Business. XP has to many distractions installed that require removal beforespazzy said:I wonder when Microsoft is going to produce an operating system for
Business. XP has to many distractions installed that require removal beforespazzy said:I wonder when Microsoft is going to produce an operating system for
Why can't we just have a secure platform to run programs on, instead ofMike said:Business. XP has to many distractions installed that require removal before
it can be deployed in an office setting. Some of it is extremely difficult
to remove or disable ... PLUS I shouldn't have to ... they should all not
exist or be an optional install. XP great for home users .. a pain for the
office.
Spazzy,
We have a huge number of Windows XP Deployments done for offices - I am
currently deploying another 6000 seats (as well as Server 2003, Exchange
2003, SMS 2003 and MOM).
You can change the UI back to Windows 2000 Classic mode, if your issues are
either the UI look and feel.
As regards "distractions " - pretty much every aspect of the Windows XP
desktop experience can be tailored and controlled via group policy as well
as the actual customization of deployment.
Did you look at and understand the power of GPOs and have you built you own
customized install ?
Kevin Ratcliffe said:Why can't we just have a secure platform to run programs on, instead of
a "Windows XP desktop experience". I have a default install of xp and
an installation of office which comes to over 3gig of hard disk space used.
Kev
I believe that is very much a matter of opinion!Mike said:Kevin,
You have hit the nail on the head directly - as you said "...I have a
default install of xp and an installation of office which comes to over
3gig... " - no one in the corporate arena uses a default install. You
always customize it to meet there specific requirements for security,
functionality and manageability/control of the environment. This is why the
setup process is so configurable and controllable.
Are there any instructions on the web, where I can find out how to do aYou can have pretty much whatever you want on a Windows XP deployment and
Windows XP SP1a plus the latest fixes or SP2 is an extremely secure
platform.
No sysadmin in their right mind would allow executable attachments inBUT
Remember the best strategy is defence in depth, so you can layer protection
and security around your machine and into your environment, add to that
proper training and education and you can achieve great levels of security
and control.
I agree!
Did my corporate customers get hit by Nachi, Welchia, Blaster Sobig, MyDoom
or Swen - No. Do my users receive SPAM e-mails or e-mail with unauthorized
attachments - No.
Tell that to 1500 students aged 16-18.addresses in public or to open an attachment from an unknown source - of
course.
I suppose thats easy when you have massive resources. What about us, 2Yes. Is the desktop completely managed and controlled - Yes. Is there a
proper patch management solution and technology to ensure all systems are up
to date - absolutely.
As long as all the hardware is the same, you can do that with Norton GhostCan a dead desktop be swapped out and a bare metal machine redeployed and
all the users settings and applications recovered to it in a short space of
time - yes.
</doctrine>All this and more done using Windows XP and the Microsoft Server System,
delivering secure, stable, managed and functionally rich desktop and server
experiences.
But you've got to admit that it did sound like and advertisment.Mike said:Kevin,
Full documentation on how to do customized installs using the appropriate
answer files and tools is available on the Windows XP CD ROM in the
Deploy.cab file as well as numerous articles on TechNet (available online
at - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/default.mspx one link that may be of
value is
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/deploy/default.mspx
Don't forget to see and read all the additional resources listed at the
bottom section of that page.
See also
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/desktop/default.asp
Again massive amounts of information on deployment planning and
implementation of Windows XP in your environment
If you're still unable to produce a fully customized build for your
environment then you may wish to take expert advice and consultancy from one
of our certified partners.
In the UK these can be located via -
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/experts/default.mspx Thanks for the links.
As regards a couple of your other comments
- you can still do the desktop swap out without third party products and
with dissimilar hardware (again all just base functionality in Windows XP
and the Windows Server System)
Not doctrine - actually real world usage and deployment experience for
clients.
It really does sound like a lot of work, just to get a desktop to runFinally, Windows XP is a complete desktop platform and irrespective of us
shipping it to install by default a more feature rich experience or not, you
would still be required to use the tools, technology and information
(mentioned above) to produce a "standard" build that meets your
requirements. So the starting point is irrelevant as you never perform an
install and then try and configure - you build your install to closely match
your requirements and then if needs be, configure it and implement
additional levels of security through technologies such as Group Policy via
Active Directory etc.
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