MS antivirus update

F

FTR

I just wanted to look up a dns and did not type the good address for the
ripe whois. So I got a somewhat doubtful adult dating site at
www.ripe.org, and at the same time, an invitation from MS to update my
free MS antivirus (beta). The conincidence is troubling.

Did someone else here on the list get an invitation to update the MS
antivirus ?

Frank
 
J

John Corliss

FTR said:
I just wanted to look up a dns and did not type the good address for the
ripe whois. So I got a somewhat doubtful adult dating site at
www.ripe.org, and at the same time, an invitation from MS to update my
free MS antivirus (beta). The conincidence is troubling.

Did someone else here on the list get an invitation to update the MS
antivirus ?

Frank

Frank,
Why don't you do a manual check for the update?

By the way, that Microsoft is trying to get into the AV business seems
to be a blatant conflict of interest to me.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
J

John Corliss

Azzman said:

I would answer that, but doing so would be totally off topic in this
group and I've been engaging in altogether too much of that lately.
Thus, I will refrain. I hope you understand.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
J

John Corliss

Azzman said:

I would answer that, but doing so would be totally off topic in this
group and I've been engaging in altogether too much of that lately.
Thus, I will refrain. I hope you understand.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
R

Roger G

John Corliss said:
I would answer that, but doing so would be totally off topic in this group
and I've been engaging in altogether too much of that lately. Thus, I will
refrain. I hope you understand.

I don't understand either.
 
A

Azzman

I would answer that, but doing so would be totally off topic in this
group and I've been engaging in altogether too much of that lately.
Thus, I will refrain. I hope you understand.

No. I do understand that this newsgroup isn't meant for discussions
about this subject. I do understand you are/have been involved in these
discussions ending in your killfile and your sig getting bigger and
bigger. I do not understand why you made your initial remark considering
the above.

But to end this: you can email an answer to my question to Azzworld AT
gmail DOT com.
 
A

Aaron

I just wanted to look up a dns and did not type the good address for the
ripe whois. So I got a somewhat doubtful adult dating site at
www.ripe.org, and at the same time, an invitation from MS to update my
free MS antivirus (beta). The conincidence is troubling.

What exactly do you mean an "invitation from MS" ? If it's A browser popup,
of course you ignore it. If it's something else, then you have big
problems.
 
J

John Corliss

Azzman said:
No. I do understand that this newsgroup isn't meant for discussions
about this subject. I do understand you are/have been involved in these
discussions ending in your killfile and your sig getting bigger and
bigger. I do not understand why you made your initial remark considering
the above.

But to end this: you can email an answer to my question to Azzworld AT
gmail DOT com.

No, I don't give any of my email addresses to anybody I don't know
anymore. Since you insist that I answer though, here goes:

If Microsoft gets into the AV program market, then they will have a
vested interest in ensuring that people use their program.

Not only that, but what better way, eventually, to get people to be
forced into upgrading their software than to make their AV program not
work in older versions of Windows?

They hold all the cards on a system that's running their OS.

There has been speculation in the past that most commercial AV companies
possibly might be responsible for some of the viruses that they cure and
protect against. Certainly, the possibility exists.

Given Microsoft's past practices, they're not excluded from this suspicion.

Microsoft would be better off if they stayed away from producing AV
software altogether. If they do follow through with this bad idea, they
will loose all credibility in my book.

YMMV.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
J

John Corliss

Roger said:
I don't understand either.

See my reply to Azzman (just posted).

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
J

John Corliss

John said:
No, I don't give any of my email addresses to anybody I don't know
anymore. Since you insist that I answer though, here goes:

If Microsoft gets into the AV program market, then they will have a
vested interest in ensuring that people use their program.

Not only that, but what better way, eventually, to get people to be
forced into upgrading their software than to make their AV program not
work in older versions of Windows?

They hold all the cards on a system that's running their OS.

There has been speculation in the past that most commercial AV companies
possibly might be responsible for some of the viruses that they cure and
protect against. Certainly, the possibility exists.

Given Microsoft's past practices, they're not excluded from this suspicion.

Microsoft would be better off if they stayed away from producing AV
software altogether. If they do follow through with this bad idea, they
will loose all credibility in my book.

YMMV.

Oh yeah, all the above is "IMO" too.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
J

John Corliss

Azzman said:
(clipped) I do understand you are/have been involved in these
discussions ending in your killfile and your sig getting bigger and
bigger.

By the way, my signature file only got modified for clarification. As
for my killfile growing, I will always add somebody who calls me names
like "felcher boy" or the like to it. When somebody can't behave in a
civil fashion, I have no desire to waste my time communicating with them.

I appreciate your civility by the way.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
F

FTR

Aaron said:
@news.wanadoo.fr:




What exactly do you mean an "invitation from MS" ? If it's A browser popup,
of course you ignore it. If it's something else, then you have big
problems.

It looked like a "pop-under" i.e. it was a message that popped up in the
lower right of the screen, just as the messages that you get when MS
antivirus tells you that it blocked a browser helper object, for instance.
 
R

Roger G

conflict of interest to me.
If Microsoft gets into the AV program market, then they will have a vested
interest in ensuring that people use their program.
Of course. The same apply for Symantec, Panda, AVG and all that family

, but what better way, eventually, to get people to be
forced into upgrading their software than to make their AV program not
work in older versions of Windows?

Who forces you to use MSOffice? Or MS Backup? or MS Antispyware? Or IE? Or
even Windows?
They hold all the cards on a system that's running their OS.

They have the right to, but anyway that's a myth. There are VERY FEW
undocumented functions in the OS and that's always for a reason.
There has been speculation in the past that most commercial AV companies
possibly might be responsible for some of the viruses that they cure and
protect against. Certainly, the possibility exists.

Yeah right,


Please, could you cut down a bit your signature? This is a very bad usenet
practice.
Thank you
 
A

Azzman

Didn't insist, but thanks anyway.

Like all companies.

IMO it's normal for a company to stop supporting old products at a certain
point. The 'certain point'-part is open for discussion of course.
IMO 98 is seven years ago, that's a long, long time in this business that
develops when I blink my eyes.

Not according to some lawsuits (like the one regarding integrating
mediaplayer in their os).

What practices ?

Your book, your call.

It always does.
Oh yeah, all the above is "IMO" too.

noted, mine too.
 
J

John Corliss

Roger said:
Of course. The same apply for Symantec, Panda, AVG and all that family


Who forces you to use MSOffice? Or MS Backup? or MS Antispyware? Or IE? Or
even Windows?

Roger, I don't use MSOffice, MS Backup, MS Antispyware and the only
reason I use IE is to update Windows. So in a sense, yes.. I am being
forced to use IE because I use Windows.

As for being forced to use Windows, it's simply a matter of degree. I,
like most other people, am accustomed to the paradigm. Switching to
another OS like Linux is going to take a lot of work and getting used to
its UI. In my case though, it's going to happen soon.
They have the right to,

Not according to the United States supreme court.
but anyway that's a myth. There are VERY FEW
undocumented functions in the OS and that's always for a reason.

Perhaps that's so.. perhaps that's not so. You would have to decompile
all of Windows' code to know for sure, and that task is so daunting that
even the United States' legal system eschews it.
Yeah right,

As I said, "There has been speculation in the past etc."
Please, could you cut down a bit your signature? This is a very bad usenet
practice.
Thank you

I prefer not to. And in any event, there is simply no reason why it
should any longer be considered a "bad usenet practice". Bandwidth and
software have both improved vastly since the old three line sig limit
was set.

--
Regards from John Corliss
My current killfile: aafuss, Chrissy Cruiser, Slowhand Hussein, BEN
RITCHEY and others.
Generally speaking, if I don't respond to somebody who is acting
immaturely, it's because I've killfiled them.

No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware,
viruses or warez please.
 
R

Roger G

Oh, and good luck with Linux. Rumor has that this is the cure to cancer and
the salvation of the world.
 
D

Daniel Mandic

John said:
By the way, my signature file only got modified for clarification. As
for my killfile growing, I will always add somebody who calls me
names like "felcher boy" or the like to it. When somebody can't
behave in a civil fashion, I have no desire to waste my time
communicating with them.

I appreciate your civility by the way.


Hi John!



What in the nine hells is a felcher? I thought I have a comprehensive
Dictionary but nothing with felch, felcher. Fletcher?




Kind Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 

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