XP home -> Pro

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ton de w

Hello,

I did have a laptop with XP pro thereon stolen - so probably I have a
licence for XP Pro.
Now I have a HP pavilion with XP Home - however I need to run remote
desktop (vnc no thanks too slow).
Can I upgrade to XP pro using my now-stolen laptop licence - I did buy
the laptop with license included after all - or it non-transferable?

How can I upgrade the XP home to XP Pro? I think we do have XP Pro
8-seat group license with 2 spare seats. So must have an install disk
somewhere.
Can I just boot the install disk and say upgrade and it will work out
fine?

TIA

Ton
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

The OEM Windows XP Professional license that was preinstalled on your stolen
laptop is non-transferable to a different computer. Since your laptop was stolen,
so was the license and it cannot be used again.

1. Purchase a conventional "Retail Upgrade Version" [boxed] of Windows XP Professional.
2. Uninstall your antivirus program.
3. Perform a backup of your important documents and files to a CD, DVD, or other backup media.
4. Disconnect all hardware peripheral devices, except the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
5. While running Windows XP Home, insert the Windows XP Pro CD in the drive and select
the default "Upgrade" setup option. [Do not select "New Installation"]
6. Visit the Windows Update site to download all the critical updates.
7. Reinstall your antivirus program, then defrag your hard drive.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Hello,
|
| I did have a laptop with XP pro thereon stolen - so probably I have a
| licence for XP Pro.
| Now I have a HP pavilion with XP Home - however I need to run remote
| desktop (vnc no thanks too slow).
| Can I upgrade to XP pro using my now-stolen laptop licence - I did buy
| the laptop with license included after all - or it non-transferable?
|
| How can I upgrade the XP home to XP Pro? I think we do have XP Pro
| 8-seat group license with 2 spare seats. So must have an install disk
| somewhere.
| Can I just boot the install disk and say upgrade and it will work out
| fine?
|
| TIA
|
| Ton
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

In
ton de w said:
Hello,

I did have a laptop with XP pro thereon stolen - so probably I have a
licence for XP Pro.

Well - if the license was for a bundled (OEM) copy of XP Pro, it was
permenantly linked to the computer with which it came, so maybe not. If it
was a non-OEM copy (retail, volume license, etc) then you may.
Now I have a HP pavilion with XP Home - however I need to run remote
desktop (vnc no thanks too slow).
Can I upgrade to XP pro using my now-stolen laptop licence - I did buy
the laptop with license included after all - or it non-transferable?
Nontransferable.

How can I upgrade the XP home to XP Pro? I think we do have XP Pro
8-seat group license with 2 spare seats. So must have an install disk
somewhere.
Can I just boot the install disk and say upgrade and it will work out
fine?

Much depends on whether you actually have a valid license...if you have a
volume license copy for 8 seats, sure. If all you had was the XP Pro that
came with your old computer, then no, you'd need to buy an upgrade copy.
 
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Steve N.

Carey said:
The OEM Windows XP Professional license that was preinstalled on your stolen
laptop is non-transferable to a different computer. Since your laptop was stolen,
so was the license and it cannot be used again.

1. Purchase a conventional "Retail Upgrade Version" [boxed] of Windows XP Professional.
2. Uninstall your antivirus program.
3. Perform a backup of your important documents and files to a CD, DVD, or other backup media.
4. Disconnect all hardware peripheral devices, except the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
5. While running Windows XP Home, insert the Windows XP Pro CD in the drive and select
the default "Upgrade" setup option. [Do not select "New Installation"]
6. Visit the Windows Update site to download all the critical updates.
7. Reinstall your antivirus program, then defrag your hard drive.

Good Lord! He has 2 available VL of Pro installs left. Why advise him to
go buy something he doesn't need?

I can't believe you.

Steve N.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

The OP should contact his company's IT department
regarding the installation of a Volume License version
of Windows XP Professional. Only after obtaining
proper authorization can he use the company's VL
version. The OP's statement:

"I think we do have XP Pro 8-seat group license with 2 spare seats.
So must have an install disk somewhere."

indicates the OP is likely not in a position to install the VL
version without the knowledge and express permission of the
person in charge of VL licensing compliance within his company.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
| > The OEM Windows XP Professional license that was preinstalled on your stolen
| > laptop is non-transferable to a different computer. Since your laptop was stolen,
| > so was the license and it cannot be used again.
| >
| > 1. Purchase a conventional "Retail Upgrade Version" [boxed] of Windows XP Professional.
| > 2. Uninstall your antivirus program.
| > 3. Perform a backup of your important documents and files to a CD, DVD, or other backup media.
| > 4. Disconnect all hardware peripheral devices, except the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
| > 5. While running Windows XP Home, insert the Windows XP Pro CD in the drive and select
| > the default "Upgrade" setup option. [Do not select "New Installation"]
| > 6. Visit the Windows Update site to download all the critical updates.
| > 7. Reinstall your antivirus program, then defrag your hard drive.
| >
|
| Good Lord! He has 2 available VL of Pro installs left. Why advise him to
| go buy something he doesn't need?
|
| I can't believe you.
|
| Steve N.
|
 
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Steve N.

Carey said:
The OP should contact his company's IT department
regarding the installation of a Volume License version
of Windows XP Professional. Only after obtaining
proper authorization can he use the company's VL
version. The OP's statement:

"I think we do have XP Pro 8-seat group license with 2 spare seats.
So must have an install disk somewhere."

indicates the OP is likely not in a position to install the VL
version without the knowledge and express permission of the
person in charge of VL licensing compliance within his company.

You assume much.

Steve N.
 
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ton de w

Steve said:
You assume much.

Steve N.
Well I might have a business case to use one of the spare lics. So I
could ask...
I have run into probs in the past with the differences with a fresh
install or update between different OSes, W98 -> XP for example.
So I was wondering if I had the appropriate licenses to hand if I could
use XP-pro, which could have been intended only for a fresh install, to
actually carry out an XP Home to XP Pro upgrade - without actually
backing up the data, reformatting the disk, installing XP Pro and
restoring the data and reinstalling the apps.
If I interpret the above correctly the answer appears to be yes, cos
the backup appears only to be needed as a precaution?
Also I am curious to know what an OP is in this context?
Ta for your input...
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

In
Steve N. said:
You assume much.

One is frequently required to infer, when the poster merely implies. If the
OP knew there was a valid XP Pro volume license available for use, why on
earth would he or she have posted in here to begin with?

And isn't this veering a bit off topic? Cary kindly volunteeered his time to
help out, and I don't see a similar effort from you; merely a somewhat rude
response to Cary. Play nice with the other kids. :)
 
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Steve N.

Lanwench said:
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One is frequently required to infer, when the poster merely implies.

Sometimes. It's probably better to ask for clarification.
If the
OP knew there was a valid XP Pro volume license available for use, why on
earth would he or she have posted in here to begin with?

Because the question was asking about doing an upgrade with it.
And isn't this veering a bit off topic?

I don't think so.
Cary kindly volunteeered his time to
help out, and I don't see a similar effort from you; merely a somewhat rude
response to Cary. Play nice with the other kids. :)

I didn't think it was particularly rude (trust me, I know how to be
rude) but it's really none of Carey's or anyone else's business how the
OP has access to a Volume License seat and Carey tends to infer that
perhaps it is not legitimate, he also regularly recommends that people
buy full retail XP licenses when there is no need to. How is that
helping out?

I didn't offer the OP advice in this thread because I saw that you
already gave the best advice.

Steve N.
 
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Steve N.

ton said:
Well I might have a business case to use one of the spare lics. So I
could ask...
I have run into probs in the past with the differences with a fresh
install or update between different OSes, W98 -> XP for example.
So I was wondering if I had the appropriate licenses to hand if I could
use XP-pro, which could have been intended only for a fresh install, to
actually carry out an XP Home to XP Pro upgrade - without actually
backing up the data, reformatting the disk, installing XP Pro and
restoring the data and reinstalling the apps.
If I interpret the above correctly the answer appears to be yes, cos
the backup appears only to be needed as a precaution?
Yes.

Also I am curious to know what an OP is in this context?
Ta for your input...

OP = Original Poster - you.

Steve N.
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

In
Steve N. said:
Sometimes. It's probably better to ask for clarification.

OK, but when one is volunteering *free* tech support in newsgroups, and
doing one's best, and has seen similar questions before, this may or may not
happen.
Because the question was asking about doing an upgrade with it.

Well, not specifically. The *original* question, to which Carey replied, was
not "Can I use my existing, valid volume license copy of XP Pro to upgrade
my XP Home workstation?"
I don't think so.

Oh, of course it is. I'm part of that veering, I freely confess.... :)
I didn't think it was particularly rude (trust me, I know how to be
rude) but it's really none of Carey's or anyone else's business how
the OP has access to a Volume License seat and Carey tends to infer
that perhaps it is not legitimate, he also regularly recommends that
people buy full retail XP licenses when there is no need to. How is
that helping out?

See above, regarding "free tech support" and "volunteering". To it, add
"don't look a gift horse in the mouth." Carey has provided invaluable
assistance to many people for quite some time, and your response to him
*was* impolite, especially as you were not yourself offering a correction or
a reply. It would be the responsibility of the OP to provide such a
correction....as nobody else, including yourself, has any possible way of
knowing the answer.
I didn't offer the OP advice in this thread because I saw that you
already gave the best advice.

Thanks for that, but then I have to wonder why you posted your inital reply
at all....and when you did, why you didn't yourself ask for clarification of
the OP's situation.

I'm sure your heart is in the right place, and I can see that you've also
replied to another message in this thread....but please remember that, like
you, others in this group hang out in here out of kindness and goodwill.
There is no guarantee of 100% accuracy, and there will sometimes be
incorrect assumptions based on vague descriptions by posters....we all do
our best, and that's best accomplished when we remain polite.

I think we can both agree to a "nuff said" on this - pax! See you around in
here.
 
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Steve N.

Lanwench said:
In


OK, but when one is volunteering *free* tech support in newsgroups, and
doing one's best, and has seen similar questions before, this may or may not
happen.



Well, not specifically. The *original* question, to which Carey replied, was
not "Can I use my existing, valid volume license copy of XP Pro to upgrade
my XP Home workstation?"

Sure it was. Two questions were asked:

1) "Can I upgrade to XP pro using my now-stolen laptop licence - I did
buy the laptop with license included after all - or it non-transferable?"

Answer: If it's OEM then no.

2) "How can I upgrade the XP home to XP Pro? I think we do have XP Pro
8-seat group license with 2 spare seats. So must have an install disk
somewhere.
Can I just boot the install disk and say upgrade and it will work out
fine?"

Answer: Yes.
Oh, of course it is. I'm part of that veering, I freely confess.... :)

No it is not off topic. Carey told the OP they needed to go out and buy
a new XP license (like he always does) and that is wrong. It is very
much on topic; it's about licensing and upgrading, which is what was asked.
See above, regarding "free tech support" and "volunteering". To it, add
"don't look a gift horse in the mouth."

Free tech support is less than worthless if it winds up costing someone
money needlessly.
Carey has provided invaluable
assistance to many people for quite some time,

I am well aware of Carey's activity here.
and your response to him
*was* impolite,

Golly gosh, gee-wiz, I'm sorry. 50 lashes with a wet noodle coming to me.
especially as you were not yourself offering a correction or
a reply.

I corrected Carey's ill-advice.
It would be the responsibility of the OP to provide such a
correction....as nobody else, including yourself, has any possible way of
knowing the answer.

The OP questions were clear, as were the answers. The only aspect that
popped up unanswered was Carey's concern that the OP may have come into
possession a VL seat illegitimately.
Thanks for that, but then I have to wonder why you posted your inital reply
at all....and when you did, why you didn't yourself ask for clarification of
the OP's situation.

Nothing needed clarifying until Carey replied to me. As I stated, it's
none of his business how the OP came to have a VL seat; if it's a valid
license it will work. Instead he was assuming that it was obtained
illegitimately.
I'm sure your heart is in the right place,

Yep, right in the middle of my chest. :)
and I can see that you've also
replied to another message in this thread....but please remember that, like
you, others in this group hang out in here out of kindness and goodwill.
There is no guarantee of 100% accuracy, and there will sometimes be
incorrect assumptions based on vague descriptions by posters....we all do
our best, and that's best accomplished when we remain polite.

Thanks mom. :)
I think we can both agree to a "nuff said" on this - pax! See you around in
here.

Take care.

Steve N.
 

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