K
KatWoman
so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
E
E. T. Culling
People will not download that .. it will only annoy them. Look through many
previous posts on this subject. Make short bits of text into graphics, gifs
that is, and import them into your images folder before you place them on
the page.
Eleanor
previous posts on this subject. Make short bits of text into graphics, gifs
that is, and import them into your images folder before you place them on
the page.
Eleanor
P
Paul S. Wolf
Not reliably. WEFT supposedly can, but it can be disabled (and usually
is) and only works in IE, and even then is usually flaky.
Also, do you have the right to distribute the font? (They are copyrighted.)
?
=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\
no not really...well sorta if they are using IE...but then again...
who's gonna download a font so that they can see your web page as you want them to see it? Read about WEFT.
| so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
|
|
who's gonna download a font so that they can see your web page as you want them to see it? Read about WEFT.
| so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
|
|
C
Cheryl D Wise
Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
extraneous objects.
I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
to.
--
Cheryl D. Wise
MS FrontPage MVP
http://mvp.wiserways.com
http://starttoweb.com
Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
Dreamweaver and more!
Next Session June 26th
protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
extraneous objects.
I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
to.
--
Cheryl D. Wise
MS FrontPage MVP
http://mvp.wiserways.com
http://starttoweb.com
Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
Dreamweaver and more!
Next Session June 26th
?
=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\
sidebar;
so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
"Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| extraneous objects.
|
| I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| to.
|
| --
| Cheryl D. Wise
| MS FrontPage MVP
| http://mvp.wiserways.com
| http://starttoweb.com
| Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| Dreamweaver and more!
| Next Session June 26th
|
| | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >
|
|
so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
"Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| extraneous objects.
|
| I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| to.
|
| --
| Cheryl D. Wise
| MS FrontPage MVP
| http://mvp.wiserways.com
| http://starttoweb.com
| Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| Dreamweaver and more!
| Next Session June 26th
|
| | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >
|
|
M
Murray
There are several new ways evolving to do such things, but they are still
'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement technique' - see,
for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
or here -
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
or for "TIP" methods, see here:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
The latter is a quite interesting method.
DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your time and
effort....
'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement technique' - see,
for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
or here -
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
or for "TIP" methods, see here:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
The latter is a quite interesting method.
DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your time and
effort....
T
Thomas A. Rowe
Print houses have to have the font installed on their system as well. WEFT, if I recall will not let
you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
sidebar;
so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
"Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| extraneous objects.
|
| I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| to.
|
| --
| Cheryl D. Wise
| MS FrontPage MVP
| http://mvp.wiserways.com
| http://starttoweb.com
| Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| Dreamweaver and more!
| Next Session June 26th
|
| | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >
|
|
you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
sidebar;
so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
"Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| extraneous objects.
|
| I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| to.
|
| --
| Cheryl D. Wise
| MS FrontPage MVP
| http://mvp.wiserways.com
| http://starttoweb.com
| Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| Dreamweaver and more!
| Next Session June 26th
|
| | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >
|
|
?
=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\
I think all fonts have that ability to restrict embedding. Yes, print houses have to have the font installed but if they don't have it, they will ask for you to include it with the files. I'm just kinda curious abt the legal aspect of it all...thought Cheryl would have some insight. I love copyright/trademark laws.
| Print houses have to have the font installed on their system as well. WEFT, if I recall will not let
| you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | sidebar;
|
| so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
| the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
| your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
|
|
|
| "Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| | | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| | protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| | IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| | overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| | install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| | trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| | extraneous objects.
| |
| | I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| | to.
| |
| | --
| | Cheryl D. Wise
| | MS FrontPage MVP
| | http://mvp.wiserways.com
| | http://starttoweb.com
| | Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| | Dreamweaver and more!
| | Next Session June 26th
| |
| | | | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| | >
| |
| |
|
|
| Print houses have to have the font installed on their system as well. WEFT, if I recall will not let
| you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | sidebar;
|
| so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
| the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
| your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
|
|
|
| "Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| | | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| | protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| | IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| | overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| | install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| | trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| | extraneous objects.
| |
| | I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| | to.
| |
| | --
| | Cheryl D. Wise
| | MS FrontPage MVP
| | http://mvp.wiserways.com
| | http://starttoweb.com
| | Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| | Dreamweaver and more!
| | Next Session June 26th
| |
| | | | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| | >
| |
| |
|
|
T
Thomas A. Rowe
When I worked in a graphic organization and we sent our print files, the print house had to have a
license/installed version of every font that we used, so both the company and each print house that
we used, had to have the complete library of Adobe fonts installed.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
I think all fonts have that ability to restrict embedding. Yes, print houses have to have the font
installed but if they don't have it, they will ask for you to include it with the files. I'm just
kinda curious abt the legal aspect of it all...thought Cheryl would have some insight. I love
copyright/trademark laws.
| Print houses have to have the font installed on their system as well. WEFT, if I recall will not
let
| you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | sidebar;
|
| so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
| the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
| your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
|
|
|
| "Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| | | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| | protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| | IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| | overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| | install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| | trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| | extraneous objects.
| |
| | I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| | to.
| |
| | --
| | Cheryl D. Wise
| | MS FrontPage MVP
| | http://mvp.wiserways.com
| | http://starttoweb.com
| | Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| | Dreamweaver and more!
| | Next Session June 26th
| |
| | | | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| | >
| |
| |
|
|
license/installed version of every font that we used, so both the company and each print house that
we used, had to have the complete library of Adobe fonts installed.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
I think all fonts have that ability to restrict embedding. Yes, print houses have to have the font
installed but if they don't have it, they will ask for you to include it with the files. I'm just
kinda curious abt the legal aspect of it all...thought Cheryl would have some insight. I love
copyright/trademark laws.
| Print houses have to have the font installed on their system as well. WEFT, if I recall will not
let
| you use a font that has been set by it maker as restricted.
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | sidebar;
|
| so why would we run into issues with copyrights by wefting or downloading the font for use to view
| the page? fonts are passed along all the time in the print world so that a print house can print
| your document, and even on the internet...don't make me run off the the law library now...
|
|
|
| "Cheryl D Wise" <wiserways.wiserways.com> wrote in message
| | | Sort of but not really since IE and Netscape browsers don't use the same
| | protocol. Then you run into copyright problems. followed by the issue that
| | IE, Mac and Linux don't always support the same font types. Even if you
| | overcome those issues, your odds of getting a visitor to download and
| | install a font just to visit your webpage are slim. Too many viruses,
| | trojans, and other nastiest on the net that make people leery of downloading
| | extraneous objects.
| |
| | I have never downloaded a single font even though a few sites have asked me
| | to.
| |
| | --
| | Cheryl D. Wise
| | MS FrontPage MVP
| | http://mvp.wiserways.com
| | http://starttoweb.com
| | Online instructor led web design training in FrontPage,
| | Dreamweaver and more!
| | Next Session June 26th
| |
| | | | > so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| | >
| |
| |
|
|
K
KatWoman
Thanks to all of you for such informative replies. Coming from print design
to web design is quite a transition.
My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover and
Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF file.
As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to buy it? I
am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to use
the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic. I was
concerned about download times for all the graphics.
If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer users
to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to Arial. I
think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good default font for
Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme area?
(arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot simpler
to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the buttons
in my colors.
I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks especially
to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
These are the sites I made so far with FP:
http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being revised,
almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics" link
and some form validation errors, do you think the opening animation is too
large file? what font do you see?)
www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
to web design is quite a transition.
My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover and
Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF file.
As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to buy it? I
am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to use
the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic. I was
concerned about download times for all the graphics.
If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer users
to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to Arial. I
think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good default font for
Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme area?
(arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot simpler
to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the buttons
in my colors.
I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks especially
to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
These are the sites I made so far with FP:
http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being revised,
almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics" link
and some form validation errors, do you think the opening animation is too
large file? what font do you see?)
www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
K
KatWoman
thanks for the links Murray... very interesting ideas. I will wait on using
that until it's out of "beta" and I get more experience in using .css.
I guess I'm not the only graphic designer who would love to use more custom
fonts.
that until it's out of "beta" and I get more experience in using .css.
I guess I'm not the only graphic designer who would love to use more custom
fonts.
T
Tom Pepper Willett
Helvetica is the equiv. of Arial for MAC.
BTW, setting the default font in Arial in FP only shows in the design mode,
it does not show on the web. You would need to set your font by highlighting
the text and change the font properties to Arial, Helvetica .. or use CSS.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Thanks to all of you for such informative replies. Coming from print
design
| to web design is quite a transition.
|
| My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover and
| Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF
file.
| As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to buy it?
I
| am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
|
| I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to
use
| the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic. I was
| concerned about download times for all the graphics.
|
| If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer users
| to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to Arial. I
| think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good default font for
| Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme area?
| (arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
|
| I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot
simpler
| to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
| I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the
buttons
| in my colors.
|
| I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks
especially
| to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
|
| These are the sites I made so far with FP:
| http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being revised,
| almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics"
link
| and some form validation errors, do you think the opening animation is too
| large file? what font do you see?)
|
| www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
|
|
|
| | > There are several new ways evolving to do such things, but they are
still
| > 'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement technique' -
see,
| > for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
| >
| > http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
| >
| > or here -
| >
| > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
| >
| > or for "TIP" methods, see here:
| >
| > http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
| >
| > The latter is a quite interesting method.
| >
| > DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
| >
| > DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your time
| > and effort....
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | >> so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
BTW, setting the default font in Arial in FP only shows in the design mode,
it does not show on the web. You would need to set your font by highlighting
the text and change the font properties to Arial, Helvetica .. or use CSS.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
| Thanks to all of you for such informative replies. Coming from print
design
| to web design is quite a transition.
|
| My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover and
| Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF
file.
| As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to buy it?
I
| am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
|
| I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to
use
| the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic. I was
| concerned about download times for all the graphics.
|
| If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer users
| to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to Arial. I
| think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good default font for
| Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme area?
| (arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
|
| I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot
simpler
| to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
| I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the
buttons
| in my colors.
|
| I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks
especially
| to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
|
| These are the sites I made so far with FP:
| http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being revised,
| almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics"
link
| and some form validation errors, do you think the opening animation is too
| large file? what font do you see?)
|
| www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
|
|
|
| | > There are several new ways evolving to do such things, but they are
still
| > 'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement technique' -
see,
| > for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
| >
| > http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
| >
| > or here -
| >
| > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
| >
| > or for "TIP" methods, see here:
| >
| > http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
| >
| > The latter is a quite interesting method.
| >
| > DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
| >
| > DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your time
| > and effort....
| >
| > --
| > Murray
| > ============
| >
| > | >> so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
M
Murray
I was concerned about download times for all the graphics.
A worthy concern. You should also be concerned about removing what may be
extremely good 'spider food' from your page's content, thereby potentially
affecting your search engine ranking.
It's best to use a family of fonts, e.g., arial, helvetica, sans-serif,
rather than a single font specification. This one will catch those Macs
that do not have Arial....
A worthy concern. You should also be concerned about removing what may be
extremely good 'spider food' from your page's content, thereby potentially
affecting your search engine ranking.
It's best to use a family of fonts, e.g., arial, helvetica, sans-serif,
rather than a single font specification. This one will catch those Macs
that do not have Arial....
K
KatWoman
You should also be concerned about removing what may be
extremely good 'spider food' from your page's content, thereby potentially
affecting your search engine ranking.
what exactly should I remove? I have a script to prevent email harvesting I
was going to add.
I purposely loaded the description and metatags with a lot of 'search words"
I don't think that's what you meant. Why would that affect my search engine
ratings badly, I thought it would help people find it better.
extremely good 'spider food' from your page's content, thereby potentially
affecting your search engine ranking.
what exactly should I remove? I have a script to prevent email harvesting I
was going to add.
I purposely loaded the description and metatags with a lot of 'search words"
I don't think that's what you meant. Why would that affect my search engine
ratings badly, I thought it would help people find it better.
T
Thomas A. Rowe
Does the license for the font allow for the font to be installed on other computers? When a font is
embedded in a PDF, it is not installed on the user's machine that is viewing the PDF, however for
fonts to be viewed on a web page, then must be first downloaded and then installed onto the user's
PC that is viewing the page with them unless the user already has the font installed.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
embedded in a PDF, it is not installed on the user's machine that is viewing the PDF, however for
fonts to be viewed on a web page, then must be first downloaded and then installed onto the user's
PC that is viewing the page with them unless the user already has the font installed.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
M
Murray
Most (all?) search engines ignore meta tag content vis-a-vis page ranking,
since you can say anything you want in those tags without regard for the
page's actual content. By migrating page content away from text (i.e.,
spider-readable) to graphics (i.e., spider-opaque), you have effectively
removed that content from the page, hence removed it from any page ranking
consideration. See what I mean?
since you can say anything you want in those tags without regard for the
page's actual content. By migrating page content away from text (i.e.,
spider-readable) to graphics (i.e., spider-opaque), you have effectively
removed that content from the page, hence removed it from any page ranking
consideration. See what I mean?
K
KatWoman
I would say No I don't think the license would allow the font to be
downloaded from the website as I would then be distributing it for free.
But I my client bought it to use it for promo materials and that would
include the graphics on the website, they are not downloadable as a font. I
can not find any documentation of the rights anywhere in the file.
I only use PDF for actual printing of her pieces, I have no way of knowing
if the print shop installs the font or just uses what is inside the PDF. I
have not used PDF docs on any websites so far.
I am happy with the look of the main layout now and will just have to settle
for the body text to be whatever it will be for the viewer.
For better search results:
Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page? I
can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
way that would be better?
downloaded from the website as I would then be distributing it for free.
But I my client bought it to use it for promo materials and that would
include the graphics on the website, they are not downloadable as a font. I
can not find any documentation of the rights anywhere in the file.
I only use PDF for actual printing of her pieces, I have no way of knowing
if the print shop installs the font or just uses what is inside the PDF. I
have not used PDF docs on any websites so far.
I am happy with the look of the main layout now and will just have to settle
for the body text to be whatever it will be for the viewer.
For better search results:
Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page? I
can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
way that would be better?
T
Thomas A. Rowe
As long as you are creating a graphic, there is no issue with licensing.
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
T
Tom Pepper Willett
"For better search results:
Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page? I
can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
way that would be better?"
The search engines a long time ago caught on to the hidden text trick, and
consider it "spamming" the search engines. They know how to catch it, and
you will be delisted for using it.
The major search engines rely on the text in the body that they can see.
That's how the searches are generated. They rely very little, if at all, on
keywords in metatags. And, if they do use them, the keywords must match the
words you have in the text of your page.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
|I would say No I don't think the license would allow the font to be
| downloaded from the website as I would then be distributing it for free.
| But I my client bought it to use it for promo materials and that would
| include the graphics on the website, they are not downloadable as a font.
I
| can not find any documentation of the rights anywhere in the file.
|
| I only use PDF for actual printing of her pieces, I have no way of knowing
| if the print shop installs the font or just uses what is inside the PDF. I
| have not used PDF docs on any websites so far.
|
| I am happy with the look of the main layout now and will just have to
settle
| for the body text to be whatever it will be for the viewer.
|
| For better search results:
| Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page?
I
| can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
| way that would be better?
|
|
| | > Does the license for the font allow for the font to be installed on
other
| > computers? When a font is embedded in a PDF, it is not installed on the
| > user's machine that is viewing the PDF, however for fonts to be viewed
on
| > a web page, then must be first downloaded and then installed onto the
| > user's PC that is viewing the page with them unless the user already has
| > the font installed.
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | >> Thanks to all of you for such informative replies. Coming from print
| >> design to web design is quite a transition.
| >>
| >> My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover
and
| >> Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF
| >> file. As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to
| >> buy it? I am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
| >>
| >> I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to
| >> use the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic.
I
| >> was concerned about download times for all the graphics.
| >>
| >> If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer
| >> users to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to
| >> Arial. I think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good
| >> default font for Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme
area?
| >> (arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
| >>
| >> I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot
| >> simpler to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
| >> I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the
| >> buttons in my colors.
| >>
| >> I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks
| >> especially to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
| >>
| >> These are the sites I made so far with FP:
| >> http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being
revised,
| >> almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics"
| >> link and some form validation errors, do you think the opening
animation
| >> is too large file? what font do you see?)
| >>
| >> www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> There are several new ways evolving to do such things, but they are
| >>> still 'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement
| >>> technique' - see, for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
| >>>
| >>> http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
| >>>
| >>> or here -
| >>>
| >>>
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
| >>>
| >>> or for "TIP" methods, see here:
| >>>
| >>> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
| >>>
| >>> The latter is a quite interesting method.
| >>>
| >>> DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
| >>>
| >>> DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your
time
| >>> and effort....
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Murray
| >>> ============
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page? I
can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
way that would be better?"
The search engines a long time ago caught on to the hidden text trick, and
consider it "spamming" the search engines. They know how to catch it, and
you will be delisted for using it.
The major search engines rely on the text in the body that they can see.
That's how the searches are generated. They rely very little, if at all, on
keywords in metatags. And, if they do use them, the keywords must match the
words you have in the text of your page.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
|I would say No I don't think the license would allow the font to be
| downloaded from the website as I would then be distributing it for free.
| But I my client bought it to use it for promo materials and that would
| include the graphics on the website, they are not downloadable as a font.
I
| can not find any documentation of the rights anywhere in the file.
|
| I only use PDF for actual printing of her pieces, I have no way of knowing
| if the print shop installs the font or just uses what is inside the PDF. I
| have not used PDF docs on any websites so far.
|
| I am happy with the look of the main layout now and will just have to
settle
| for the body text to be whatever it will be for the viewer.
|
| For better search results:
| Do you think I should put some hidden text into the body of the HOME page?
I
| can type some black on black that the viewer cannot see? is there another
| way that would be better?
|
|
| | > Does the license for the font allow for the font to be installed on
other
| > computers? When a font is embedded in a PDF, it is not installed on the
| > user's machine that is viewing the PDF, however for fonts to be viewed
on
| > a web page, then must be first downloaded and then installed onto the
| > user's PC that is viewing the page with them unless the user already has
| > the font installed.
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > ==============================================
| > If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > http://support.microsoft.com
| > If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > ==============================================
| >
| > | >> Thanks to all of you for such informative replies. Coming from print
| >> design to web design is quite a transition.
| >>
| >> My client paid for use of the fonts she purchased them for a CD cover
and
| >> Promo materials. When I send a doc to print I send the font in the PDF
| >> file. As she has paid for it already why would the printer also have to
| >> buy it? I am also using the fonts in graphics I made for her sites.
| >>
| >> I didn't think the download font was good idea so my work around was to
| >> use the desired font on a custom button, thereby changing to a graphic.
I
| >> was concerned about download times for all the graphics.
| >>
| >> If I can't have her first choice of fonts in the body text, I prefer
| >> users to see Arial, not Times New Roman, I have it set to default to
| >> Arial. I think Mac computer users may not see that? What is a good
| >> default font for Mac users? I think I can specify that in the theme
area?
| >> (arial:tahoma;MACFONT)
| >>
| >> I have used themes but totally redesigned the graphics. FP is a lot
| >> simpler to learn than Dreamweaver and MM Flash.
| >> I used Photoshop and Image Ready to make the animation and re-do the
| >> buttons in my colors.
| >>
| >> I am learning a lot reading this NG, it's a great group!! thanks
| >> especially to the MS MVP's who have answered my noob questions.
| >>
| >> These are the sites I made so far with FP:
| >> http://d529182.u33.infinology.net/NewSC/index.html (still being
revised,
| >> almost ready, any critiques welcomed, I know about the broken "lyrics"
| >> link and some form validation errors, do you think the opening
animation
| >> is too large file? what font do you see?)
| >>
| >> www.laurabradley.com (site is completed and running, client loves it)
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> There are several new ways evolving to do such things, but they are
| >>> still 'beta' quality. Both are based on an 'image replacement
| >>> technique' - see, for example these links for "sIFR" methods:
| >>>
| >>> http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
| >>>
| >>> or here -
| >>>
| >>>
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/sifr_demo.html
| >>>
| >>> or for "TIP" methods, see here:
| >>>
| >>> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp
| >>>
| >>> The latter is a quite interesting method.
| >>>
| >>> DISCLAIMER: I have not use either commercially.
| >>>
| >>> DISCLAIMER2: You gotta really need to do this to make it worth your
time
| >>> and effort....
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Murray
| >>> ============
| >>>
| >>> | >>>> so that they download it? without changing it to a graphic.
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|