XP pro critical failure (during boot)

J

jsgreenfield

Having a critical problem with my kids HP Pavilion a850y, XP Pro SP2
installed. Currently, it spontaneously reboots during the Windows
startup phase (progress bar still showing during OS load). No form of
safe mode is successful in loading.

My son tells me that he was using the computer, and it spontaneously
shut itself down. As he describes it, it did not just power down, or
go to bluescreen, but rather spontaneously went into a graceful
shutdown, indicating it was saving files.

I've tried opening the case, cleaning out the dust, reseating the one
card (a modem), reseating both DIMMs, then sequentially removing the
card, DVD drive, floppy drive, and the DIMMs (one at a time), and
finally changing the port to which the internal drive (SATA) is
connected. Nothing changes the basic behavior.

In case it's relevant, prior to this problem, I was never able to get
this machine quite right in terms of power management. (The system is
about 1.5 years old.) At the start, it was unreliable in terms of
invoking screen saver and automatically hibernating after defined
intervals, it later stopped hibernating ever, automatically. (It runs
in fast user swithcing mode, and I tried going into every account,
upgrading it to admin privileges, and resetting the power management
settings to be consistent -- to no avail).

Also, I could not get it to reliably follow the configuration for the
sleep button on the keyboard. i.e., I configure dit to hibernate, but
sometimes it would sleep, or do nothing, rather than hibernate, when
pressed.

Finally, I had occasional problems, and in recent months more freqent
problems, with the machine spontaneously booting immediately after
shutdown/hibernation.

No idea if these are relevant to the current problem, but in case it
rings bells for anyone, I figured I'd mention it.

Any insight or suggestions appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
R

Ron Martell

Having a critical problem with my kids HP Pavilion a850y, XP Pro SP2
installed. Currently, it spontaneously reboots during the Windows
startup phase (progress bar still showing during OS load). No form of
safe mode is successful in loading.

Bring up the Startup menu (the one with Safe Mode etc. on it) and look
for an item on the menu that says "Disable automatic restart on system
failure" or words to that effect and choose that option if it is
there.

That may just get you a "Blue Screen Of Death" STOP error message
instead of a restart but if so then the contents of the STOP error
message, including the STOP code, all 4 parameters, and any file or
module names mentioned will be a direct clue as to the underlying
cause of the problem.

Post the results back here. There may be some other things we can try
if this does not work.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
J

jsgreenfield

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't see any option of that ilk in the menu.
There's only:

Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt

and

Startup normally

Any other ideas/suggestions?

Jonathan
 
R

Ron Martell

Thanks. Unfortunately, I don't see any option of that ilk in the menu.
There's only:

Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt

and

Startup normally

Any other ideas/suggestions?

Jonathan
Do you have an actual Windows XP Installation CD? If your computer
came with Windows XP preinstalled and it is from one of the larger
manufacturers then it probably has a "System Recovery" disk (or hard
drive partition) rather than an installation CD. These usually won't
work for what I going to suggest.

If you do have an actual installation CD then boot your computer with
that and do a Repair Install of Windows XP as per the instructions at
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
J

jsgreenfield

This is a preinstall (with a recovery partition), though I should have
an installation CD around from an install on another system. I'll run
through the suggestions ont he website you provided and see if I can do
anything useful on this machine with the XP CD.

Thanks,

Jonathan
 
J

jsgreenfield

Well, I'm pleased to say that after nearly giving up, I managed to
recover this system.

Ended up getting another disk, beginning a new XP install. In that
process, chkdsk kicked in and fixed a lot of problems on the original
disk. (None appeared to relate to important files -- look like mostly
browser cache files.) Was then able to use PartitionMagic to correct a
few more errors, and reset the OS partition to be active. (Somehow, it
had been set inactive along the way with all the things I tried.) Was
finally able to boot. Proceeded to clone the disk with Ghost.

Only hitch is I'm not sure whether I managed to properly clone the
recovery partition. I can't get into the recovery mode with either
disk. But if something goes wrong, I figure I can use PM to reset the
recovery partition to be active/unhidden, and that ought to be
sufficient. (Of course, the point is to avoid using recovery, anyway.
Hopefully having a second drive will help to achieve that goal.)

Well, thanks for the help.

Jonathan
 

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