running the System File Checker. Have your install CD
available, and hit Start - Run - type "sfc /scannow".
<http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310747>
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I had to use ipconfig from run commandcom.exe. If I use ip in the run
box the window opens briefly then closes. Pasted below is the ipconfig
for PC B.

Thanks,

Brian

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DadsNew

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-5B-5F-E0-0D

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.188

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, July 19, 2005
1:36:34 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
11:14:07 PM
 
B

B T Cloutier

Ron said:
What is the actual text of the 16 bit subystem error message that you
are getting?


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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C:\windows\system32command.com
The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction
CS:065b !P:0000 OP:ff ff ff ff ff chose "close to terminate the application

This is it exactly.

Thanks,

Brian
 
C

Chuck

I had to use ipconfig from run commandcom.exe. If I use ip in the run
box the window opens briefly then closes. Pasted below is the ipconfig
for PC B.

Thanks,

Brian
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<SNIP>

Brian,

OK, looking at "ipconfig /all" for DadsNew:
# Computer has connectivity to DHCP server.
# Computer has no excessive protocol (no IPV6).
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/reading-ipconfig-and-diagnosing.html>

In a case like yours, we'll all benefit from examining "browstat status" and
"ipconfig /all" for each of the 3 computers. Then we'll probably try CDiag
next. Please see this article for instructions:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
 
G

Guest

Here is ipconfig from PC C. I can access C from B and A but not visa versa.
Browser stat for C to folllow.

Thanks,

Brian
 
G

Guest

Here is brows stat for PC C. Info for PC B and A to folow.

Thanks again Brian



Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DADSNEW
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master DADSNEW
\\DADSNEW
There are 2 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
 
B

B T Cloutier

Here is browsstat info for PC B. I will post info for PC A later.

Thanks,

Brian


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A9757019-FEEE-488C-96DC-01B78D8CD530}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DADSNEW
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master DADSNEW
\\DADSNEW
There are 2 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A9757019-FEEE-488C-96DC-01B78D8CD530}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A9757019-FEEE-488C-96DC-01B78D8CD530}
 
B

B T Cloutier

Chuck,

Here are the stats for PC A.

Thanks,

Brian



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Michele

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com Gigabit LOM (3C940)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-A6-58-C8-74

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.79

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, July 19, 2005
1:50:45 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
10:14:07 PM



Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{94808B34-FA99-4C98-BC08-1F9CE65AE1AB}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DADSNEW
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master DADSNEW
\\DADSNEW
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{94808B34-FA99-4C98-BC08-1F9CE65AE1AB}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{94808B34-FA99-4C98-BC08-1F9CE65AE1AB}
 
C

Chuck

Chuck,

Here are the stats for PC A.
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<SNIP>

OK, Brian,

I've retrieved everything BUT "ipconfig /all" from PC C. You mentioned that
portion in your reply to GTS:
Here is ipconfig from PC C. I can access C from B and A but not visa versa.
Browser stat for C to folllow.

Thanks,

Brian
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but you provided no content. Please repost "ipconfig /all" from PC C, and
please tell me where you post it so I don't have to search thru all of your
replies to the various helpers, OK?
 
B

B T Cloutier

Chuck said:
<SNIP>

OK, Brian,

I've retrieved everything BUT "ipconfig /all" from PC C. You mentioned that
portion in your reply to GTS:




but you provided no content. Please repost "ipconfig /all" from PC C, and
please tell me where you post it so I don't have to search thru all of your
replies to the various helpers, OK?
Click to expand...

Sorry about the confusion. I used ms newsgroups on the web on PC C and
outlook express on A and B. I have been doing musical PC's trying to
get this right.

Thanks,

Brian
IP and browse stat from PC C.



Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Abitkg7

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-BA-C7-94-FD

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.108

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.254.254

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, July 20, 2005
9:03:20 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
11:14:07 PM



Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: DADSNEW
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master DADSNEW
\\DADSNEW
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{80F515C8-1DAE-4152-8015-2D9F34A3DFAE}
 
C

Chuck

Sorry about the confusion. I used ms newsgroups on the web on PC C and
outlook express on A and B. I have been doing musical PC's trying to
get this right.

Thanks,

Brian

IP and browse stat from PC C.
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<SNIP>

NP, Brian. Just a little diversion there. But I assembled the puzzle.

Looking at aggregated browstat and ipconfig logs for all 3 computers.
# All computers have connectivity, and are getting DHCP settings.
# All 3 computers are in domain / workgroup Workgroup.
# All 3 computers acknowledge same master and backup browser, Dadsnew.
# No computers have IPV6.
# Computer B, Dadsnew, has IPX/SPX.
# Computer B, DadsNew, is denying administrative access ("error = 5" from
Michele and Abitkg7).
# Computer B, Dadsnew, only sees 2 computers in the domain / workgroup.

Is DadsNew running XP Home or Pro? If Pro, is it running Simple or Classic File
Sharing? If Classic, is it using Guest authentication? Remember XP Home is
Simple File Sharing, and Guest authentication, only.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Simple>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Guest>

Recommendations:
# Remove IPX/SPX from DadsNew.
# Check Guest account on Dadsnew per instructions here.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
# Check registry setting restrictanonymous on all 3 computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
# Check all computers for misconfigured / overlooked firewall.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>

For comprehensive information, read these two troubleshooting guides:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
 
R

Ron Martell

C:\windows\system32command.com
The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal instruction
CS:065b !P:0000 OP:ff ff ff ff ff chose "close to terminate the application

This is it exactly.

Thanks,

Brian
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Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring up the Windows Task Manager and go to
the Process tab.

Look on the Process list for processes whose names are indented one
space, and which have no entries in PID or most other columns except
for User Name, CPU, and CPU Time. These should be the 16 bit
processes running under NTVDM and one of them is probably the actual
culprit.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
B

B T Cloutier

Ron said:
Press Ctrl+Alt+Delete to bring up the Windows Task Manager and go to
the Process tab.

Look on the Process list for processes whose names are indented one
space, and which have no entries in PID or most other columns except
for User Name, CPU, and CPU Time. These should be the 16 bit
processes running under NTVDM and one of them is probably the actual
culprit.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Thanks Ron will do!

Brian
 

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