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It is still a beta and installing is not a good solution!

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
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Daniel

You still have not tried what I suggested?


Daniel

More information is needed!

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative.

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the boxes
before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the figures
for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?

What are your anti-virus and anti-spyware arrangements?

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in
the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
It is still a beta and installing is not a good solution!

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
 
That is not still a beta ot that it is not a good solution? Which?

How does your solution address the problem. At best it will make the
original problem less apparent. Far better to solve the original problem
and then get an extra benefit when any teething problems with SP3 are
resolved. You surely do not expect it to be all to be sweetness and
light when SP3 is released through Windows Update. Just read the
problems associated with the Vista SP1 update and you might land in the
real world.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
That is not still a beta ot that it is not a good solution? Which?
How does your solution address the problem. At best it will make the
original problem less apparent. Far better to solve the original problem
and then get an extra benefit when any teething problems with SP3 are
resolved. You surely do not expect it to be all to be sweetness and
light when SP3 is released through Windows Update. Just read the
problems associated with the Vista SP1 update and you might land in the
real world.
Click to expand...

To compare XP SP3 to Vista SP1 is like comparing English to !Kung.

My original suspicions were that the hard drive was getting old and
slowing down. He'd already tried what 99.9% of us would do: defrag. I
suggested JKDefrag as it is better. The OP is using Avast which is a
really good free AV solution and I believe him when he says his PC is
clean. Disabling startup items, as proposed by others, is not a good
solution, it's a band aide and doesn't solve anything save for freeing
up some RAM.

XPSP3 is more than just all the Windows Updates and some code culled
from Vista. There are hundreds of Knowledge Base fixes since SP2 that
*never* make it to Windows Update because they have to be requested
from Microsoft or through paid support. Those non-Windows Update KB
fixes are also included in SP3 so perhaps it will benefit the OP to
try SP3. If the OP does try it and the system is still *slow*, it's
probably the HD itself.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
 
Unfortunately, few users read the list of updates included in a new service
pack and don't realize that hot fixes are included not previously available
to the general public that have been tested sufficiently to be released for
general use through the SP.
 
PD43

You cannot get it yet through Windows Update. A non-beta is still not a
good solution for the reasons you snipped.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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The Major Geeks download appears to be the real deal. The site is reporting
heavy traffic and slow download times but I downloaded at around 750 KB/s to
check it out so I don't know what they mean by "slow."
 
Wolf

In a month or two it could be a good move. There are still things the
original OP has not tried.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Thee Chicago Wolf said:
Your post has caused a small furor.

How have you "verified it"?

I think I recall that you said that you are a Technet subscriber. Is
the Majorgeeks version the same as the one you have access to?
Click to expand...

Well for starters, there is the MD5 checksum. Same as mine from the
TechNet. It's the same bits. I used Win MD5 Sum to verify it:
bb25707c919dd835a9d9706b5725af58

- Thee Chicago Wolf
 
Thee said:
Daniel,

Jumped the gun a bit as after I pressed send I saw that you already
did a defrag. Try giving JKDefrag a shot as it is a lot better than
the default defrag built into XP. JKDefrag is free. And again, XP SP3
is right around the corner.

What is task manager showing as far as system resources go
(Performance tab, Physical Memory, total versus available)? BIOS up to
date? Driver up to date? HD might be getting long in the tooth and the
degradation in performance could be attributed to that.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
Click to expand...

What a cool defrager, I just saw Humpty Dumpty get put together again, good utility T. C. Wolf.

- WindPipe
 
What a cool defrager, I just saw Humpty Dumpty get put together again, good utility T. C. Wolf.
- WindPipe
Click to expand...

Glad you like it. Although a bit more thorough than the built-in XP
defrag util, it does better job in the end.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
 
Just downloaded it here and when I'm done playing with some other
stuff, I'll give it a run.

I've been using AusLogics disk defrag free version for quite some time
now and like it a lot.
Click to expand...

Aus is supposed to be a good defrag util as well. I like that the
author of JK is one of these programmers who likes to squeeze every
ounce or performance by uber tight code.

- Thee Chicago Wolf
 
Daniel said:
* Bob I wrote, On 23/04/2008 19:09:

Sorry, but I still don't understand what you mean by "find new hardware
to restore it to DMA".

Daniel
Click to expand...

In Device Manager, click the icon for "Scan for hardware changes"
 
* Bob I wrote, On 28/04/2008 16:37:
In Device Manager, click the icon for "Scan for hardware changes"
Click to expand...
I don't see an icon. R-clicking on primary ide device I do get the
choice "Scan for hardware changes".
It says then scanning for ... and nothing happens. No report.

Daniel
 
Daniel said:
* Bob I wrote, On 28/04/2008 16:37:

I don't see an icon. R-clicking on primary ide device I do get the
choice "Scan for hardware changes".
It says then scanning for ... and nothing happens. No report.

Daniel
Click to expand...

Please do this step by step,

IF it has reverted to PIO from DMA,

simply uninstall the channel,

and then,

"Scan for hardware changes"

,to restore it to DMA.
 
* Bob I wrote, On 28/04/2008 22:20:
Please do this step by step,

IF it has reverted to PIO from DMA,

simply uninstall the channel,

and then,

"Scan for hardware changes"

,to restore it to DMA.
Click to expand...
As I said I had two entries "Primary IDE channel": The first one was
listing DMA for device 0 and device 1. The second one was listing PIO
for device 0 and DMA for device 1. So I uninstalled the second one,
which of course disappeared. I R-clicked on the only remaining entry and
chopse "Scan for hardware changes". After rebooting the second entry
reappeared listing "ultra DMA mode 2" for both devices.
It doesn't feel though as if the slow behavior of XP has been improved.

Daniel
 
Daniel said:
* Bob I wrote, On 28/04/2008 22:20:

As I said I had two entries "Primary IDE channel": The first one was
listing DMA for device 0 and device 1. The second one was listing PIO
for device 0 and DMA for device 1. So I uninstalled the second one,
which of course disappeared. I R-clicked on the only remaining entry and
chopse "Scan for hardware changes". After rebooting the second entry
reappeared listing "ultra DMA mode 2" for both devices.
It doesn't feel though as if the slow behavior of XP has been improved.

Daniel
Click to expand...

Then that isn't the major cause of your slow behavior. You will need to
identify what else is running on the PC. On a clean running system,
reverting to PIO will make a noticiable "speed reduction". You may want
to go back and review the malware status of the PC.
 

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