XP SP3 availability

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Gerry

Bear

What free disk space do you need to handle that size download?


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Gerry
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K

Kayman

To save hassle, I would disable before download. As long as you close
all other applications.

If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to disable
protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with these, the
download kept hanging at 99%.

Also, make sure there is enough space in System Restore.
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Thanks, will do....Cheers :)
 
B

Bruce Hagen

It probably will get a little busier in the OE groups when everyone starts
to get SP3. There is already a bug present. <eg> If you get the compact
prompt and say OK, the compacting hangs on Folders.dbx. I /already/ have a
canned reply for that.

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The counter
will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
 
G

Gerry

Thanks Bruce for your tip. In my own situation I never allow it to get
to the compact prompt.


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Gerry
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B

Bruce Hagen

YW, Gerry. I don't let it get to the prompt either. But I heard a rumor so I
set the reg count to 100 and closed OE. Sure 'nuff.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

The complete download is 316mb plus room for temp files so figure 2x the
size of the package. If you are fully patched then amount downloaded is
only 65mb so why don't you wait for Windows Update to offer it?
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Smirnoff said:
To save hassle, I would disable before download. As long as you close
all other applications.
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Not a good idea to disable anti-virus when you are downloading anything
from the net. When you are installing, that is when you should disable
AV because this is when you are likely to have problems.
If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to disable
protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with these, the
download kept hanging at 99%.
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Why not earth would anyone use these rubbish programs? I use Windows
defender and it is quite adequate for my purpose. Also, I avoid those
sordid sites which are the [main] source of spywares and viruses.
Also, make sure there is enough space in System Restore.
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Very good idea.
 
A

ANONYMOUS

Gerry said:
Hi Bruce

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
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Gerry,

The best judge of any installations is the user himself/herself. If you
don't try it yourself, you will never know whether these so called
problems are justified or not. I did not have any problems what so ever
and I am talking about not one system but 20 systems. I accept, I am a
very careful user who rarely visits those sordid sites or opens any
emails that appears to be dodgy. Therefore, my system is likely to be
free of any malwares or viruses.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Not a good idea to disable anti-virus when you are downloading anything
from the net. When you are installing, that is when you should disable AV
because this is when you are likely to have problems.
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Agreed, but that is provided you can Save and then install. When people
start to get SP3 from MU/WU it's an all-or-nothing situation. Getting it
from MU/WU, I would make sure no other programs are running and disable the
AV for the whole operation as it can't be done in two steps.

When SP2 came out the OE newsgroups were inundated with problems and 99.9%
were caused by downloading from WU either automatically, or manually, but
with the AV running.
 
G

Gerry

With SP2 the best way was the SP2 CD. The process is less susceptible to
problem. I may do that with SP3. I am in no hurry.


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Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

I made a CD from the ISO download from TechNet. Installed fine on all
machines that we put it on at work.

Tom
: With SP2 the best way was the SP2 CD. The process is less susceptible to
: problem. I may do that with SP3. I am in no hurry.
:
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: Gerry
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: FCA
: Stourport, England
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: ANONYMOUS wrote:
: > Gerry wrote:
: >
: >> Hi Bruce
: >>
: >>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
: >>
: >> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
: >> newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
: >>
: >>
: >>
: > Gerry,
: >
: > The best judge of any installations is the user himself/herself. If
: > you don't try it yourself, you will never know whether these so called
: > problems are justified or not. I did not have any problems what so
: > ever and I am talking about not one system but 20 systems. I accept,
: > I am a very careful user who rarely visits those sordid sites or
: > opens any emails that appears to be dodgy. Therefore, my system is
: > likely to be free of any malwares or viruses.
:
:
 
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Daave

ANONYMOUS said:
Smirnoff wrote:
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Why not earth would anyone use these rubbish programs? I use Windows
defender and it is quite adequate for my purpose.
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Do you have any evidence that SpywareBlaster and Spybot S&D are "rubbish
programs"? Unless they have changed, they are anything but. For all you
know, Windows Defender is a rubbish program!
 
W

WMB

Kayman said:
Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
installing only (after downloading)?
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Even if you have a problem installing, all is not lost. I used a little
program called "End It All" to close down everything that was running. I was
unable to download and install SP3 from the official update site, using
Microsoft Update. I enabled everything and tried again successfully. The
only problem I've discovered thus far is that it converted IE7 to IE6. When
I say enabled everything I mean Windows Defender, Windows Live One Care and
TrojanHunter Guard. Just to let you know, Maybe I was lucky.
 
S

Skip

The complete download is 316mb plus room for temp files so figure 2x the
size of the package. If you are fully patched then amount downloaded is
only 65mb so why don't you wait for Windows Update to offer it?
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Assuming you are updating one PC which is already patched, the Windows
Update solution is fine. But when you update multiple PCs in any given week,
including some ground-up installs of XP, having the full 300mb file already
downloaded on a USB flash drive is ideal. Using Microsoft's Update process
does things in far too many steps & reboots in my environment.
 

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