x700pro vivo ati card problem with vhs video-in encoding.

[DDC]

x700pro vivo ati card problem with vhs video-in encoding.

I'm trying to record my video family on my computer but i cant get my
signal from my vhs video player it's a slv-n51. It has on the back 3
female out put like RCA plugs. So i guess it's s-video component.

Now the problem. I'm trying to get the signal from the vhs but it
doesn't seem to send any signal to my x700pro VIvo card. This is very
frustrating at the moment. So now i've uninstalled my mmc and i'm
trying to get it work with Nero burning. But even with Nero i don't
get any signal just like Nero tells me. I'm wondering if the card is
defect or my vhs cant get out any s-video signal.

I've try movie maker from windows media and same thing no signal. But
if i plug in a usb port my digital "picture" camera it work "in a usb
port not on the video card". So now i'm lost and i would like at least
what i should do write. like installation or some tweaks that ati
don't tell to get their product working for good.

 

[patrickp]

x700pro vivo ati card problem with vhs video-in encoding.

I'm trying to record my video family on my computer but i cant get my
signal from my vhs video player it's a slv-n51. It has on the back 3
female out put like RCA plugs. So i guess it's s-video component.

3 RCA plugs are probably composite video (not s-video) and left &
right audio channels. They should be labelled; if not, RTFM - you
should be able to download one if you don't have it. There should
also be SCART sockets (we usually have them in Europe, anyway) for
which you would need to buy a lead with appropriate output plugs -
often the best way to go.

Now the problem. I'm trying to get the signal from the vhs but it
doesn't seem to send any signal to my x700pro VIvo card. This is very
frustrating at the moment. So now i've uninstalled my mmc and i'm
trying to get it work with Nero burning. But even with Nero i don't
get any signal just like Nero tells me. I'm wondering if the card is
defect or my vhs cant get out any s-video signal.

I've try movie maker from windows media and same thing no signal. But
if i plug in a usb port my digital "picture" camera it work "in a usb
port not on the video card". So now i'm lost and i would like at least
what i should do write. like installation or some tweaks that ati
don't tell to get their product working for good.

Patrick

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[DDC]

it is a Sony brand.

3 RCA plugs are probably composite video (not s-video) and left &
right audio channels. They should be labelled; if not, RTFM - you
should be able to download one if you don't have it. There should
also be SCART sockets (we usually have them in Europe, anyway) for
which you would need to buy a lead with appropriate output plugs -
often the best way to go.

Patrick

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Should i be ok if i use the bundle offer in the box of my vivo card.

I'M using the cord that has 3 different's colors like bleu, red, and
green.
These tree wire are attach to the connector that has 9 male pins.
all this connected to the s-video/composite video in/out.

Should this be ok or should i get some new piece of equipment to
convert the signal from analog to digital????$%%#.

 

[patrickp]

it is a Sony brand.


Should i be ok if i use the bundle offer in the box of my vivo card.

I'M using the cord that has 3 different's colors like bleu, red, and
green.
These tree wire are attach to the connector that has 9 male pins.
all this connected to the s-video/composite video in/out.

Should this be ok or should i get some new piece of equipment to
convert the signal from analog to digital????$%%#.

Does the cord terminate with RCA plugs or sockets? If so that sounds
like it. Very often, ATI and OEM leads have arrows moulded into the
plugs to indicate which way round it is: for capture, of course, the
arrows should point towards the card.

Are the colours actually blue, red and green? Most ATI leads I've
seen use red and black/white for audio and yellow for composite video.
Better check which is which before using it.

No, you don't need anything to convert the signal from analog to
digital: in it's essence, that's what the capture process is.

Patrick

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[T Shadow]

Does the cord terminate with RCA plugs or sockets? If so that sounds
like it. Very often, ATI and OEM leads have arrows moulded into the
plugs to indicate which way round it is: for capture, of course, the
arrows should point towards the card.

Are the colours actually blue, red and green? Most ATI leads I've
seen use red and black/white for audio and yellow for composite video.
Better check which is which before using it.

No, you don't need anything to convert the signal from analog to
digital: in it's essence, that's what the capture process is.

Patrick

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Sounds like the OP is trying to connect to an output but then I was cruising
through the Knowledge Base and saw this. Thought it might apply.

Video input does not work (shows black screen) on certain VIVO products
The information in this article applies to the following
configuration(s):
a.. RADEON VIVO products, based on RADEON X700 Series and higher
b.. CATALYST 5.3
c.. CATALYST 5.4
d.. Windows 2000
e.. Windows XP
With a configuration noted above, it has been found that the VIDEO-IN
functionality does not work as expected. Video applications, such as
Multimedia Center may show a black or blank screen in the video window.

To correct this issue, download and install Catalyst 5.5 display
drivers or higher.

Hope this helps.

 

[patrickp]

Sounds like the OP is trying to connect to an output but then I was cruising
through the Knowledge Base and saw this. Thought it might apply.

Video input does not work (shows black screen) on certain VIVO products
The information in this article applies to the following
configuration(s):
a.. RADEON VIVO products, based on RADEON X700 Series and higher
b.. CATALYST 5.3
c.. CATALYST 5.4
d.. Windows 2000
e.. Windows XP
With a configuration noted above, it has been found that the VIDEO-IN
functionality does not work as expected. Video applications, such as
Multimedia Center may show a black or blank screen in the video window.

To correct this issue, download and install Catalyst 5.5 display
drivers or higher.

Hope this helps.

Interesting, T Shadow - so which Catalyst driver are you using, DDC?

Patrick

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[Hukuis]

It's not working because he's trying to use a component video adapter
with RCA Composite outs... the adapter for his card has component
input. He is connecting this to a composite output and two audio
outputs. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any VHS unit uses
component video, it's a DVD and HDTV thing.

 

[T Shadow]

It's not working because he's trying to use a component video adapter
with RCA Composite outs... the adapter for his card has component
input. He is connecting this to a composite output and two audio
outputs. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any VHS unit uses
component video, it's a DVD and HDTV thing.

That's what I thought. I assume if the X700 is a VIVO it would have the same
purple breakout box for input that my AIWs and HDTV Wonder came with. He
wouldn't be the first one to get input and output connectors mixed up. The
ball is in his court.

 

[DDC]

Sounds like the OP is trying to connect to an output but then I was cruising
through the Knowledge Base and saw this. Thought it might apply.

Video input does not work (shows black screen) on certain VIVO products
The information in this article applies to the following
configuration(s):
a.. RADEON VIVO products, based on RADEON X700 Series and higher
b.. CATALYST 5.3
c.. CATALYST 5.4
d.. Windows 2000
e.. Windows XP
With a configuration noted above, it has been found that the VIDEO-IN
functionality does not work as expected. Video applications, such as
Multimedia Center may show a black or blank screen in the video window.

To correct this issue, download and install Catalyst 5.5 display
drivers or higher.

Hope this helps.

I'm using the 5.7 version of the video driver. Every thing is setup to
work ok update, and plug-ins too.
I would love too read about that problem on the x700 series. Do you
still have the link...

ty

 

[DDC]

If i got no signal like a black screen it maybe like you said, i hope
not.

Interesting, T Shadow - so which Catalyst driver are you using, DDC?

the 5.7 version. My in the bundle it come with the cd witch has the
5.6 or the 5.7 But one thing is sure it's not the 5,3 or ,4.

 

[DDC]

Does the cord terminate with RCA plugs or sockets? If so that sounds
like it. Very often, ATI and OEM leads have arrows moulded into the
plugs to indicate which way round it is: for capture, of course, the
arrows should point towards the card.

It's RCA like at the back of my video.

Are the colours actually blue, red and green? Most ATI leads I've
seen use red and black/white for audio and yellow for composite video.
Better check which is which before using it.

yes it is, And i've found out that there is a way " an arrow is on the
cable pointing outside of my computer. "away from the video card."

No, you don't need anything to convert the signal from analog to
digital: in it's essence, that's what the capture process is.

Thank you it really help, now it would be nice if i had exactly the
same cable but with an arrow pointing at the card.

Are all the component for video output in the bundle?
i better check that, next time.

Grrr ati.

 

[DDC]

It's not working because he's trying to use a component video adapter
with RCA Composite outs... the adapter for his card has component
input. He is connecting this to a composite output and two audio
outputs. Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any VHS unit uses
component video, it's a DVD and HDTV thing.

Could you be pointing to a solution? I'm not the expert here. So
what's the fuzz about the component output and the composite one and
the s-video one too. On my Sony slv-n51 VHS cassette player there is
tree like RCA output and 3 input witch i know there is a function for
itch on, red white and yellow. At the moment i got an extent ion witch
has tree cables with male ""socket" at the end. So i'm trying to use
my video card with what i got in my hand. The second reason that i use
that cable is: I'm not familiar with composite, component and s-video
cable. So I've seen that in the bundle there was a tree RCA cable a
red a bleu and a green one all connected to a "composite plug if i
recall".

 

[patrickp]

It's RCA like at the back of my video.


yes it is,

Ok, you said in another post that they're red, white and yellow, so
we're cool on that: the yellow is the composite video, and the red
and white are, respectively, right and left audio channels.

And i've found out that there is a way " an arrow is on the
cable pointing outside of my computer. "away from the video card."



Thank you it really help, now it would be nice if i had exactly the
same cable but with an arrow pointing at the card.

Are there no other cables with the card? The most usual input adapter
is one that plugs into the card's s-video socket and terminates in a
box at the other end, which has two s-video sockets and two RCA
sockets. The s-video sockets really are for s-video; one is in and
one is out: similarly the two RCA sockets are composite video in and
out. They should all be labelled. With a VIVO card, the audio
connectors plug straight into your soundcard's input(s).

As T Shadow says, the adapter of this type that comes with an AIW is
usually purple; VIVO ones are often black.

Are all the component for video output in the bundle?
i better check that, next time.

Grrr ati.

However, despite what other posters have said, you _do_ also get input
adapters along the lines of the ouput one you've been trying to use.
The way to tell is, as you've discovered, to look at the arrows
moulded into the plugs.

You should have got some kind of input adapter with the card. You
should go back to whoever you got the card from if you didn't.

If that's a problem, you should be able to buy an adapter: if you're
in North America, you can buy direct from the ATI online shop.
Probably best to look specifically for VIVO adapters; my experience
has been that AIW adapters don't always work on VIVO cards: I don't
know why.

ATI also recommend this site,
http://www.videocapturecard.com/radeon2.html, for non-North American
users. I notice the second item down on the page I've referenced is a
combination input/output VIVO adapter.

Patrick

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[T Shadow]

Could you be pointing to a solution? I'm not the expert here. So
what's the fuzz about the component output and the composite one and
the s-video one too. On my Sony slv-n51 VHS cassette player there is
tree like RCA output and 3 input witch i know there is a function for
itch on, red white and yellow. At the moment i got an extent ion witch
has tree cables with male ""socket" at the end. So i'm trying to use
my video card with what i got in my hand. The second reason that i use
that cable is: I'm not familiar with composite, component and s-video
cable. So I've seen that in the bundle there was a tree RCA cable a
red a bleu and a green one all connected to a "composite plug if i
recall".

What country are you in so were sure of what were dealing with? This page
shows the connectors we've been talking about.
http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp
The composite at the bottom is white. Don't know if that's because it's an
Australian site but in the US they are always yellow and almost always are
with a white and red (l/r audio) connectors. VIVO cards don't have component
inputs, only outputs(if so equipped). If you have something different let us
know. AFAIK any inputs will be in a break out box that's separate from the
bundle with the connector for your monitor.

Links don't seem to work very well on the new website. Just go to the
Customer Care page then click on Solve Problem then Multimedia. Page through
it and read anything that looks interesting.

 

[T Shadow]

However, despite what other posters have said, you _do_ also get input
adapters along the lines of the ouput one you've been trying to use.
The way to tell is, as you've discovered, to look at the arrows
moulded into the plugs.

Didn't know ATI went to the expense of making a different layout for the
VIVO.

 

[patrickp]

Didn't know ATI went to the expense of making a different layout for the
VIVO.

I don't know why, T Shadow. Maybe it has something to do with audio
being connected through the soundcard rather than the videocard,
although I still don't really see why there should be a different
layout.

I have an adapter in my hand ATM that's for a VIVO card: an s-video
type plug that goes into the card, and from this there are four leads:
one composite video in and one out, and one s-video in and one out.

I've also got both VIVO and AIW type regular adapters (with the box
termination) - perhaps I should put a meter on them and see what the
difference is.

Patrick

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[DDC]

Should i be ok if i use the bundle offer in the box of my vivo card.

Ok, you said in another post that they're red, white and yellow, so
we're cool on that: the yellow is the composite video, and the red
and white are, respectively, right and left audio channels.


Are there no other cables with the card? The most usual input adapter
is one that plugs into the card's s-video socket and terminates in a
box at the other end, which has two s-video sockets and two RCA
sockets. The s-video sockets really are for s-video; one is in and
one is out: similarly the two RCA sockets are composite video in and
out. They should all be labelled. With a VIVO card, the audio
connectors plug straight into your soundcard's input(s).

As T Shadow says, the adapter of this type that comes with an AIW is
usually purple; VIVO ones are often black.

However, despite what other posters have said, you _do_ also get input
adapters along the lines of the ouput one you've been trying to use.
The way to tell is, as you've discovered, to look at the arrows
moulded into the plugs.

That would have been kind from ati to do so. Here there is only output
cable and one bi-directional composite cable with i cant use because
my vhs don't have the 9pins connector.

You should have got some kind of input adapter with the card. You
should go back to whoever you got the card from if you didn't.

If that's a problem, you should be able to buy an adapter: if you're
in North America, you can buy direct from the ATI online shop.
Probably best to look specifically for VIVO adapters; my experience
has been that AIW adapters don't always work on VIVO cards: I don't
know why.

ATI also recommend this site,
http://www.videocapturecard.com/radeon2.html, for non-North American
users. I notice the second item down on the page I've referenced is a
combination input/output VIVO adapter.

Patrick

<[email protected]> - take five to email me...

Well thank for the link.


Now it's certain that i can't get my videos on my pc. I got to get me
the write cable, witch is pretty much expensive. that is the one i was
using http://www.videocapturecard.com/x800prohdtv.html it couldn't do
the job because of it's output use only. Strangly in your reply you've
said that i should have some little box that has all of the composite
ands rca in and out. In my bundle it wasn't there... After reading on
the box nop that is not include. So my next guess would be to get me
that cable. http://www.videocapturecard.com/prosvideo6.html There is
just one thing on that web site that make me suspicius. They dont say
explicitaly video in/out use, just bi-directional cables. Will that
kind of cable be able to send a video signal in my videocard to be
able to record my video family?

 

[DDC]

What country are you in so were sure of what were dealing with? This page
shows the connectors we've been talking about.
http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp
The composite at the bottom is white. Don't know if that's because it's an
Australian site but in the US they are always yellow and almost always are
with a white and red (l/r audio) connectors. VIVO cards don't have component
inputs, only outputs(if so equipped). If you have something different let us
know. AFAIK any inputs will be in a break out box that's separate from the
bundle with the connector for your monitor.

Links don't seem to work very well on the new website. Just go to the
Customer Care page then click on Solve Problem then Multimedia. Page through
it and read anything that looks interesting.

I'm from Canada.

 

[patrickp]

That would have been kind from ati to do so. Here there is only output
cable and one bi-directional composite cable with i cant use because
my vhs don't have the 9pins connector.

Can you give a description of your 'bi-directional composite cable?' I
would have thought that the 9 pin connector is the end that plugs into
your card.

Well thank for the link.


Now it's certain that i can't get my videos on my pc. I got to get me
the write cable, witch is pretty much expensive. that is the one i was
using http://www.videocapturecard.com/x800prohdtv.html it couldn't do
the job because of it's output use only.

That's right, you can't use that for input.

Strangly in your reply you've
said that i should have some little box that has all of the composite
ands rca in and out. In my bundle it wasn't there... After reading on
the box nop that is not include.

No, the box connector is a common accessory, but doesn't necessarily
come with all capture cards. You should have got some kind of input
adapter, though. I would presume it's the one you describe as
'bi-directional composite cable, ' with a 9 pin terminator. But, as I
said above, the 9 pin end should be for connecting to the card. Look
at what you've got at the other end of that lead with an arrow
pointing towards the card, and look for a lead that will connect that
to yout VCR.

So my next guess would be to get me
that cable. http://www.videocapturecard.com/prosvideo6.html There is
just one thing on that web site that make me suspicius. They dont say
explicitaly video in/out use, just bi-directional cables. Will that
kind of cable be able to send a video signal in my videocard to be
able to record my video family?

No, that's another output lead. I don't have time now, but I'll take
a look at some of the sites this evening - in the meantime, please
post a description of your 'bi-directional composite cable.'

Patrick

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