XP Professional - multiple users?

[Jake]

I really like the Remote Desktop feature found in XP Pro (we have it
installed on our home computer and have a broadband connection with a static
IP address). My wife and I use it a lot when we are away from home,
however, there are times when she is at home using the computer and I am at
work and need to access a file from our home computer. She doesn't like
getting kicked off when I log in We would find it extremely useful if XP
Pro supported two users at the same time. I know that it is possible to set
up a Terminal Server using Windows 2003, but that is too costly for our
needs. Is there any possibility that Microsoft will have some sort of
"Terminal Server-Lite" for XP Pro? I understand that they need to keep
there products differentiated in order to encourage people to buy the right
product for their needs, but maybe by only supporting two simultaneous
users, they will still leave the market wide open for Server 2003.

-Jake

 

[purplehaz]

Remote desktop is only for accessing your computer when no one is using it.
In order for the person to keep using it try doing a remote assitance
connection instead of remote desktop. Remote assitance lets the host see
what the client is doing and does not log them off.
Or third party apps similar to remote desktop will do what you want.

 

[Jake]

I know that Remote Desktop is only really supposed to be used when nobody is
using the computer. I simply wish that Microsoft would consider the added
value of allow at least two simultaneous users on an XP Pro machine (one
local, one remote). That way home users would not need to install (and pay
for) the more expensive Terminal Server.

-Jake

 

[David Candy]

That the reason it isn't available. On Server two can log on (as admins) at a time.

 

[Jake]

Please Microsoft, consider the added value of allowing two people to use an
XP Pro machine at the same time. Either 1 remote user and 1 local user -or-
2 remote users -- Terminal-Server 'Lite' )


That the reason it isn't available. On Server two can log on (as admins) at
a time.

 

[purplehaz]

Would be nice, but don't hold your breath. )

Please Microsoft, consider the added value of allowing two people to use an
XP Pro machine at the same time. Either 1 remote user and 1 local user -or-
2 remote users -- Terminal-Server 'Lite' )


That the reason it isn't available. On Server two can log on (as admins) at
a time.
nobody I possible

 

[David]

I really like the Remote Desktop feature found in XP Pro (we have it
installed on our home computer and have a broadband connection with a
static IP address). My wife and I use it a lot when we are away from
home, however, there are times when she is at home using the computer
and I am at work and need to access a file from our home computer.
She doesn't like getting kicked off when I log in We would find it
extremely useful if XP Pro supported two users at the same time. I
know that it is possible to set up a Terminal Server using Windows
2003, but that is too costly for our needs. Is there any possibility
that Microsoft will have some sort of "Terminal Server-Lite" for XP
Pro? I understand that they need to keep there products
differentiated in order to encourage people to buy the right product
for their needs, but maybe by only supporting two simultaneous users,
they will still leave the market wide open for Server 2003.

-Jake

Search Google for VNC. It will aloow you to do what you need and it's
free.

--

David

"Due to Viewer dicretion...
Graphic violence is advised"

 

[Jake]

Hi David,

I have RealVNC (http://www.realvnc.com/) and love it. What I am looking for
is a way to have two people use the machine at the same time. (One
remote/one local -or- both remote).

Thanks!

-Jake

 

[David Candy]

Take your pirating elsewhere. It is against the eula. No one is going to help you pirate software.

Read it

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following rights
provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of
this EULA:

* Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Product on a single
computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer"). The Product may not be used
by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any
single Workstation Computer. You may permit a maximum
of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each
a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer to
utilize the services of the Product solely for File and
Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote
access (including connection sharing and telephony
services). The ten connection maximum includes any
indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
software or hardware which pools or aggregates
connections. Except as otherwise permitted by the
NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop
features described below, you may not use the Product
to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
executable software residing on the Workstation Computer,
nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display,
or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless
the Device has a separate license for the Product.

 

[Jake Rich]

Dear David,

Why did you send such a rude post? Who is talking about pirating software?
All I am asking if MSFT will ever support two, or more simultaneous users on
one XP Pro machine. Did I not make that clear from the beginning?

-Jake


Take your pirating elsewhere. It is against the eula. No one is going to
help you pirate software.

Read it

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following rights
provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of
this EULA:

* Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Product on a single
computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer"). The Product may not be used
by more than two (2) processors at any one time on any
single Workstation Computer. You may permit a maximum
of ten (10) computers or other electronic devices (each
a "Device") to connect to the Workstation Computer to
utilize the services of the Product solely for File and
Print services, Internet Information Services, and remote
access (including connection sharing and telephony
services). The ten connection maximum includes any
indirect connections made through "multiplexing" or other
software or hardware which pools or aggregates
connections. Except as otherwise permitted by the
NetMeeting, Remote Assistance, and Remote Desktop
features described below, you may not use the Product
to permit any Device to use, access, display or run other
executable software residing on the Workstation Computer,
nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display,
or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless
the Device has a separate license for the Product.

 

[J. R.]

Dear David Candy,

I am against piracy, too! I am simply asking whether MSFT will allow
more than one user to log onto an XP Pro machone in the future. I
think it would be great if at least two users could use the machine at
the same time (one local/one remote -or- two remote users). Sort of a
"Terminal Server-Lite".

I'm sorry if I did not make that clear. I am not looking to cheat the
system!

-Jake Rich

 

[David Candy]

No they won't. Because you have only paid for 1 XP not 2.. There is no technical issue it is only a business reason to do with getting x amount of dollars per XP.

It's not about what I think it's about what MS thinks. They want x dollars per XP from you.

 

[Jake Rich]

Maybe the could sell an "add-on" license option to support more than one
user on XP Pro.

-Jake


No they won't. Because you have only paid for 1 XP not 2.. There is no
technical issue it is only a business reason to do with getting x amount of
dollars per XP.

It's not about what I think it's about what MS thinks. They want x dollars
per XP from you.

 

[David Candy]

Try downloading Virtual PC from MS, they have a 30 day trial edition till they make it an MS product. See if you can get the Virtual PC to host your remote session. This is still piracy though. I don't know if it will work.

 

[Jake]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have also heard of "Winconnect" made by
Thinsoft (http://www.thinsoftinc.com/). It says it will allow (up to) 21
users on a single XP machine. How can those companies get away with selling
their software if it is considered to be piracy? It seems like MSFT would
come down on them like a ton of bricks.

-Jake


Try downloading Virtual PC from MS, they have a 30 day trial edition till
they make it an MS product. See if you can get the Virtual PC to host your
remote session. This is still piracy though. I don't know if it will work.

 

[purplehaz]

Just to clear it up a bit, piracy is when you obtain/create illegal software
and sell it / distribute it for profit or otherwise.
Using am illegal copy of software doesn't make you a pirate, your just using
an illegal copy.
Violating the ms eula does not make you a pirate(unless your
selling/distrubuting that supposed illegal software).
Companies selling software that let you connect more than one remote session
isn't piracy. MS lets you do that, they just want you to buy it from them.
IE: a server version of windows running terminal server, instead of buying
one xp pro box and winconnect.

 

[David]

No they won't. Because you have only paid for 1 XP not 2.. There is no
technical issue it is only a business reason to do with getting x
amount of dollars per XP.

David Candy, I use VNC to remotely adminstroe ny family's computers in
the background without having to force them to save there work as RD will
log them off. I can go in real quick, Update their Anti-Virus, Apply MS
patches and add entries to their Hosts file without causing to much
interuption. If this is Piract, Then I guess I'm a Pirate. I don't really
care. All the OS's on the machines is bought and paid for with a valid
license for each.

--

David

"Due to Viewer dicretion...
Graphic violence is advised"

 

[purplehaz]

David Candy, I use VNC to remotely adminstroe ny family's computers in
the background without having to force them to save there work as RD will
log them off. I can go in real quick, Update their Anti-Virus, Apply MS
patches and add entries to their Hosts file without causing to much
interuption. If this is Piract, Then I guess I'm a Pirate. I don't really
care. All the OS's on the machines is bought and paid for with a valid
license for each.

Remoting into a computer using vnc while a user is logged in(so technically
you both are using xp and the computer) IS NOT piracy. Those comments are
wrong.

 

[David Candy]

Shoil read your EULA. It would seem to not allow any other connections.

 

[David Candy]

"... nor may you permit any Device to use, access, display, or run the Product or Product's user interface, unless the Device has a separate license for the Product. "