XP License question

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Brian

I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought for
evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP improves
the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If XP
does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd
computer.

Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?
 
B

Brian

I forgot to mention that I would unistall/install/reactivate the new copy of
XP upon verification.
 
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Shenan Stanley

Brian said:
I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just
bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to
see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely
slow for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd
plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for Windows XP
(varies with the type of Windows XP License you have - which you neglected
to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade, MSDN, etc.) this may or may
not be allowed.

If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is unused...
Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added limitation of having an
unattached upgradable to Windows XP product available as well is there.)

If you have an OEM license of Windows XP - no. It is non-transferrable. It
is tied to the first computer it was installed and activated upon.

If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given your question) - likely
you would have no issue - depending on your volume license agreement and/or
knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original reseller of
said new system. I do not know the details for that beyond what I have
said.

Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try it and
then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one in this public
newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise give you permission to
do this. As you can see from above - what you can/cannot do with said
Windows XP license will be determined by they type of license, if it is in
use anywhere else, etc.

From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to do. From
a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you don'tactivate it in
the 30 days you get before having to activate Windows XP - I would think -
that should be more than enough time for you to make your judgement call on
the speed of the machine.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have
downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be business
editions.
 
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

Colin Barnhorst said:
If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have
downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be business
editions.


What's a business edition of WinXP? I guess that would have to be Pro.
 
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Colin Barnhorst

XP Pro x64, XP Pro x86, and XP Tablet PC edition. It is shorter just say
"business" edition than all that.
 
W

WindPipe

Brian said:
I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought for
evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP improves
the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If XP
does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd
computer.

Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

You have 30 days of Windows XP usage before you need to activate. I guess this is
acceptable under the XP licence agreement before validation. You will get a better
performance using XP.

- WindPipe
 
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DL

I have to say my recently purchased, not particularly high end Vista
Business PC performs just fine, but then that might depend on what apps you
are running, its certainly no different to my XP pcs using Office
 
T

Twayne

If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have
downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be
business editions.

Shenan Stanley said:
Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for
Windows XP (varies with the type of Windows XP License you have -
which you neglected to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade,
MSDN, etc.) this may or may not be allowed.

If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is
unused... Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added
limitation of having an unattached upgradable to Windows XP product
available as well is there.) If you have an OEM license of Windows
XP - no. It is
non-transferrable. It is tied to the first computer it was installed
and activated upon. If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given
your question) -
likely you would have no issue - depending on your volume license
agreement and/or knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original
reseller of said new system. I do not know the details for that
beyond what I have said.

Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try
it and then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one
in this public newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise
give you permission to do this. As you can see from above - what
you can/cannot do with said Windows XP license will be determined by
they type of license, if it is in use anywhere else, etc.

From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to
do. From a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you
don'tactivate it in the 30 days you get before having to activate
Windows XP - I would think - that should be more than enough time
for you to make your judgement call on the speed of the machine.

There is no "business edition" of XP. It's Home or Pro, and that's it.




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--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
 
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Twayne

I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just
bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to
see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow
for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd plan on
buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

To put it simply: Techincally by license there can never be more than
one instance of XP installed at any one time on any one or more
computers. You can't even technically install it twice on the same
machine for a dual-boot situation, not that doing so would make any
sense.
So technically the answer to you question is, NO, you can not do it
without first uninstalling it from the other machine. I don't know why
people are making it sound so complex.

Further to that, if it's a Retail version, it'll install to another
machine fine. If it's an OEM version though, it's a crapshoot as to
whether it would be able to work on a different machine. It depends on
how much the OEM bastardized the OEM version. Some won't even begin to
install; others will seemingly install but not do so, and yet others
will actually install. So, it depends. If the keycode has OEM in it,
it is an OEM version.

HTH
--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
 
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Twayne

Brian said:
You have 30 days of Windows XP usage before you need to activate. I
guess this is acceptable under the XP licence agreement before
validation. You will get a better performance using XP.

- WindPipe

Not necessarily. There are way too many dependencies in both OS to make
such a blanket statement. That's assuming the drivers are present to be
able to install XP on the other machine, if it was delivered with Vista.

--
Regards,

Twayne

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;
OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement
www.openoffice.org
 
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Colin Barnhorst

The business editions of XP are XP Pro x86, XP Tablet, XP Pro x64, XP Pro
IA64 (Itanium processors), XP Pro N, and XP Pro K. These are called
business editions by Microsoft and the lifecycle support policy
distinguishes between business and consumer editions (XP Home, XP MCE, and
XP Starter). See:
http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=lifecycle
Only the business editions are eligible for downgrade rights as described in
the reference sheet for OEMs:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf


 
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Colin Barnhorst

Not true. When a user downgrades to XP he does so by installing XP from
media he owns and then when he activates he chooses to activate over the
phone rather than the internet. When he talks to an agent he states he is
downgrading from a Vista business edition preinstalled on his computer and
using a copy of XP already running on another of his computers. The agent
will then give him an activation code that will give him a second activation
of XP using the same XP product key.
 

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