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John Stubbings
Slarty said:
Also says ' We also may not release a commercial version of the
software.'
Also says ' We also may not release a commercial version of the
software.'
M
Mike Andrade
Fran said:
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jo
Bob said:Substitute "not paranoid" for "innocent".
There are perhaps 100,000 very smart jo's out there, right now, watching
this program like with a suspicious eye. One slip, and MS will be in the
headlines or in court. I don't think MS would be stupid enough to load this
program with anything that's not kosher. Er... surely they wouldn't.
Hey, I may be wrong about this. If I am, I will come back and admit it.
If it turns out that the program is not spyware (or whatever you are worried
about), will you step up and admit you were wrong on this one?
I was not commenting at all on the program, which I am quite prepared to
concede might be the best ever.
I was commenting on the fact that money can buy the law. Money can buy
politicians and judges and can wholly intimidate the 'ordinary punter'
with it's power.
The two hippies that beat McDonalds might be the exception which proves
the rule. But they gave up their lives to do it; McDonalds just threw
some of their money at the problem.
I assume MS is worth more than McD. And have more intelligent
management.
And if they set out to break the law for whatever reason they will
factor a few trifling multi million pound fines into their cost benefit
analyses.
I don't feel particularly paranoid in respect of MS, but I would feel a
bit foolish not to acknowledge the power that such a monopoly can
exercise in the 'free market'.
B
Bob Adkins
I agree.
I hate to overanalyze, but MS knows we know that. MS is the party that
needs to be paranoid. Not that I trust MS or believe they are looking out
for my best interest. It's just that MS is on the defensive since the
lawsuits a couple of years back.
-- Bob
B
Bob Adkins
Ah! MS has its finger to the wind.
-- Bob
J
jo
Bob said:
Are they?
Do monopolies do 'defensive'?
A defensive international bank?
A defensive international oil company?
A defensive international media conglomerate?
A defensive international software empire?
I don't think so.
YMMV.
S
Sue Mommie
As with anything new, it's really prudent to totally backup your stuff
before you install. That being said, I downloaded and installed it, and
reached out for the updates, and tinkered around with the settings (don't
like anything auto-updating, rather click the buttons myself when I have
time to deal with the contingencies...) then ran it (on two machines) and
it found 4 items (mostly remnants) on one machine, and 2 items on the
other - which both Ad-aware SE Pro v1.05 and Webroot Spy Sweeper v3.5
have consistently missed. M$ *should* recognize those renegade dll's and
ocx's in their own system folders, ehh? Not like Webroot or Lavasoft want
to go ripping out a potential system file...
This Beta1 gives you an option to backup your settings, etc. before you
make any changes. Nice touch.
I think the GUI is a little gay, but other than than that, it's a pretty
neat deal for the price. Nothing difficult or sneaky that I could find.
Cheers.
M
me
Care to elaborate on "MS is on the defensive" ?
J
B
Bob Adkins
Agreed. Don't know if Giant or MS is responsible for the GUI, but I think
it's heavy and a little odd.
-- Bob
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CHarneyCHRIS
i see ms are up to their usual tricks, theres no version for win95/98/me.
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Mike
jo said:
ITYM " its ".
hth.
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jo
Mike said:
Hello stranger. Press H to see my new toy.
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Mike
jo said:Hello stranger. Press H to see my new toy.
Yo.
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.38
I assume that's not entirely genuine?
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jo
Oh ye of little faith. You think I'd try to fob you off with a cheap
header hack?
http://ftp.yars.free.net/pub/software/windows/win31/netutils/news/
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Mike
Well I did think that might be too obv., but then again, in teh
absence of MIME-Version, Content-Type, etc...
Strewth.. "Last Modified - 24-Mar-1995 ".
Which OS are you running it on, quill and ink?
K
Kneed Euless
I know... And there was no version for Basic, Basica, DOS 3.3 or
Windows 1.0!! My god! Those cretins are out to scam the globe, aren't
they?!
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Mel
Sex & Greed makes the world go round...jo said:
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jo
Mike said:
Well I don't have them anyway, innit? We've had this discussion
before... what am I running now?
Good eh? I think it is the first ever, the spalsh screen says: Beta
Trial Release...
98SE. I bet it will run on anything, tho. Try it, it is only a matter of
unzipping it and running the exe; use it with the Germans because there
is probably an upper limit on the groups list - ie, it fell over when I
tried to load it with Clara's 60000.
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Mike
jo said:
Yebbut, 's why it would've bin trivial to spoof, see.
Erm, I forget.. Gerbil? nfilter v2.xx Rev c3 wiv plugy bits?
You're actually happy wiv a spalsh screen? Flip, etc.
kk.. Will test it later on this eve. Ta, etc.
J
jo
Mike said:
I had a ghastly 'little britain' moment then...
But anyway... I couldn't get the X-Newsreader to the bottom like that
Yep, but without whatever a 'plugy bit' is
Nope. But I'm not about to nip into the exe to find and bin it. A reason
I never went to A1.93 is that there is a button push hack for 1.91 that
loses the spalsh screen
Hee hee
K etc