worthless activation

[Husky]

Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you
only bought 25 uses of it ?

Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os
etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing
at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask
every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your
machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over
again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ?

And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th
activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ?

I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date.

And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

There is no limit to the number of times you can activate
Windows XP installed on the same computer. If you are
unable to activate via the internet, then select the alternative
option to "activate by phone".

How to activate Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307890

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

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| Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you
| only bought 25 uses of it ?
|
| Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os
| etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing
| at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask
| every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your
| machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over
| again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ?
|
| And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th
| activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ?
|
| I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date.
|
| And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a
lawyer that you only bought 25 uses of it ?

Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall
the os etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is
capable of throwing at you, and every time you have to activate
brings you closer to having to ask every time one of these annoyances
crashes you for permission to use your machine again from someone so
bored of reading the same numbers over and over again all day long
that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ?

And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my
50th activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ?

I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date.

And if anyone cares this is on a registered copy less than a year old.

First paragraph - incorrect.
Second paragraph - usually your own fault.
Third paragraph - insanity.
Fourth paragraph - personal choice.
Fifth paragraph - registration is optional, activation is mandatory.

Simply put - other than you making a statement that you are considering not
using a Microsoft product anymore - everything you stated is due to
ignorance of the facts about activation, poor maintenance of the machine
(ignorance of how to properly maintain a Windows computer) and/or just
ranting and raving because of some unknown event that has happened to you.

You can activate your copy of Windows XP (if an OEM copy - 'on the same
hardware' should be added) an unlimited number of times. Depending on how
often and the circumstance - you may find yourself required to call and
actibvate over the telephone instead of the Internet.

While there are bugs in Windows XP - a majority of computer problems
(evident even by these newsgroups) are user issues - either by direct
interaction or by the attempted use of obselete hardware/software. A
reinstall of a system should hardly ever be "necessary" - given proper
maintenance. Yes - hardware can and will go bad - this is a valid reason -
and it can be disheartening to find out that you had purchased an OEM
version of Windows XP and when your motherboard and hard drive fried from
that lightning strike - the copy of Windows XP went with it because you
cannot get the manufacturer to replace it since your PC is out of warranty.
To be perfectly honest however, that would usually be the fault of the OEM
that sole you the PC for customizing the copy of Windows XP so much.. If
your machine was that old and you replaced the motherboard and hard drive
and reinstalled Windows - you would probably activate it with no problem if
the copy of Windows was a generic OEM.

The fact about activation is it is unlimited - you can do it as often as you
want as many times as you want and Microsoft has even stated that when
Windows XP support ends, the activation necessity will somehow be "removed".
If you are having trouble with activation by Internet - you try telephone
activation.. if you have to talk to a MS representative instead of the
automated line - you tell them your story.. Then you are reactivated. To
put it in simplest terms - if you wanted to reactivate your copy of Windows
XP without interacting with anyone - you could reinstall and do so every 121
days.

First of all - what caused this rant? Can we help solve this problem so
that your machine will not be so unreasonably unstable that you have to
reinstall this often? Are you performing tests opf some sort that requires
you to start at a certain point every so often? Have you ever considered an
imaging product to backup your system after a fresh installation/activation?

If this was more of a trolling expedition - I expect you to get a few more
hits with or without your further participation. Otherwise - perhaps you
should consider learning about your system, how to secure and stabilize it
and how to basically maintain/troubleshoot it and see if all of your worries
don't just go away... I'll wait for an answer before I assist further..

 

[Gary Tsang]

Would you care to show us where this 25 use limit is pointed out?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Did MS tell you in lettering large enough that didn't require a lawyer that you
only bought 25 uses of it ?

Well, no. Why should they? There's no such limitation/

Seems every time you upgrade your machine, crash, have to reinstall the os
etc.. in general come up face to face with every bug MS is capable of throwing
at you, and every time you have to activate brings you closer to having to ask
every time one of these annoyances crashes you for permission to use your
machine again from someone so bored of reading the same numbers over and over
again all day long that you seriously consider taking a hammer to the machine ?

Perhaps you should spend a little time learning how to use and maintain
a computer, rather than mindlessly venting near-gibberish.

And they wonder why there's piracy... This time next year after my 50th
activation are they going to tell I can' activate at all ?

Nope. That is, assuming that you know so little about computers and
software that you actually have to re-install the OS 50 times.

I'm thinking I'll say goodbye to MS long before I reach that date.

If you can't manage to get a Windows PC to run without problem for a
year or two, I'd pay to watch you try Linux. It'd be a laugh-riot.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Husky

Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate
24 times really shouldn't own a computer..


--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User

"If hard work were such a wonderful thing, surely the rich would have kept
it all to themselves." - Lane Kirkland

 

[Husky]

There is no limit to the number of times you can activate
Windows XP installed on the same computer. If you are
unable to activate via the internet, then select the alternative
option to "activate by phone".

How to activate Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307890

If you haven't upgraded your machine often enough, or re-installed the OS for
whatever reason, and activated the MS liar software a minimum of 25 times, you
don't know what you're talking about.

The software that calls you liar and thief starts every time you run the
machine.

I replaced wheel mice maybe 5-6 times. each one triggering something in the
liar monitor. I didn't bother to track it because activation took less than a
minute. Now every time something blows up and the liar software tells you to
reactivate, it's going to be a minimum of one hour listening to a machine that
can't help you, then handed off to someone where your language is a 2nd
language to them assuming they can read the numbers correctly the 1st few
times.
I guess they assumed the numbers they threw out could be argued as your fault,
assuming you hadn't written them down as they were said.

From now on every time this machine gets the urge, it's back to the same
endless garbage on EVERY activation until I do switch to a BETTER OS.. Where
are you Amiga ??????????

 

[Husky]

First paragraph - incorrect.
Second paragraph - usually your own fault.
Third paragraph - insanity.
Fourth paragraph - personal choice.
Fifth paragraph - registration is optional, activation is mandatory.

Simply put - other than you making a statement that you are considering not
using a Microsoft product anymore - everything you stated is due to
ignorance of the facts about activation, poor maintenance of the machine
(ignorance of how to properly maintain a Windows computer) and/or just
ranting and raving because of some unknown event that has happened to you.

You can activate your copy of Windows XP (if an OEM copy - 'on the same
hardware' should be added) an unlimited number of times. Depending on how
often and the circumstance - you may find yourself required to call and
actibvate over the telephone instead of the Internet.

While there are bugs in Windows XP - a majority of computer problems
(evident even by these newsgroups) are user issues - either by direct
interaction or by the attempted use of obselete hardware/software. A
reinstall of a system should hardly ever be "necessary" - given proper
maintenance. Yes - hardware can and will go bad - this is a valid reason -
and it can be disheartening to find out that you had purchased an OEM
version of Windows XP and when your motherboard and hard drive fried from
that lightning strike - the copy of Windows XP went with it because you
cannot get the manufacturer to replace it since your PC is out of warranty.
To be perfectly honest however, that would usually be the fault of the OEM
that sole you the PC for customizing the copy of Windows XP so much.. If
your machine was that old and you replaced the motherboard and hard drive
and reinstalled Windows - you would probably activate it with no problem if
the copy of Windows was a generic OEM.

The fact about activation is it is unlimited - you can do it as often as you
want as many times as you want and Microsoft has even stated that when
Windows XP support ends, the activation necessity will somehow be "removed".
If you are having trouble with activation by Internet - you try telephone
activation.. if you have to talk to a MS representative instead of the
automated line - you tell them your story.. Then you are reactivated. To
put it in simplest terms - if you wanted to reactivate your copy of Windows
XP without interacting with anyone - you could reinstall and do so every 121
days.

First of all - what caused this rant? Can we help solve this problem so
that your machine will not be so unreasonably unstable that you have to
reinstall this often? Are you performing tests opf some sort that requires
you to start at a certain point every so often? Have you ever considered an
imaging product to backup your system after a fresh installation/activation?

If this was more of a trolling expedition - I expect you to get a few more
hits with or without your further participation. Otherwise - perhaps you
should consider learning about your system, how to secure and stabilize it
and how to basically maintain/troubleshoot it and see if all of your worries
don't just go away... I'll wait for an answer before I assist further..

About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't reached the 25 modem
activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking about or in for.
That installation serial of yours is trash after 25 activations.

And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using their software a
bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine make that decision.

Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for more than
once ?

 

[Husky]

Would you care to show us where this 25 use limit is pointed out?

Hit the limit, they'll tell you in Spanish, Thai, or Yiddish.

 

[Husky]

Husky

Even if the activation limit was a reality, anybody who has to re-activate
24 times really shouldn't own a computer..

When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here.
25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all by voice to
a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international caller on the other
end when it fails.

You don't need to reinstall the OS 25 times, upgrading software, replacing old
worthless parts, upgrading hardware, any time you reboot the machine the liar
software checks your last few changes.

If you use something it acquires wear and tear. requiring upgrading, replacing
parts.

But no sense really arguing with the MS robot dogs. You all seem to have been
bought off ages ago by MS.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

About the only thing that can be said is if you haven't reached the
25 modem activation limit yet, you don't know what you're talking
about or in for. That installation serial of yours is trash after 25
activations.

No such limit - none - zero - zilch.

And still they miss the point that MS is calling anyone using their
software a bunch of liars and thieves. And they let a DUMB machine
make that decision.

No - that doesn't happen either.

Why should you have to 'ACTIVATE' something you've already paid for
more than once ?

You paid for the usage - not the product. Ever activated a credit card?

 

[Shenan Stanley]

Hit the limit, they'll tell you in Spanish, Thai, or Yiddish.

There is no limit. You are mistaken.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

When you hit it and MS hasn't bought you out get back here.
25 is the limit on the serial for your OS by modem. 26- xxx are all
by voice to a machine that's programmed to fail, and an international
caller on the other end when it fails.

Doesn't exist. No limit on activation.
You are just incorrect.
When you are wrong - you are just wrong - no matter what it is.
There is no limit on the number of times you can activate a license of
Windows XP.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

If you haven't upgraded your machine often enough, or re-installed
the OS for whatever reason, and activated the MS liar software a
minimum of 25 times, you don't know what you're talking about.

The software that calls you liar and thief starts every time you run
the machine.

I replaced wheel mice maybe 5-6 times. each one triggering something
in the liar monitor. I didn't bother to track it because activation
took less than a minute. Now every time something blows up and the
liar software tells you to reactivate, it's going to be a minimum of
one hour listening to a machine that can't help you, then handed off
to someone where your language is a 2nd language to them assuming
they can read the numbers correctly the 1st few times.
I guess they assumed the numbers they threw out could be argued as
your fault, assuming you hadn't written them down as they were said.

From now on every time this machine gets the urge, it's back to the
same endless garbage on EVERY activation until I do switch to a
BETTER OS.. Where are you Amiga ??????????

Okay - ignore all my other responses to you..
In your world you are correct. Deal with it there. =)

 

[Husky]

Doesn't exist. No limit on activation.
You are just incorrect.
When you are wrong - you are just wrong - no matter what it is.
There is no limit on the number of times you can activate a license of
Windows XP.

You aren't the only one that doesn't have a clue what you're talking about, so
let me provide PROOF.

http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg
http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg

The word "EXCEEDED" plainly means a LIMITATION in every dictionary I've ever
read.

Final comment by the operator this will happen EVERY time it needs reactivation
from now on.
Voice activation ONLY !

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Then you are the only one that has hit the fictitious 25 limit.
It is also noted that you ignored the request for a source for the 25
activation limit.
I have known some who are well beyond that.
Even the harshest critics of Microsoft activation know there is no such
limit.
You did not hit a limit, but you may think you have.
Post proof of your claim.
Also explain why you seem to be the only one affected.

 

[Husky]

Then you are the only one that has hit the fictitious 25 limit.
It is also noted that you ignored the request for a source for the 25
activation limit.
I have known some who are well beyond that.
Even the harshest critics of Microsoft activation know there is no such
limit.
You did not hit a limit, but you may think you have.
Post proof of your claim.
Also explain why you seem to be the only one affected.

Take your foot of your mouth long enough to read my previous post with PROOF1
and PROOF2 jpg's...

http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof1.jpg
http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/bev/proof2.jpg

It's amazing this loyalty to a clearly illegal company. Monopolies are
definitely illegal.
You may throw out brand x exists as some sort of argument that M$ is NOT a
monopoly, all that proves is that M$ doesn't create their monopoly the same as
criminals in the 20's did by eradicating the competition.

I wish there were another choice. Apple won't survive much longer unless they
merge with M$.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

I never even suggested "brand x", that is your attempted misdirection of
this thread.
Your reference to monopolies clearly shows how desperate you are to foist
this fiction.
Monopoly has nothing to do with this thread except for you to some how
change the subject from your lost point.

There is nothing on those links to support the 25 limit.
I suggest you look at those images again, especially the parts you seem to
have missed.
Hint: The word "error" is part of it.
That message will come up if the activation system believes that key has
been installed on more computers than licensed.
So if Windows has been installed on more than one computer you have exceeded
the number of activations.

You need to get your facts straight.

 

[David Candy]

Proof of what?

 

[Husky]

I never even suggested "brand x", that is your attempted misdirection of
this thread.
Your reference to monopolies clearly shows how desperate you are to foist
this fiction.
Monopoly has nothing to do with this thread except for you to some how
change the subject from your lost point.

There is nothing on those links to support the 25 limit.
I suggest you look at those images again, especially the parts you seem to
have missed.
Hint: The word "error" is part of it.
That message will come up if the activation system believes that key has
been installed on more computers than licensed.
So if Windows has been installed on more than one computer you have exceeded
the number of activations.

You need to get your facts straight.

The facts are straight. That 'LIMIT' "EXCEEDED' Means beyond a Limit.

MWD : Main Entry: ex·ceed
MWD : Pronunciation: ik-'sEd
MWD : Function: verb
MWD : Etymology: Middle English exceden, from Middle French exceder, from Latin excedere, from ex- + cedere to go
MWD : transitive senses
MWD : 1 : to extend outside of <the river will exceed its banks>
MWD : 2 : to be greater than or superior to
MWD : 3 : to go beyond a limit set by <exceeded his authority>
MWD : intransitive senses

As for monopolies. Denying facts about that is also ridiculous. M$ is
definitely a monopoly. And can get away with this ridiculous crap because of
that fact. It's been in court for that before.

My point has always been M$ exceeding their rights by taking rights away from
the individuals.

Once I paid for this that should have been the end of my association with M$.
Not reminded every time I upgrade something, or something BSOD's and reinstalls
drivers that I now have to actually talk to someone at M$ to ask permission to
use it again.
You don't buy a book, and have to call the author every time you want to turn a
page.

Yeah I'm real sorry M$ is the target of piracy not! They'd sell more if they
charged less and be a larger monopoly than they already are. But you can bet
there'd be less demand for piracy if the software were priced so the average
guy didn't have to mortgage their 1st born to buy it.

I just have no use for defending M$ or the code. At best it's a machine. Like a
coffee maker. Weekly, daily, monthly security updates to close the barn door
after the horse is gone. Stability is better with XP.. Better than what ? Why
is it even an issue ? Because it's the #1 source of the BSOD's that require
changing the setup of the machines to reach this ridiculous limit of
activations.