Wireless router

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Bill Ridgeway

I have a Livebox wireless broadband router.

Computer 1 will automatically detect and connect to the Livebox - but it
will not detect other active routers.

Computer 2 will detect but not connect (automatically or manually) to the
Livebox. However it will detect other active broadband routers and
(manually) connect to one which is not secured. Yes the WEP code has been
typed in.

I can't seem to resolve these inconsistencies.

How do you swap between automatic and manual connection?

How do you choose to see a list of routers within range?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Pavel A.

So maybe they scan different bands ( B/G or A ),
or channel sets. The latter can be enforced by the netcard vendor.

If Computer 1 runs a wireless utility of the netcard vendor, it may
disable WZC, this can explain why it does not see other routers.

Regards,
--PA

(followback to microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless)
 
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RJK

Not much to go on in your post !

I'm wondering if you have, or have had, at least one computer connected to
the Livebox (Inventel model ?)
with a rj45 (LAN/ethernet) lead so that you can access your Livebox firmware
menus, (using Internet Explorer - 192.168.1.1) ? ...and stored your ISP
"user account name" and password in there, ...and made the correct adsl
settings ?

I'm guessing you're struggling with Wireless G here ?
What sort of arial / wi-fi receiver is your "computer 1" using ?
....and the other one come to that.

....correct and matching settings in Livebox and Wi-Fi-receiving computer/s
"wireless connection/s" are everything,
DHCP enabled in Livebox ?
Double checked that the Security key (WPA-TKIP) match up in Livebox and
receiving PC, i.e. not using a letter "O" instead of a zero somewhere ?
...best to use WPA (pre-shared key) btw, ...WEP is much less secure.
....and that both the wireless router and recieving PC are both using exactly
the same encryption specification ? Labels for these can differ yet be the
same type !

Channel No. match in Livebox and receiving PC ?

"How do you swap between automatic and manual connection?"
...Once you've successfully wirelessly connected a PC to your
Livebox, unless
you manually terminate the connection - it should automatically establish a
connection, the next time you switch on the PC. I can't remember having to
change anything or select anything along the lines of "Connect
automatically," to get Dads' PC to connect.

"How do you choose to see a list of routers within range?"
....can't remember unless I go into the house and switch on Dads' PC, ...I
think you dig into the properties of the wi-fi connection in system tray and
"refresh" the list of wi-fi/routers in range.

....the more I ramble on, the more I think that you need describe a little
more what you've tried, and describe your hardware, and how it's currently
set up, a little more !

regards, Richard
 
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Edric

I have a Livebox wireless broadband router.

Computer 1 will automatically detect and connect to the Livebox - but it
will not detect other active routers.

Computer 2 will detect but not connect (automatically or manually) to the
Livebox. However it will detect other active broadband routers and
(manually) connect to one which is not secured. Yes the WEP code has been
typed in.

I can't seem to resolve these inconsistencies.

How do you swap between automatic and manual connection?

How do you choose to see a list of routers within range?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
Click to expand...
Why ask HERE? What does this have to do with XP? NOTHING.

Ask elsewhere
 
B

Bill Ridgeway

Do I claim to know everything about the subject? Do you know everything
about the subject? What is this NG for if not raise questions about
problems and learning from other peoples experience?

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway
 
B

Bill Ridgeway

Edric wrote <<Why ask HERE? What does this have to do with XP? NOTHING.>>

The wireless router works with the XP operating system. You haven't
criticised Jo-Anne who has also raised a wireless router question on this
NG!!

Bill Ridgeway
 
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RJK

You're quite right ! ... I simply asked a question as well, ...didn't intend
to offend !

regards, Richard
 
R

RJK

....now, now ...stop biting ! ...there are lots who have nothing better to
do other than trawl through NG's yelling OT !!!

regards, Richard

....anyhoo, back to the issue at hand ....in your OP, HOW are you getting on
with your Livebox ?

I've used a Livebox, (and had several serious fights with it), for a couple
of years ...or more. I found the wireless part in Livebox to be not very
reliable, and ended up switching off wireless in the Livebox, and connecting
a Linksys WAG354G (adsl modem/router/wireless) with a hard plastic ariel,
(that came with a WMP54G pci card on it), - to act as a dumb router. (I
added a high-gain arial to the WMP54G wifi/pci network card) Livebox had
to stay positioned as the "front" router in order to retain the Orange
"free" VOIP local telephone calls.

The software that came with the Linksys WMP54G pci card, (fitted into Dads'
PC in the house), was also not very good, (the updated software for it from
Linksys was just as bad), and the only way I could get that PC, with WMP54G
in it, to reliably connect to the Livebox/WAG354G (out in my office), was
to change the settings in the WMP54G XP network connection to use Windows
XP wifi, and not the dreadful Linksys stuff.

The WMP54G card would only intermittently connect to the Livebox, and even
after fitting WAG354G out in the office, WMP54G would again, only
intermittently connect to the WAG354G if the wireless connection was being
handled in the Linksys software. Once that was tweaked to "Let Windows XP
handle the connection," it was much more reliable.

I suspect that at least part of your problem/s is that even when you have
the correct settings, Livebox could be ignoring PC that are trying to
connect.
....this caused me a LOT of wasted time - a couple of years ago. i.e. you
need to be on the "alert" for that.

anyhooo, that was a little from my experience of the Livebox !

regards, Richard
 
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JohnO

Bill Ridgeway said:
Edric wrote <<Why ask HERE? What does this have to do with XP?
NOTHING.>>

The wireless router works with the XP operating system. You haven't
criticised Jo-Anne who has also raised a wireless router question on this
NG!!
Click to expand...

He's a troll. His schtick is to blow through various MS groups posting the
same thing. In this group he's the fly that won't stay out of the chip dip
at the weekend picnic.
 
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Bill Ridgeway

Thanks for your reply.

I don't have a problem with Computer 1. That connects to the Livebox OK. I
would like to know how to switch it from automatic to manual but that's only
so I can see what other broadband routers are available - not a practical
problem. That is, possibly, the answer to seeing (or not) the other
broadband routers are available.

Computer 2 is a Fujitu Siemens Amilo laptop with an Atheros AR50055G
Wireless Network Adapter. This does work as it will successfully connect to
an unsecured network. I have just discovered that by pressing the pairing
button on the Livebox it will also try to acquire network address but
doesn't actually connect.

What is the significance of the Channel number? I can change the Channel
number and Computer 1 will continue to connect OK. Indeed I can't see where
to change the Channel No. in either Computer 1 or Computer 2.

Is the "G" reference in the adapter a reference to "Wireless G" and what is
its significance? I wonder are you pointing to an incompatibility between
the wireless adapter and the Livebox? Is this is an unresolvable
compatibility issue or a resolvable configuration issue?

DHCP is enabled in the Livebox. The security keys match.

I have just noticed that the system information from the Livebox now has a
connection mode ADSL whereas a print from a previous Livebox shows it as
G.DMDT. Is this significant? If it is I will have to work out how to
change the setting.

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Bill Ridgeway

The Wireless Network Adapter is an Atheros AR5005G. Apologies for the
finger stutter.

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Bill Ridgeway

I have spent many hours following up suggestions trial and (mainly) error,
and Richard's suggestions. I'm not going to let this one beat me! At one
time I had either Computer1 or Computer2 only working (which was an
improvement on only one working). I can get both computers talking to the
wireless router and the Internet by configuring the router to 'no security'.
This is not an acceptable remedy but at least it narrows the search for an
answer. Speaking of which?

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Edric

He's a troll. His schtick is to blow through various MS groups posting the
same thing. In this group he's the fly that won't stay out of the chip dip
at the weekend picnic.
Click to expand...
Only because they are in a zone that is not supposed to allow said
picnic.

Read the group title, dip. WINDOWSXP.HARDWARE. What does this post
have to do with the OS? NOTHING.
 
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Bill Ridgeway

Thanks. That would be a good idea except that
microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless is not available to me.

You say that being able to connect with no security is a good idea. It is
but only in that it has narrowed the possible cause of the problem. It is
not unreasonable to expect both computers to be able to use the internet
over a common wireless broadband. The only problem now is to find out why I
can't do it and fix it. I've run out of ideas. Any suggestions anyone?

Thanks.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Bill Ridgeway

Edric said:
Only because they are in a zone that is not supposed to allow said
picnic.

Read the group title, dip. WINDOWSXP.HARDWARE. What does this post
have to do with the OS? NOTHING.
Click to expand...

It would be most useful if, instead of complaining that I am posting to the
wrong NG, you could suggest which one(s) would be more appropriate. Then,
if I have access to them, I would quite gladly go and post there.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Tom [Pepper] Willett

Bill: If you use the MS news server, they're available.

: Thanks. That would be a good idea except that
: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless is not available to me.
:
: You say that being able to connect with no security is a good idea. It is
: but only in that it has narrowed the possible cause of the problem. It is
: not unreasonable to expect both computers to be able to use the internet
: over a common wireless broadband. The only problem now is to find out why
I
: can't do it and fix it. I've run out of ideas. Any suggestions anyone?
:
: Thanks.
:
: Bill Ridgeway
:
: : > Right ! ...that was obviously an excellent result, (your test with no
: > encryption).
: > ...before I start rambling, I should have metioned that -
: > microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless would have been a much
better
: > place to have posted ! :)
: > http://www.ezlan.net/index.html is often in there, try his:-
: > http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
: > ...wonderful site !
: >
: > regards, Richard
: >
: >
: > : >>I have spent many hours following up suggestions trial and (mainly)
error,
: >>and Richard's suggestions. I'm not going to let this one beat me! At
one
: >>time I had either Computer1 or Computer2 only working (which was an
: >>improvement on only one working). I can get both computers talking to
the
: >>wireless router and the Internet by configuring the router to 'no
: >>security'. This is not an acceptable remedy but at least it narrows the
: >>search for an answer. Speaking of which?
: >>
: >> Bill Ridgeway
: >>
: >
: >
:
:
 
B

Bill Ridgeway

microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless is not available to me either
from either microsoft, aioe, albasini or readfreenews.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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Paul

Bill said:
microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless is not available to me either
from either microsoft, aioe, albasini or readfreenews.

Bill Ridgeway
Click to expand...

I use AIOE and just subscribed to it. I use Thunderbird as my news reader,
and typed "wireless" in the newsgroup search box, and this is in the list
at AIOE. 337 articles, from June19 to today.

microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless

Paul
Tom [Pepper] Willett said:
Bill: If you use the MS news server, they're available.

: Thanks. That would be a good idea except that
: microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless is not available to me.
:
: You say that being able to connect with no security is a good idea. It
is
: but only in that it has narrowed the possible cause of the problem. It
is
: not unreasonable to expect both computers to be able to use the internet
: over a common wireless broadband. The only problem now is to find out
why
I
: can't do it and fix it. I've run out of ideas. Any suggestions anyone?
:
: Thanks.
:
: Bill Ridgeway
:
: : > Right ! ...that was obviously an excellent result, (your test with no
: > encryption).
: > ...before I start rambling, I should have metioned that -
: > microsoft.public.windows.networking.wireless would have been a much
better
: > place to have posted ! :)
: > http://www.ezlan.net/index.html is often in there, try his:-
: > http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
: > ...wonderful site !
: >
: > regards, Richard
: >
: >
: > : >>I have spent many hours following up suggestions trial and (mainly)
error,
: >>and Richard's suggestions. I'm not going to let this one beat me! At
one
: >>time I had either Computer1 or Computer2 only working (which was an
: >>improvement on only one working). I can get both computers talking to
the
: >>wireless router and the Internet by configuring the router to 'no
: >>security'. This is not an acceptable remedy but at least it narrows
the
: >>search for an answer. Speaking of which?
: >>
: >> Bill Ridgeway
: >>
: >
: >
:
:
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