worthless activation

R

Richard Urban [MVP]

NOTHING in the links you supplied says "anything" about a 25 time activation
limit. It says that you need a 25 digit activation key. What you are seeing
is normal. If you do nothing to your system for 180 days, the system resets
to ZERO and you can activate over the internet as you first did. If you
change things a lot, expect to have to make that phone call.

But, there are even ways around that. I test scads of hardware and software
and have had to only activate once.

Now, instead of having an attitude, why don't you ask how that can be done -
if you are something other than a TROLL!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
 
M

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)

Husky

You have way too many preconceptions about computing in general and
Microsoft in particular to ever overcome your problems.. changing to another
platform requires a level of understanding that clearly you could not
muster..

I would suggest that you either quit computing completely, or listen to
people that may be able to give you the knowledge to make computing fun..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland
 
L

lvee

well, you caught on...it's just a big huge plot by MS to, at first, lull you
into complacency, then, just as you get fairly comfortable with their
software, they hit you with the full treatment.. they mess with your mind,
your soul, your sanity..you begin to wonder just how many time are they
going to make you activate before you will no longer have the strength to
continue the process...The next thing you know, they will be snooping in
your yard, your place of employment...checking to see if you are near, or
have EXCEEDED your limit of 25 activations, and, just like Big Brother, they
will be waiting for you when you do..oh, yes indeedy, they most certainly
will.
Then they'll start asking questions, ..like, 'How long have you been hearing
voices in your head? that sort of thing. SO, you are right to be so
paranoid..really, and please, don't let the MS robot dogs tell you anything
different, no matter how many of them sound sane, sound like they know what
they are talking about, or appear to be rational, because, well it's all
part of the plot.
 
H

Husky

Husky

You have way too many preconceptions about computing in general and
Microsoft in particular to ever overcome your problems.. changing to another
platform requires a level of understanding that clearly you could not
muster..

I would suggest that you either quit computing completely, or listen to
people that may be able to give you the knowledge to make computing fun..
I've been at it for more than 20 years. It was a pain arguing with a machine
then, and it's even harder arguing with those that believe the machine is
infallible.
 
H

Husky

well, you caught on...it's just a big huge plot by MS to, at first, lull you
into complacency, then, just as you get fairly comfortable with their
software, they hit you with the full treatment.. they mess with your mind,
your soul, your sanity..you begin to wonder just how many time are they
going to make you activate before you will no longer have the strength to
continue the process...The next thing you know, they will be snooping in
your yard, your place of employment...checking to see if you are near, or
have EXCEEDED your limit of 25 activations, and, just like Big Brother, they
will be waiting for you when you do..oh, yes indeedy, they most certainly
will.
Then they'll start asking questions, ..like, 'How long have you been hearing
voices in your head? that sort of thing. SO, you are right to be so
paranoid..really, and please, don't let the MS robot dogs tell you anything
different, no matter how many of them sound sane, sound like they know what
they are talking about, or appear to be rational, because, well it's all
part of the plot.

And it would seem that you know even less about what's on your machine this
moment than M$ does.
They can track you with a simple text file on your machine.
If you didn't create the program, you have no idea what all the extras behind
the scenes are or can do.
Majority are called Virus or Trojan.

M$ isn't above their own brand of law and order. Bounty paid [not will pay,
PAID] on Virus programmers. Last time that happened 6 million Jews were gassed
or cooked.
Children turning their parents in. Oh yeah... Ya gotta bow to M$.
I'm stuck with it same as anyone else that chooses to use one of these things.
I just don't feel it's necessary to ask permission to use what's already been
paid for. Internet is a small part of what I use this for. I could live without
the Internet, but M$ can't, they NEED to connect to home every so often.

I've never been comfortable with any machine or software. When a virus wipes
you out, it isn't your fault. it's the way the software and machine were
DESIGNED to operate.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Husky said:
And it would seem that you know even less about what's on your
machine this moment than M$ does.
They can track you with a simple text file on your machine.
If you didn't create the program, you have no idea what all the
extras behind the scenes are or can do.
Majority are called Virus or Trojan.

M$ isn't above their own brand of law and order. Bounty paid [not
will pay, PAID] on Virus programmers. Last time that happened 6
million Jews were gassed or cooked.
Children turning their parents in. Oh yeah... Ya gotta bow to M$.
I'm stuck with it same as anyone else that chooses to use one of
these things. I just don't feel it's necessary to ask permission to
use what's already been paid for. Internet is a small part of what I
use this for. I could live without the Internet, but M$ can't, they
NEED to connect to home every so often.

I've never been comfortable with any machine or software. When a
virus wipes you out, it isn't your fault. it's the way the software
and machine were DESIGNED to operate.

You are proof that ignorance really isn't bliss, eh?
 
H

Harry Ohrn

Husky said:
Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you
only bought 25 uses of it ?

Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os
etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing
at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask
every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your
machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over
again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ?

And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th
activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ?

I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date.

And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old.
Congratulations on a very successful troll post.
 
S

Sparda

About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't
reached the 25 modem
activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking about
or in for.
That installation serial of yours is trash after 25
activations.

And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using
their software a
bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine make
that decision.

Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already
paid for more than
once ?

Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows,
living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly
legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the
less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this
copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :p)
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

You are confusing the issue. Product Activation is mandatory
and "registration" is entirely optional.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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"Sparda" wrote:

| Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows,
| living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly
| legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the
| less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this
| copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :p)
 
H

Husky

Although I legally own my copy of XP, i chose not to activate windows,
living in England and not the US or any other country, it is perfectly
legal to by pass the windows activation, I prefer my anonymity, the
less information I send to Microsoft, the better, plus I can use this
copy of XP on many different PC (obviously not at the same time :p)

Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace period
allowed before needing to activate ?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Husky said:
Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace
period allowed before needing to activate ?

They could have cracked it.. generated a false number (but working one.)..
Downloaded a volume license copy of Windows XP and used it.. Used one of
the many methods on the Internet for getting past activation...

Or..

More likely.. Mistook "registration" for "activation".
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

You can't. You need to activate Windows XP within
thirty days of installation.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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:

| Interesting, how do you avoid the remind me NAG ?
| Or for that matter, how do you get it to work past the 30 day grace period
| allowed before needing to activate ?
 
S

Sparda

"Guy" is full of beans....

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security
Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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:

| Guy says he does it with a registered version. I want to
know how...

Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i don’t
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade, lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so, and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"
 
S

Shenan Stanley

basicly i refer you back to "if it works, why upgrade?"

Sooner or later, you become obsolete.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Perhaps the same problems that cause instability in your computer are
related to your need to use such things as reset5.02.

"if it works, why upgrade?"
Perhaps it does work.
Or perhaps it seems to work but you can not see that it is broken.

Service Packs have not caused me any problems, but then I take care of my
computers so the Service Packs install smoothly.
 
H

Husky

Hello, I havent been keeping track, but i use reset5.02 to disable the
activation, this dose only work upto service pack1, but i don’t
intend on upgrading to SP2, if it works, then why upgrade, lots of
compnays (infect the majority) still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, whats the point upgrading if it alredy works. Plus from past
experiance i have discovered that upgrading from one SP to another
causes general instability and anoyance, alot of the updates that MS
provide (including SP2) just have a feel good factor "I have all
updates... My PC must be secure". Obviusly this is not so, and as such
i am behind a hardware firewall and ontop of that run a personal
firewall (ZA Pro to be exact) along side spybot S & D and AntiVir
(compleat with automated internal update server), basicly i refer you
back to "if it works, why upgrade?"

Why upgrade from win 3.01 ? Because you'll get trampled in the advancing
technology is why if you don't..
And SP2 is a big improvement.
 
S

Sparda

Sooner or later, you become obsolete.

It dose take a long time for a OS to become obsolete, for example you
can (if you want) play Grand Theft Auto 3 or vice city on windows 98.
And as i said most companys still use windows 2000 with win 2k
servers, this is probably due to cost benifit analysys showing that
the cost vastly out wighs the benifit. From microsofts point of view
windows 2000 went obsolete a few months ago (they officaly stoped
providing support) how ever i can safly say it will be a year or 2
after long horns release that win 2003 domain (with ither xp or long
horn clints) will out wight win 2000, as such software vendors will be
obliged to make there software compatible with as many versions of
windows as posible (probably from 2000 up). But thats the point any
way, you only upgade when it no longer works, which as i have said
will be several years from now.
 
S

Sparda

Why upgrade from win 3.01 ? Because you'll get trampled in the
advancing
technology is why if you don't..
And SP2 is a big improvement.

Service Pack 2 is a big improvment on Win 3.01? I dare say it is, but
there igo agian been pedantic. Obviusly win 3.01 can be said not to
work becasue it wouldnt not do what i requier, which is play DirecX 9
games. You may now wonder why I use XP over 98 or even XP over 2000,
well, im not sure why i use xp over 2000, there is no reason why i
should (guess this gose back to most companys using win 2000) I could
do every thing I wanted to do on windows 2000, the reasons for xp over
98 are fairly obviuse, 1. More stable 2. NTFS support 3. Back ground
services act more like deamons 4. Some recent games (such as san
andras) wont work on 98. What do you mean service pack instalments go
smoothly? of course they apar to install smoothly, untill you
disccover your printer prints all letters as question marks and
windows thinks you have DirecX 7 installed.
 

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