Would Like LOG file to Record Shutdown

[Wesley Vogel]

Hi Gerry,

Would copying hidserv.dll to the System32 folder work or is the solution
more involved?

Try it. ;-) That's what I would have to do.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes

Same here but there are some keys on my Wireless Keyboard which do not
work. Not that that has bothered me to date.

Would copying hidserv.dll to the System32 folder work or is the solution
more
involved?

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Gerry,

hidserv.dll is probably not in %SystemRoot%\System32

Mine isn't, it's in %SystemRoot%\System32\dllcache.

I just set HID to Manual and hit the Start button and got...

---------------------------
Services
---------------------------
Could not start the Human Interface Device Access service on Local
Computer.

Error 126: The specified module could not be found.
---------------------------

I already know why it wasn't found.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes

Just tried to Start mine and got an Error 126!

Spent 30 mins earlier this evening trying to figure out why an Error 126
arose
for Web Client Service to answer a question but could not find the
answer?

Any thoughts on either?

--

Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ (Service
Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio
Service.
Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes
to shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals
are not connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device
Class
Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are Connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra
buttons
that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of
yours
magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic. Namely,
scanners with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an "Internet"
keyboard with volume
or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer
function. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
depend on it will fail to
start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with volume
and play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons. I don't
have any of
these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer
function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on
other
services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it breaks
anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the system
hotkeys
that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this service, they are built
into
the core OS. Control C, for example, to copy and Control V to past, do
not stop working when you turn this service off. It seems this has more
to do with specific hotkeys that a software vendor may want to insert
into their installed program or internet product. Until you see a
reason for it, I'd turn this one off.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've
got Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been
getting
since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old
MS Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got
my Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u
ever find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

:

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation
service), Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work
right. Or if Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any names
in the User Name column in Task Manager. Or if you disable the
Indexing Service, your machine runs better. Or if you disable the
DHCP Client service you cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to previously
because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even the default
settings for Services listed in Help & Support are still wrong. I've
gotten these settings by doing a fresh install of both XP Home and
Pro and exporting the Services configuration as a .csv file.]]
TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never
would
have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other setting
except
Disable. Do u know of a GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can
refer
to as to suggestions for these Settings. I read the explanations
for
these Services and many go right over my head. Between my
girlfriend and I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those
that didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer
eh? Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only
Disables. Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...

:

Disable the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. It is only needed when
using
XP's inbuilt CD burning application. If you use any 3rd party CD
burning software, IMAPI.EXE does not need to run, ever. It can
cause
conflicts. I have Nero and have IMAPI disabled.

I know nothing about Acronis.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Gerry! I have Nero 6.6.0.18 installed that came with my Asus
P5WD2
Premium MB installed Dec05. I've never used it. I was using
Roxio but after reading comments on Roxio causing hangs, which I
was experiencing, I removed it thoroughly, every reg entry. I was
planning, within hours, to buy the new Nero.

Something possibly relevant I noticed the other night: I bought
Acronis V10 the True Image program, I have to wait 40 mins for it
to
get through a hang before it starts. I've completed a Report for
the Acronis Techs but haven't heard of their finds yet.

I'm suspicious, the IMAPI Warnings and Acronis Hangs are related.
Maybe not but I recently noticed I got an IMAPI Warning at the
very same time I started Acronis. More work required as I
couldn't immediately repeat it.

Now, to answer your question: Yes! LOL ...


:

Edna

Are you using Nero software?

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wes I'm so sorry time didn't permit me to respond as I should
have
and wanted
very much to do. I came here so often to continue and something
else would
prevent me from concentrating on this.
I did switch my AV from NAV to Zone Alarm Security Suite and
find
now that
the only Warning I'm getting with any regularity is the IMAPI
Warning but it's prolific. I'm talking 15 - 20 entries at
once. Once I counted 60.

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Imapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 54
Date: 04/12/2006
Time: 12:37:30 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 54 ) in Source ( Imapi ) cannot
be found. The
local computer may not have the necessary registry information
or message DLL
files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be
able to
use the
/AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and
Support for details. The following information is part of the
event: . Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 36 00 04 80 ....6..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Presently I have it on Automatic but whether it's on Automatic
or Manual doesn't make any difference. Obviously I don't need
it as it doesn't start itself.
But if it isn't being used why do the Warnings appear?

I've Started IMAPI on occasion but that doesn't make any
difference.
I think I'll put it back on Manual and leave it in the Stopped
mode.

Sometimes I get multiple entries in a row. Sometimes one. I've
tried but can't pin down what I'm doing that causes it to go
into a multiple spin.

Oh BTW since abandoning Norton, my shut downs are now lickety
split.
Maybe
it was Norton, maybe not, but it's so nice not to have to wait
when shutting
down.
I've used Norton for years but recently I got hit with some Pest
thingie. I
was dissappointed NAV didn't protect me so I switched.
Again, Wes, Thank You for the time u spent helping me and pls
accept
my apology. My failure to reply wasn't by choice. ...

:

Edna,

Your original post said 2 - 3 minute shutdowns. How long did
shutdown take
before you installed UPHClean?

I get the Event Source: HHCTRL Event ID: 1904 all the time.
Due to a Windows Critical Update.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: HHCTRL
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1904
Date: 02/23/2006
Time: 1:32:25 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MYPENTIUM450
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1904 ) in Source ( HHCTRL )
cannot
be found.
The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a
remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to
retrieve this description; see Help and
Support for details. The following information is part of the
event: res://C:\WINDOWS\System32\shdoclc.dll/dnserror.htm,
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkID=45840.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?LinkID=45840
resolves to...
MS05-026: A vulnerability in HTML Help could allow remote code
execution http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896358
------

UPHClean 1412: I have no idea what that is. SWAG: handle
remapping
did not
work, so it tried closing handle the handle.

The following are from:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/8/7/a87b3d05-cd04-4743-a23b-b16645e075ac/readme.txt

-------
3) Here the service is telling you that it closed handles that
were
preventing
the profile from unloading:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: UPHClean
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1201
Date: 11/14/2003
Time: 10:26:29 PM
User: RCARONDOM\u1
Computer: RCARONDOM-DC1
Description:
The following handles in user profile hive RCARONDOM\u1
(S-1-5-21-3230802392-3390281410-1560515013-1307) have been
closed
because they
were preventing the profile from unloading successfully:

profleak.exe (1444)
HKCU (0x144)
-------

1201 is just information that UPHClean is doing its job.
-------

8) If you use handle remapping instead of getting event id 1201
logged you
will
get event 1401:

Event Type: Information
Event Source: UPHClean
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1401
Date: 10/26/2004
Time: 9:56:52 PM
User: RCARON2-NC\u1
Computer: RCARON2-NC
Description:
The following handles in user profile hive RCARON2-NC\u1
(S-1-5-21-796845957-1275210071-1801674531-1024) have been
remapped because
they
were preventing the profile from unloading successfully:

regopenkeyex.exe (368)
HKCU\Software\Classes\Software (0x4)
-------

UPHClean assists the operating system to unload user profile
hive
by remapping the handles to the user profile hive to the
default user hive.

UPHClean doing its job.
-------

Event Source: UPHClean
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1010

This will occur eveer time that UPHClean stops and is normal.
-------

I saw HKCU\Software\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\nView\Tweak under
Event Source: UPHClean
Event ID: 1201.

NVIDIA software can mess up a bunch of things. NVIDIA is a
graphic
card.

I have all of this NVIDIA crap disabled and suggest that you do
the
same.

Disable the NVIDIA Display Driver Service...
Start | Run | Type: services.msc | OK |
Scroll down to and double click: NVIDIA Display Driver Service

Under Startup type set to Disabled | Apply | Click the Stop
button
When it stops click OK | You may have to reboot

First: NvCplDaemon, NvMediaCenter and nwiz what are they?

NvCplDaemon
[System Tray icon used to change display settings, change the
clock
rate and
memory speed for nVidia based graphics cards. This is
unnecessary
since you

 

[Guest]

Wes, Notes step by step:
HID - General Tab:
Changed fr Disabled to Automatic.

Service status on Stopped. I clicked Start.
Message: Could not START the HID Input Service service on Local Computer.
ERROR 2: The System cannot find the file specified.

Path to Executable: C:\W\Sys32\SVCHOST.exe-K.Net Service
My SVCHOST.exe: 14KB Modified 04Aug04 12:56am V5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.

Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL etc\Parameters: Mine says (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)

I've got:
USB HP Printer, Fax, Copier, Scanner, and
New USB Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 11 with VOLUME CONTROL.

Amazing coincidence BEFORE reading your reply this PM I switched the
Speakers from the side of the Computer into the Back so I could use the
Volume control on the Keyboard. I guess that's into the MB as I know I
didn't buy a Sound Card but ...
Realtek High Definition Audio came with the MB.

Wes ... I no longer have Sound with the Speaker plugged into the back.
(Previously the Speaker plug was plugged in the side of the computer and I
had Sound)

It appears the "Missing file" message is correct but what file.

The Keyboard didn't come with a CD.
Realtek is showing in Control Panel so it's installed.
The Speakers worked in the side plugged into what? ... I have no idea.

Is it a USB file that's missing?? I hope u will chose to continue if u
feel u can get the instructions through to my head. Thx ...

Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ (Service
Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio Service.
Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes to
shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals are not
connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device Class
Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are Connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra buttons
that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of yours
magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic. Namely, scanners
with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an "Internet" keyboard with volume
or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is stopped,
hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function. If this
service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to
start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with volume and
play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons. I don't have any of
these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is stopped,
hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on other
services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it breaks
anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the system hotkeys
that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this service, they are built into
the core OS. Control C, for example, to copy and Control V to past, do not
stop working when you turn this service off. It seems this has more to do
with specific hotkeys that a software vendor may want to insert into their
installed program or internet product. Until you see a reason for it, I'd
turn this one off.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've got
Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been getting
since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old MS
Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got my
Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u ever
find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation service),
Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work right. Or if
Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any names in the User Name
column in Task Manager. Or if you disable the Indexing Service, your
machine runs better. Or if you disable the DHCP Client service you
cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to previously
because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even the default
settings for Services listed in Help & Support are still wrong. I've
gotten these settings by doing a fresh install of both XP Home and Pro
and exporting the Services configuration as a .csv file.]]
TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never would
have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other setting except
Disable. Do u know of a GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can refer
to as to suggestions for these Settings. I read the explanations for
these Services and many go right over my head. Between my girlfriend
and I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those that
didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer eh?
Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only Disables.
Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...

:

Disable the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. It is only needed when using
XP's inbuilt CD burning application. If you use any 3rd party CD
burning software, IMAPI.EXE does not need to run, ever. It can cause
conflicts. I have Nero and have IMAPI disabled.

I know nothing about Acronis.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Gerry! I have Nero 6.6.0.18 installed that came with my Asus P5WD2
Premium MB installed Dec05. I've never used it. I was using Roxio
but after reading comments on Roxio causing hangs, which I was
experiencing, I removed it thoroughly, every reg entry. I was
planning, within hours, to buy the new Nero.

Something possibly relevant I noticed the other night: I bought
Acronis V10 the True Image program, I have to wait 40 mins for it to
get through a hang before it starts. I've completed a Report for the
Acronis Techs but haven't heard of their finds yet.

I'm suspicious, the IMAPI Warnings and Acronis Hangs are related.
Maybe not but I recently noticed I got an IMAPI Warning at the very
same time I started Acronis. More work required as I couldn't
immediately repeat it.

Now, to answer your question: Yes! LOL ...


:

Edna

Are you using Nero software?

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wes I'm so sorry time didn't permit me to respond as I should have
and wanted
very much to do. I came here so often to continue and something
else would
prevent me from concentrating on this.
I did switch my AV from NAV to Zone Alarm Security Suite and find
now that
the only Warning I'm getting with any regularity is the IMAPI
Warning but it's prolific. I'm talking 15 - 20 entries at once.
Once I counted 60.

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Imapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 54
Date: 04/12/2006
Time: 12:37:30 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 54 ) in Source ( Imapi ) cannot be
found. The
local computer may not have the necessary registry information or
message DLL
files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to
use the
/AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support
for details. The following information is part of the event: .
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 36 00 04 80 ....6..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Presently I have it on Automatic but whether it's on Automatic or
Manual doesn't make any difference. Obviously I don't need it as it
doesn't start itself.
But if it isn't being used why do the Warnings appear?

I've Started IMAPI on occasion but that doesn't make any difference.
I think I'll put it back on Manual and leave it in the Stopped mode.

Sometimes I get multiple entries in a row. Sometimes one. I've
tried but can't pin down what I'm doing that causes it to go into a
multiple spin.

Oh BTW since abandoning Norton, my shut downs are now lickety split.
Maybe
it was Norton, maybe not, but it's so nice not to have to wait when
shutting
down.
I've used Norton for years but recently I got hit with some Pest
thingie. I
was dissappointed NAV didn't protect me so I switched.
Again, Wes, Thank You for the time u spent helping me and pls accept
my apology. My failure to reply wasn't by choice. ...

:

Edna,

Your original post said 2 - 3 minute shutdowns. How long did
shutdown take
before you installed UPHClean?

I get the Event Source: HHCTRL Event ID: 1904 all the time. Due
to a Windows Critical Update.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: HHCTRL
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1904
Date: 02/23/2006
Time: 1:32:25 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MYPENTIUM450
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1904 ) in Source ( HHCTRL ) cannot
be found.
The local computer may not have the necessary registry information
or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer.
You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this
description; see Help and

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Edna,

hidserv.dll is the file.

hidserv.dll is probably not in the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

Start | Run | Type: system32 | Click OK to open the folder.

Do an Advanced Search for hidserv.dll on your machine.

See this on how...
HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302347

The dllcache folder is Hidden and so anything in it will also be Hidden.

hidserv.dll will probably be found in
%SystemRoot%\System32\dllcache folder
or
%Systemroot%\ServicePackFiles folder

You should have one folder or the other.

I do not have a ServicePackFiles folder, so I have no idea if it is Hidden.

When you find hidserv.dll, copy it and paste it into your system32 folder.

If you cannot find hidserv.dll on your machine, you can expand a copy from
your XP CD, if that's the case post back and someone will post instructions.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes, Notes step by step:
HID - General Tab:
Changed fr Disabled to Automatic.

Service status on Stopped. I clicked Start.
Message: Could not START the HID Input Service service on Local Computer.
ERROR 2: The System cannot find the file specified.

Path to Executable: C:\W\Sys32\SVCHOST.exe-K.Net Service
My SVCHOST.exe: 14KB Modified 04Aug04 12:56am V5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.

Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL etc\Parameters: Mine says (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)

I've got:
USB HP Printer, Fax, Copier, Scanner, and
New USB Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 11 with VOLUME CONTROL.

Amazing coincidence BEFORE reading your reply this PM I switched the
Speakers from the side of the Computer into the Back so I could use the
Volume control on the Keyboard. I guess that's into the MB as I know I
didn't buy a Sound Card but ...
Realtek High Definition Audio came with the MB.

Wes ... I no longer have Sound with the Speaker plugged into the back.
(Previously the Speaker plug was plugged in the side of the computer and I
had Sound)

It appears the "Missing file" message is correct but what file.

The Keyboard didn't come with a CD.
Realtek is showing in Control Panel so it's installed.
The Speakers worked in the side plugged into what? ... I have no idea.

Is it a USB file that's missing?? I hope u will chose to continue if u
feel u can get the instructions through to my head. Thx ...

Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ (Service
Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio Service.
Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes to
shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals are
not connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device
Class Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are Connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra
buttons that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of
yours magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic. Namely,
scanners with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an "Internet"
keyboard with volume or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.
If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it
will fail to start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with volume
and play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons. I don't
have any of these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on other
services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it breaks
anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the system
hotkeys that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this service, they
are built into the core OS. Control C, for example, to copy and Control
V to past, do not stop working when you turn this service off. It seems
this has more to do with specific hotkeys that a software vendor may
want to insert into their installed program or internet product. Until
you see a reason for it, I'd turn this one off.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've got
Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been getting
since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old MS
Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got my
Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u
ever find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

:

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation
service), Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work
right. Or if Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any names
in the User Name column in Task Manager. Or if you disable the
Indexing Service, your machine runs better. Or if you disable the
DHCP Client service you cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to previously
because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even the default
settings for Services listed in Help & Support are still wrong. I've
gotten these settings by doing a fresh install of both XP Home and Pro
and exporting the Services configuration as a .csv file.]]
TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never would
have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other setting except
Disable. Do u know of a GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can
refer to as to suggestions for these Settings. I read the
explanations for these Services and many go right over my head.
Between my girlfriend and I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those that
didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer eh?
Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only Disables.
Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...

:

Disable the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. It is only needed when
using XP's inbuilt CD burning application. If you use any 3rd party
CD burning software, IMAPI.EXE does not need to run, ever. It can
cause conflicts. I have Nero and have IMAPI disabled.

I know nothing about Acronis.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Gerry! I have Nero 6.6.0.18 installed that came with my Asus
P5WD2 Premium MB installed Dec05. I've never used it. I was using
Roxio but after reading comments on Roxio causing hangs, which I was
experiencing, I removed it thoroughly, every reg entry. I was
planning, within hours, to buy the new Nero.

Something possibly relevant I noticed the other night: I bought
Acronis V10 the True Image program, I have to wait 40 mins for it to
get through a hang before it starts. I've completed a Report for
the Acronis Techs but haven't heard of their finds yet.

I'm suspicious, the IMAPI Warnings and Acronis Hangs are related.
Maybe not but I recently noticed I got an IMAPI Warning at the very
same time I started Acronis. More work required as I couldn't
immediately repeat it.

Now, to answer your question: Yes! LOL ...


:

Edna

Are you using Nero software?

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wes I'm so sorry time didn't permit me to respond as I should have
and wanted
very much to do. I came here so often to continue and something
else would
prevent me from concentrating on this.
I did switch my AV from NAV to Zone Alarm Security Suite and find
now that
the only Warning I'm getting with any regularity is the IMAPI
Warning but it's prolific. I'm talking 15 - 20 entries at once.
Once I counted 60.

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Imapi
Event Category: None
Event ID: 54
Date: 04/12/2006
Time: 12:37:30 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 54 ) in Source ( Imapi ) cannot be
found. The
local computer may not have the necessary registry information or
message DLL
files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able
to use the
/AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and
Support for details. The following information is part of the
event: .
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 01 00 54 00 ......T.
0008: 00 00 00 00 36 00 04 80
....6..€ 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 ........ 0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

Presently I have it on Automatic but whether it's on Automatic or
Manual doesn't make any difference. Obviously I don't need it as
it doesn't start itself.
But if it isn't being used why do the Warnings appear?

I've Started IMAPI on occasion but that doesn't make any
difference.
I think I'll put it back on Manual and leave it in the Stopped
mode.

Sometimes I get multiple entries in a row. Sometimes one. I've
tried but can't pin down what I'm doing that causes it to go into
a multiple spin.

Oh BTW since abandoning Norton, my shut downs are now lickety
split. Maybe
it was Norton, maybe not, but it's so nice not to have to wait
when shutting
down.
I've used Norton for years but recently I got hit with some Pest
thingie. I
was dissappointed NAV didn't protect me so I switched.
Again, Wes, Thank You for the time u spent helping me and pls
accept my apology. My failure to reply wasn't by choice. ...

:

Edna,

Your original post said 2 - 3 minute shutdowns. How long did
shutdown take
before you installed UPHClean?

I get the Event Source: HHCTRL Event ID: 1904 all the time. Due
to a Windows Critical Update.

Event Type: Information
Event Source: HHCTRL
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1904
Date: 02/23/2006
Time: 1:32:25 PM
User: N/A
Computer: MYPENTIUM450
Description:
The description for Event ID ( 1904 ) in Source ( HHCTRL ) cannot
be found.
The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a
remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to
retrieve this description; see Help and

 

[Guest]

Wes, I was just searching the Registry for HIDSERV or HIDSERVICE or HIDAUDIO
or various combinations - no entries other than in
IE\ExplorerBars\FilesNamedMRU.

I do have three HIDSERV files all V5.1.2600.2180 xpsp_sp2 21KB in
W\System32,
ServicePack Files i386 and
Dll Cache.

Why would it not appear in the same registry location as yours does? ...

Edna,

hidserv.dll is the file.

hidserv.dll is probably not in the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

Start | Run | Type: system32 | Click OK to open the folder.

Do an Advanced Search for hidserv.dll on your machine.

See this on how...
HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302347

The dllcache folder is Hidden and so anything in it will also be Hidden.

hidserv.dll will probably be found in
%SystemRoot%\System32\dllcache folder
or
%Systemroot%\ServicePackFiles folder

You should have one folder or the other.

I do not have a ServicePackFiles folder, so I have no idea if it is Hidden.

When you find hidserv.dll, copy it and paste it into your system32 folder.

If you cannot find hidserv.dll on your machine, you can expand a copy from
your XP CD, if that's the case post back and someone will post instructions.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes, Notes step by step:
HID - General Tab:
Changed fr Disabled to Automatic.

Service status on Stopped. I clicked Start.
Message: Could not START the HID Input Service service on Local Computer.
ERROR 2: The System cannot find the file specified.

Path to Executable: C:\W\Sys32\SVCHOST.exe-K.Net Service
My SVCHOST.exe: 14KB Modified 04Aug04 12:56am V5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.

Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL etc\Parameters: Mine says (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)

I've got:
USB HP Printer, Fax, Copier, Scanner, and
New USB Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 11 with VOLUME CONTROL.

Amazing coincidence BEFORE reading your reply this PM I switched the
Speakers from the side of the Computer into the Back so I could use the
Volume control on the Keyboard. I guess that's into the MB as I know I
didn't buy a Sound Card but ...
Realtek High Definition Audio came with the MB.

Wes ... I no longer have Sound with the Speaker plugged into the back.
(Previously the Speaker plug was plugged in the side of the computer and I
had Sound)

It appears the "Missing file" message is correct but what file.

The Keyboard didn't come with a CD.
Realtek is showing in Control Panel so it's installed.
The Speakers worked in the side plugged into what? ... I have no idea.

Is it a USB file that's missing?? I hope u will chose to continue if u
feel u can get the instructions through to my head. Thx ...

Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ (Service
Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio Service.
Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes to
shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals are
not connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device
Class Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are Connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra
buttons that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of
yours magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic. Namely,
scanners with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an "Internet"
keyboard with volume or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.
If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it
will fail to start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with volume
and play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons. I don't
have any of these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on other
services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it breaks
anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the system
hotkeys that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this service, they
are built into the core OS. Control C, for example, to copy and Control
V to past, do not stop working when you turn this service off. It seems
this has more to do with specific hotkeys that a software vendor may
want to insert into their installed program or internet product. Until
you see a reason for it, I'd turn this one off.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've got
Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been getting
since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old MS
Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got my
Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u
ever find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

:

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation
service), Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work
right. Or if Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any names
in the User Name column in Task Manager. Or if you disable the
Indexing Service, your machine runs better. Or if you disable the
DHCP Client service you cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/


http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to previously
because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even the default
settings for Services listed in Help & Support are still wrong. I've
gotten these settings by doing a fresh install of both XP Home and Pro
and exporting the Services configuration as a .csv file.]]
TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never would
have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other setting except
Disable. Do u know of a GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can
refer to as to suggestions for these Settings. I read the
explanations for these Services and many go right over my head.
Between my girlfriend and I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those that
didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer eh?
Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only Disables.
Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...

:

Disable the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. It is only needed when
using XP's inbuilt CD burning application. If you use any 3rd party
CD burning software, IMAPI.EXE does not need to run, ever. It can
cause conflicts. I have Nero and have IMAPI disabled.

I know nothing about Acronis.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Gerry! I have Nero 6.6.0.18 installed that came with my Asus
P5WD2 Premium MB installed Dec05. I've never used it. I was using
Roxio but after reading comments on Roxio causing hangs, which I was
experiencing, I removed it thoroughly, every reg entry. I was
planning, within hours, to buy the new Nero.

Something possibly relevant I noticed the other night: I bought
Acronis V10 the True Image program, I have to wait 40 mins for it to
get through a hang before it starts. I've completed a Report for
the Acronis Techs but haven't heard of their finds yet.

I'm suspicious, the IMAPI Warnings and Acronis Hangs are related.
Maybe not but I recently noticed I got an IMAPI Warning at the very
same time I started Acronis. More work required as I couldn't
immediately repeat it.

Now, to answer your question: Yes! LOL ...


:

Edna

Are you using Nero software?

--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wes I'm so sorry time didn't permit me to respond as I should have
and wanted

 

[Wesley Vogel]

Edna,

sc query queries the status of a service.

Try this.

Open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | click OK |
Type or paste the following command:

sc query hidserv

Then hit your Enter key.

I get this.
---------------
C:\>sc query hidserv

SERVICE_NAME: hidserv
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 1077 (0x435)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
----------------

What do you get?

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes, I was just searching the Registry for HIDSERV or HIDSERVICE or
HIDAUDIO or various combinations - no entries other than in
IE\ExplorerBars\FilesNamedMRU.

I do have three HIDSERV files all V5.1.2600.2180 xpsp_sp2 21KB in
W\System32,
ServicePack Files i386 and
Dll Cache.

Why would it not appear in the same registry location as yours does? ...

Edna,

hidserv.dll is the file.

hidserv.dll is probably not in the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

Start | Run | Type: system32 | Click OK to open the folder.

Do an Advanced Search for hidserv.dll on your machine.

See this on how...
HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302347

The dllcache folder is Hidden and so anything in it will also be Hidden.

hidserv.dll will probably be found in
%SystemRoot%\System32\dllcache folder
or
%Systemroot%\ServicePackFiles folder

You should have one folder or the other.

I do not have a ServicePackFiles folder, so I have no idea if it is
Hidden.

When you find hidserv.dll, copy it and paste it into your system32
folder.

If you cannot find hidserv.dll on your machine, you can expand a copy
from your XP CD, if that's the case post back and someone will post
instructions.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In

Wes, Notes step by step:
HID - General Tab:
Changed fr Disabled to Automatic.

Service status on Stopped. I clicked Start.
Message: Could not START the HID Input Service service on Local
Computer. ERROR 2: The System cannot find the file specified.

Path to Executable: C:\W\Sys32\SVCHOST.exe-K.Net Service
My SVCHOST.exe: 14KB Modified 04Aug04 12:56am V5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.

Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL etc\Parameters: Mine says (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)

I've got:
USB HP Printer, Fax, Copier, Scanner, and
New USB Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 11 with VOLUME CONTROL.

Amazing coincidence BEFORE reading your reply this PM I switched the
Speakers from the side of the Computer into the Back so I could use the
Volume control on the Keyboard. I guess that's into the MB as I know
I didn't buy a Sound Card but ...
Realtek High Definition Audio came with the MB.

Wes ... I no longer have Sound with the Speaker plugged into the back.
(Previously the Speaker plug was plugged in the side of the computer
and I had Sound)

It appears the "Missing file" message is correct but what file.

The Keyboard didn't come with a CD.
Realtek is showing in Control Panel so it's installed.
The Speakers worked in the side plugged into what? ... I have no idea.

Is it a USB file that's missing?? I hope u will chose to continue if u
feel u can get the instructions through to my head. Thx ...



:

Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ (Service
Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio
Service. Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes
to shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals
are not connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device
Class Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are Connected
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra
buttons that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of
yours magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic. Namely,
scanners with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an "Internet"
keyboard with volume or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer
function. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly
depend on it will fail to start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with volume
and play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons. I don't
have any of these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards,
remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this service is
stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no longer
function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on
other services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it
breaks anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the
system hotkeys that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this
service, they are built into the core OS. Control C, for example, to
copy and Control V to past, do not stop working when you turn this
service off. It seems this has more to do with specific hotkeys that a
software vendor may want to insert into their installed program or
internet product. Until you see a reason for it, I'd turn this one off.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've
got Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been
getting since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old
MS Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got
my Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u
ever find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

:

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation
service), Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work
right. Or if Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any names
in the User Name column in Task Manager. Or if you disable the
Indexing Service, your machine runs better. Or if you disable the
DHCP Client service you cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to previously
because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even the default
settings for Services listed in Help & Support are still wrong. I've
gotten these settings by doing a fresh install of both XP Home and
Pro and exporting the Services configuration as a .csv file.]]
TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never
would have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other
setting except Disable. Do u know of a
GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can refer to as to
suggestions for these Settings. I read the explanations for these
Services and many go right over my head. Between my girlfriend and
I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those
that didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer
eh? Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only
Disables. Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...

:

Disable the IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. It is only needed when
using XP's inbuilt CD burning application. If you use any 3rd
party CD burning software, IMAPI.EXE does not need to run, ever.
It can cause conflicts. I have Nero and have IMAPI disabled.

I know nothing about Acronis.

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In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Gerry! I have Nero 6.6.0.18 installed that came with my Asus
P5WD2 Premium MB installed Dec05. I've never used it. I was
using Roxio but after reading comments on Roxio causing hangs,
which I was experiencing, I removed it thoroughly, every reg
entry. I was planning, within hours, to buy the new Nero.

Something possibly relevant I noticed the other night: I bought
Acronis V10 the True Image program, I have to wait 40 mins for it
to get through a hang before it starts. I've completed a Report
for the Acronis Techs but haven't heard of their finds yet.

I'm suspicious, the IMAPI Warnings and Acronis Hangs are related.
Maybe not but I recently noticed I got an IMAPI Warning at the
very same time I started Acronis. More work required as I
couldn't immediately repeat it.

Now, to answer your question: Yes! LOL ...


:

Edna

Are you using Nero software?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Wes I'm so sorry time didn't permit me to respond as I should
have and wanted

 

[Wesley Vogel]

The Win32 Exit Code is different. What does it tell u?

WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 2 (0x2)

If the service was started successfully, the WIN32_EXIT_CODE field should
contain a zero (0). If the service failed to start when an attempt was made,
this field should contain an exit code provided by the service when it
realized it couldn't start.

Net Helpmsg can be used to display the text for most Windows NT error
messages.

C:\>net helpmsg 2

The system cannot find the file specified.


C:\>

Sound familar?

How do I change to C: like yours.

Try this...

Right click the Desktop | New | Shortcut |
Paste this in the location box:

%SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe

Click Next | Click Finish |

Right click the new cmd.exe shortcut | Properties |
In the Start in box replace %windir% with C:\ |
Click Apply | Click OK

Double click the new shortcut and you should see.............

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\>

You can also change the Start in for the cmd shortcut located under
Accessories on the Start Menu.

Right click the cmd shortcut | Properties | Type: C:\ in the Start in
box

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In

GM Wes, I did it! How do I change to C: like yours.
The Win32 Exit Code is different. What does it tell u?

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>sc query hidserv

SERVICE_NAME: hidserv
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN) WIN32_EXIT_CODE
: 2 (0x2) SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner> ...

Edna,

sc query queries the status of a service.

Try this.

Open a command prompt...
Start | Run | Type: cmd | click OK |
Type or paste the following command:

sc query hidserv

Then hit your Enter key.

I get this.
---------------
C:\>sc query hidserv

SERVICE_NAME: hidserv
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 1 STOPPED

(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 1077 (0x435)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0
----------------

What do you get?

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In

Wes, I was just searching the Registry for HIDSERV or HIDSERVICE or
HIDAUDIO or various combinations - no entries other than in
IE\ExplorerBars\FilesNamedMRU.

I do have three HIDSERV files all V5.1.2600.2180 xpsp_sp2 21KB in
W\System32,
ServicePack Files i386 and
Dll Cache.

Why would it not appear in the same registry location as yours does? ...

:

Edna,

hidserv.dll is the file.

hidserv.dll is probably not in the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

Start | Run | Type: system32 | Click OK to open the folder.

Do an Advanced Search for hidserv.dll on your machine.

See this on how...
HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302347

The dllcache folder is Hidden and so anything in it will also be
Hidden.

hidserv.dll will probably be found in
%SystemRoot%\System32\dllcache folder
or
%Systemroot%\ServicePackFiles folder

You should have one folder or the other.

I do not have a ServicePackFiles folder, so I have no idea if it is
Hidden.

When you find hidserv.dll, copy it and paste it into your system32
folder.

If you cannot find hidserv.dll on your machine, you can expand a copy
from your XP CD, if that's the case post back and someone will post
instructions.

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In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes, Notes step by step:
HID - General Tab:
Changed fr Disabled to Automatic.

Service status on Stopped. I clicked Start.
Message: Could not START the HID Input Service service on Local
Computer. ERROR 2: The System cannot find the file specified.

Path to Executable: C:\W\Sys32\SVCHOST.exe-K.Net Service
My SVCHOST.exe: 14KB Modified 04Aug04 12:56am V5.1.2600.2180
(xpsp_sp2_rtm.

Registry:
HKEY_LOCAL etc\Parameters: Mine says (Default) REG_SZ (Value not set)

I've got:
USB HP Printer, Fax, Copier, Scanner, and
New USB Keyboard Saitek Eclipse 11 with VOLUME CONTROL.

Amazing coincidence BEFORE reading your reply this PM I switched the
Speakers from the side of the Computer into the Back so I could use
the Volume control on the Keyboard. I guess that's into the MB as
I know I didn't buy a Sound Card but ...
Realtek High Definition Audio came with the MB.

Wes ... I no longer have Sound with the Speaker plugged into the
back. (Previously the Speaker plug was plugged in the side of the
computer and I had Sound)

It appears the "Missing file" message is correct but what file.

The Keyboard didn't come with a CD.
Realtek is showing in Control Panel so it's installed.
The Speakers worked in the side plugged into what? ... I have no idea.

Is it a USB file that's missing?? I hope u will chose to continue
if u feel u can get the instructions through to my head. Thx ...



:

Human Interface Device Access is the Display Name for HidServ
(Service Name).

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\
Services\HidServ\Parameters
sez: ServiceDll = %SystemRoot%\System32\hidserv.dll
hidserv.dll = depending on the version; HID Service or HID Audio
Service. Mine sez HID Audio Service.

This is interesting...
SYMPTOMS
When you try to shut down a Windows XP-based computer that has Human
Interface Devices (HID) peripherals connected, the time that it takes
to shut down the computer may be longer than when the HID peripherals
are not connected.

Note HID peripherals are Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices such as
keyboards, game controllers, and scanners that comply with the Device
Class Definition for HID 1.11 standard.
from...
Shutting Down Computer Takes Extra Time When HID Devices Are
Connected http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826367

Human Interface Device Access
Disabled, if not using keyboards/mouse/joysticks extended with extra
buttons that need mapping.
Manual, if having many buttons to push.

Human Interface Device Access
You may not have any peripherals that require this service. If one of
yours magically does not function anymore, set it to automatic.
Namely, scanners with function buttons (fax, copy) or even an
"Internet" keyboard with volume or play controls.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on
keyboards, remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this
service is stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no
longer function. If this service is disabled, any services that
explicitly depend on it will fail to start.
*Some peripherals require this service. Internet keyboards with
volume and play control buttons, scanners with fax or copy buttons.
I don't have any of these kinds of peripherals so mine is disabled.

Human Interface Device Access
Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which
activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on
keyboards, remote controls, and other multimedia devices. If this
service is stopped, hot buttons controlled by this service will no
longer function.

Human Interface Device Access
Comment: Whether or not you should disable this service, depends on
other services you need. If you don't know, turn it off and see if it
breaks anything. It says that it deals with hotkeys, however all the
system hotkeys that most of us enjoy aren't controlled by this
service, they are built into the core OS. Control C, for example, to
copy and Control V to past, do not stop working when you turn this
service off. It seems this has more to do with specific hotkeys that
a software vendor may want to insert into their installed program or
internet product. Until you see a reason for it, I'd turn this one
off.

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MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Wes I just shut down and one only IMAPI Warning appeared.
Question: IMAPI Properties, Logon Tab, under Hardware Profile I've
got Profile 1 Enabled. Shouldn't that that too be Disabled?

While I have your attn: Only One more I'm getting and have been
getting since the computer was put together is:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7023
Date: 05/12/2006
Time: 3:10:59 PM
User: N/A
Computer: SHARK
Description:
The HID Input Service service terminated with the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

I have HID Input Service on Automatic but I see it's not Started.
General Tab, Service Status shows Stopped. Profile 1 is Enabled.

I did have a Logitech Wireless Mouse installed by I'm back to my old
MS Mouse. I've got a Linksys Wireless Router and DSL. I haven't got
my Laptop on the router yet.
Creative Speakers and I don't use any hot buttons.
That description makes ME think there's a file missing. How would u
ever find out which file? Any ideas. Thx ...

:

Edna,

You also have to use your own judgment. Sometimes you have to mess
around and see why something doesn't work because you disabled a
particular service.

A few examples. If you disable LanmanWorkstation (Workstation
service), Local Users and Groups (lusrmgr.msc) in MMC doesn't work
right. Or if Terminal Services is disabled you do not see any
names in the User Name column in Task Manager. Or if you disable
the Indexing Service, your machine runs better. Or if you disable
the DHCP Client service you cannot get online.


http://smallvoid.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm#Services

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128094512/http://www.blackviper.com/

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

[[Services
Microsoft pulled their services guide that I had linked to
previously because the information was outdated due to SP2. Even
the default settings for Services listed in Help & Support are
still wrong. I've gotten these settings by doing a fresh install
of both XP Home and Pro and exporting the Services configuration
as a .csv file.]] TweakHound's Super XP Tweaking Guide - Services
http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks6.htm

Default settings for services

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/.../proddocs/en-us/sys_srv_default_settings.mspx

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In Edna <[email protected]> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wes! I've just disabled IMAPI. I didn't know that and never
would have thought to Disable it. I've had it on every other
setting except Disable. Do u know of a
GOOD/INTELLIGENT/KNOWLEDGABLE Site one can refer to as to
suggestions for these Settings. I read the explanations for
these Services and many go right over my head. Between my
girlfriend and I we discuss and decide.
I once put them all on Automatic, Shutdown, Restarted, and those
that didn't show Start, I put on Manual. Whatta Hi Tech Analyzer
eh? Messenger and Secondary Logon and now IMAPI are my only
Disables. Thx I'll let u know in a cple days. ...