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Frank Bohan
I seem to recall that they did this once before. I have not yet received the
message from MS.
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Frank Bohan
¶ Kilroy occupied these coordinates.
I seem to recall that they did this once before. I have not yet received the
message from MS.
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Frank Bohan
¶ Kilroy occupied these coordinates.
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Richard Steinfeld
John said:
Gotcha. Appreciated.
However, with consideration, I think that we all agree with you, so you
don't have to point it out. Most of us hate spammers, and don't
appreciate the other software that sneaks into this discussion. So, it
becomes a statement that's like, "I breathe air. I eat food."
Hmmm. Your sig text is appearing in my Thunderbird as gray, and in my
reply, it's invisible. How'd you do that?
Ironically, I brought up an issue of a certain form of payware in
another thread, and I was asked to make it a root topic here: install
trackers and uninstallers -- there's not one of them that's free any
more, and if we go trying freeware willie-nillie, sooner or later, a few
of us are going to find ourselves in a nasty system "gotcha." In
self-defense, we're going to have to bite the bullet and discuss
non-free uninstallers here. Or many of us will pay dearly. What do you
think?
Richard
Richard
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBQ=AB?=
A sig should be preceeded by two dashes and a space on a line of their
own. Thunderbird respects that signature delimiter, and presents it in
another color. You can probably change the appearance somewhere in the
view options. For me, sigs are blue. Most newsreaders will strip the
sig when replying, another good reason to use the delimiter.
J
John Corliss
Richard said:
I didn't do it. Thunderbird did.
Well, we don't have a freeware truetype font editor either, but we don't
talk about commercial ones.
This group is supposed to be for the discussion of freeware. If there is
no program in a certain category, then .... we're out of luck.
Discussion of non-freeware in this group, with a few exceptions like
donationware or certain liteware etc., is just plain a bad idea.
As for the installation monitoring program, the last freeware version of
Total Uninstall (2.35) is still available here:
http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=234
http://digilander.libero.it/molearchive3/tun235.zip
I still use it. But another way to do this is to take a snapshot of your
hard drive both before and after installation, and back up your
registry. That, combined with system restore (if you have it) will kill
any installation.
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
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technomaNge
John said:
John, it IS worse than you think. See
http://www.microsoft.com/security/partners/antivirus.asp
where it says (in part) "Antivirus software is available from a
variety of Microsoft partners, including the following:"
then lists 25 companies.
technomaNge
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John Corliss
technomaNge said:
Looks like they're all there. However, being a partner isn't the same as
being "assimilated". 80)>
This brings a (I'm sure naive) question to mind though; what freeware
antivirus programs are available for Linux?
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
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Roger G
Well, now some naive soul will tell you that "we don't need AV in Linux"
))))))))))BTW, thanks for shortening your sig. Pheeewww
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Azzman
http://www.clamav.net/
http://www.f-prot.com/products/index.html
No real-time scanners, just on demand.
J
John Corliss
Roger said:Well, now some naive soul will tell you that "we don't need AV in Linux"
BTW, thanks for shortening your sig. Pheeewww
Still don't understand why signature file size is such an issue with
some people. Mostly it's a holdover from low bandwidth days.
Most people (like me) simply ignore large sig files. Life is too short.
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
R
Roger G
Pheeewww
Oh, so you think is OK to post in HTML then?
Oh, so you think is OK to post in HTML then?
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Azzman
You could also ignore trolls, spam, top-posting, etc. Life is too short
indeed.
But simple usenet-tiquette makes that short life a little more comfortable
for all of us.
Just my two €-cents.
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Peter Seiler
John Corliss - 01.12.2005 13:05 :
John, other people (like me) tries sometimes in extreme causes (mostly
without success) convincing asocial/egoistic usenet behavior, that a
minimum of usenet-tiquette (hello Azzman) has to do with (usenet-)
experiences, education, respect, usenet-netticette, -"rules" etc..
Even more egoistic, thoughtless behavior are the endless fullquotings
cumulating especially within longer threads. Most people dont know/care
about how to quote. And if you give *friendly* recommendation on how to
do, you get kiddish and/or vulgair (**** etc.) responses like "usenet is
free, so everybody can do what he wants". Yes, we live in a more and
more egoistic reckless world :-(
John, other people (like me) tries sometimes in extreme causes (mostly
without success) convincing asocial/egoistic usenet behavior, that a
minimum of usenet-tiquette (hello Azzman) has to do with (usenet-)
experiences, education, respect, usenet-netticette, -"rules" etc..
Even more egoistic, thoughtless behavior are the endless fullquotings
cumulating especially within longer threads. Most people dont know/care
about how to quote. And if you give *friendly* recommendation on how to
do, you get kiddish and/or vulgair (**** etc.) responses like "usenet is
free, so everybody can do what he wants". Yes, we live in a more and
more egoistic reckless world :-(
J
John Corliss
Roger said:
Roger, I never said that. Please don't extrapolate from my remarks.
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
J
John Corliss
Azzman said:
This would be a bad analogy because usenet annoyances are subject to the
"matter of degree" principle - Trolls and spam being over the top.
Most likely you've never been piled on by trolls like I have either. I
will *not* allow killfiled trolls to make a smartass reply and have it
appear that I'm "afraid" to respond or have been overcome by their
"mighty trolldom". That will not change. Yes, it probably is an "ego"
problem, but that's simply the way it is.
Most people who top-post are either trolls or newbies. Trolls do it
intentionally and in order to cause problems, newbies usually stop doing
it when things are nicely explained to them and they see how it aids
reading the posts.
However, in all this discussion of signature files, I've yet to see any
good reason for making such a big deal about their size.
Well, I pretty much agree, but I'm afraid that my signature file will
remain as it is. As I've said to others, if it bothers a person all they
have to do is to killfile my posts. I certainly don't have the largest
signature file of the regular posters to this group.
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
P
Peter Seiler
John Corliss - 01.12.2005 19:47 :
John, if a SIG is about 5 lines it doesn't matter, is not very
important. Otherwise I have seen SIGs with hundreds! of lines because
the author put all quoting lines into the SIG. So, often it's difficult
determining, what is to tolerate and what is too much...
And more than often I hear from reposters to which I recommendated
*friendly* a better quoting behavior (avoid fullquoting) similar
arguments you are using above:
"my quoting and or topposting, "--" false SIG-delimter etc. will remain
as is...usenet is absolutely free and I do what I want to do my way and
nobody has to give me any behavior suggestions, you moron...etc."
You understand what I mean? (excuse: English is not my native language).
John, if a SIG is about 5 lines it doesn't matter, is not very
important. Otherwise I have seen SIGs with hundreds! of lines because
the author put all quoting lines into the SIG. So, often it's difficult
determining, what is to tolerate and what is too much...
And more than often I hear from reposters to which I recommendated
*friendly* a better quoting behavior (avoid fullquoting) similar
arguments you are using above:
"my quoting and or topposting, "--" false SIG-delimter etc. will remain
as is...usenet is absolutely free and I do what I want to do my way and
nobody has to give me any behavior suggestions, you moron...etc."
You understand what I mean? (excuse: English is not my native language).
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technomaNge
John said:
Only one I know of is Clam-something (Mr. Google knows!).
I'm using a linux machine and don't worry about virus stuff,
mainly because I do not run as root (Administrator to Windows folks)
so the worst that could happen is I kill the user account and
make a new one.
Plus, Windows viruses don't run on linux.
technomaNge
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dszady
F-Prot.John said:
Bit Defender.
I sprinkle my hard drive with Eicar files and Bit Offender does NOT pick
up archived viruses. BD has been chucked.
I don't trust ClamAV because it's not updated often enough.
Unfortunately, supposedly the best in the world, "Kaspersky", needs IE
to run.
I also run chkrootkit and Rkhunter. Rkhunter being far superior. If you
read about "rootkit", it's kinda scary. "Re-install OS." Huh? Might as
well update to Mandriva 2006.
D
dszady
Azzman said:
ClamAV can be made to be on demand.
Or if you are really paranoid, download whatever and scan them.
D
David
I just tried that on a machine that will not run Win98SE. I had
Mandrake 10.1 on it and it was behaving quite well. I decided to
upgrade to Mandriva Free 2006 and it locks solid about thirty seconds
after opening KDE. Oh well! Back to 10.1 I suppose.
--
David
Remove "farook" to reply
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
E-mail: justdas at iinet dot net dot au
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John Corliss
Azzman said:
Thanks for the list. I'll save that one to a file. And since that's how
I run AVG in Windows, it won't be a big deal for me.
--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.