WinXP Fax question

[Henry]

I have WinXP Pro SP3 with the FAX program that comes with it. I can FAX just
fine, but only one page at a time. I go to Print/FAX and follow the Wizard.

Does anyone know how to FAX more than the one page all in the same FAX? I'd
at times like to FAX multiple pages but find I have to do them one at a time
and label them on the cover sheet....Page1, Page2, etc.

Is there a way to get the FAX program to ask for more pages than just the one?

Thanks

Henry

 

[Henry]

Any program that prints can use the OS FAX printer device. Thus one can
take any document and print it to the FAX printer and it will be sent as
a FAX just as if it was being printed to paper.

I understand all that and said so in my original post. My question is, how
do I make the FAX program FAX more than one sheet at a time?

Henry

 

[Henry]

No you don't get it. You said you used the wizard. I am not talking
about using any wizard guiding you through a process.

What I am saying is you print to fax just like you would have to a HP
laser or a Epson inkjet..

Take a 5 page MS Word document and open it.

Now go to print it.

From the list of available printers choose FAX.

Now print. It will go out as a 5 page fax to the number you choose
through the Printo FAX dialogue.
{ Actually 6 pages if you include tha FAX cover page }

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't part
of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together. Suppose I
have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then have 5 .jpg
files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

Henry

 

[BillW50]

In Henry typed:

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that
aren't part of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages
together. Suppose I have a 5 page document that I fill out and then
scan. I then have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send each one
separately?
By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

Ah. I believe some fax software can join multiple faxes into one. This
sounds like what you are looking for. I also seem to remember there are
utilities that also can do the very same. Although they can only do so
with certain file types. Meaning they only support so many different
types of files.

 

[Chris S.]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't
part of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together.
Suppose I have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then
have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

Henry

You include the 5 .jpg "pages" in a Word document and "print" that document
to the FAX.

Chris

 

[David H. Lipman]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't part of the same
document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together. Suppose I have a 5 page document
that I fill out and then scan. I then have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send
each one separately?

By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

That's not a wizard per se. That's just a printer control dialogue. The difference is it
adds the use of an address book and a cover page.

Now we are getting down to the problem which wasn't stated in the original post. There
are many ways to concatenate the 5 separate pages into one document. Chris S. provided
one. Another is use the distiller-like capability of a program like PDFCreator where you
can print multiple documents into one PDF and then print the one PDF, multi page document,
to the FAX printer.

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't
part of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together.
Suppose I have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then
have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

Henry

Irfan can create a multipage tif or pdf.

 

[Paul]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't
part of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together.
Suppose I have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then
have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

By the way, in your example the FAX wizard does come up.

Henry

My problem here, is I have no way to test any of this.

Apparently in Vista, the Windows Fax and Scan presents an "Outlook" type
dialog. And I could see mention elsewhere than this article, that you can
add items to a fax by making them "attachments". So you'd compose a main
page, and if you wanted to add five other pages, you'd make five attachments.
If the attachments occupied a page each, you might even achieve a degree of
control over the "composition" of the sent fax.

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Windows-Vistas-Fax-Scan.html

Now, the Fax program in WinXP, probably isn't based on that model, or
the idea of unified messaging. So then the question would be, what is
the base model of faxing in the older OSes ?

The only test I could do, is:

1) Go to Add/Remove Programs. Go to Windows Components. Install the WinXP FAX stuff.
2) Go to Firefox. Select a news site. Select Print. In the printers, FAX is an option.
Firefox is one of the few applications that keeps a "Print To File" checkbox, even
when FAX is selected as a "printer".
3) I went ahead and printed a web page. It took three letter sized pages.
4) I uploaded this to Imageshack.us

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7762/clunk.tif

If you enter that link, it tries to download immediately, rather than let you
view it in the web browser.

What that file turns out to be, is a "multi-page TIFF". The Windows picture viewer
application handles it properly, by putting a "page number" dialog at the bottom
of the screen, so you can select one of the three pages.

If I open the file in GIMP (a free photo editor), it converts the file into
a "three layer" image. Each page becomes a layer. This is highly inconvenient.

I was hoping, to cook up a recipe involving creating a "multi-page TIFF"
like the one in the example, and feed that to the WinXP fax and scan,
but didn't get very far (the FAX console gave me the busy cursor). Since
you have all the hardware to test it, you could give it a try. You could even
try sending that "clunk.tif" file as a test.

GIMP says the pixel dimensions of the chunk.tif file are 1728x2200.
The resolution is listed as 204x196 ppi. There are two colors in the image.
"Print size" claims to be 8.471 x 11.224 inches, which doesn't exactly match
8.5 x 11.

Anyway, that's as far as I got. Time to tear out (uninstall) the FAX package now

Paul

 

[Char Jackson]

You include the 5 .jpg "pages" in a Word document and "print" that document
to the FAX.

There are multiple solutions, but that's the way I do it.

 

[Paul]

What that file turns out to be, is a "multi-page TIFF". The Windows
picture viewer
application handles it properly, by putting a "page number" dialog at
the bottom
of the screen, so you can select one of the three pages.

If I open the file in GIMP (a free photo editor), it converts the file
into
a "three layer" image. Each page becomes a layer. This is highly
inconvenient.

If you open a multipage tiff in IrfanView (another free photo editor),
it lets you view (and AFAICR print, if you want) each image separately.
(I think it will also print them one after the other too.)

I was hoping, to cook up a recipe involving creating a "multi-page TIFF"
like the one in the example, and feed that to the WinXP fax and scan,
but didn't get very far (the FAX console gave me the busy cursor). Since
you have all the hardware to test it, you could give it a try. You
could even
try sending that "clunk.tif" file as a test.

GIMP says the pixel dimensions of the chunk.tif file are 1728x2200.
The resolution is listed as 204x196 ppi. There are two colors in the
image.
"Print size" claims to be 8.471 x 11.224 inches, which doesn't exactly
match
8.5 x 11.

(I think you mean dpi.) Probably a simulation of a printer that can't
print to the edge of the paper for the width, though can't think why for
the length (continuous roll?).[/QUOTE]

The tool reported "ppi" and so did I. I'm just reciting verbatim, the
claimed properties. It's to show it has roughly the resolution you'd
expect for a FAX, only the math is a little off for reasons that
aren't apparent.

Paul

 

[VanguardLH]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't part
of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together. Suppose I
have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then have 5 .jpg
files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

Your scanner's software doesn't have a "fax" function (so it will keep
the document open after each scan so you can add another page)? If not,
just how does your scanner save its output? If it saves to a file
(e.g., PDF) then doesn't it also let you scan multiple pages into that
output file?

You didn't identify the brand and model of your scanner. The
manufacturer doesn't have a web site where you can get their software,
especially the driver needed for their scanner (in case you don't have
the original CD that came with the scanner or need a newer version of
their software)?

 

[Jo-Anne]

I know all that. My question is if I have 5 separate pages that aren't

part of the same document, how do I get to FAX all 5 pages together.
Suppose I have a 5 page document that I fill out and then scan. I then
have 5 .jpg files. How do I not have to send each one separately?

I too have gotten a bunch of separate JPGs when I scan multiple pages.
Thanks to your question, I checked my scanner manual and discovered that if
I set it up to create either TIFF or PDF files, it can scan multiple pages
into one file. The default is JPG, and that's what I've used all along, not
realizing I could do something else.

I'd then bring the individual JPG scans into FastStone Image Viewer (a
really good image manipulator). There, I'd click on Create, then Multi-Page
File Builder. I'd put all the pages I wanted into a single file and save it
as either TIFF or PDF (I could also save the file as "animated GIF").

Now that I know I can do multiple page documents right in the scanner, I
should be able to save the extra steps. I assume that once the multi-page
scans are in a single file, the whole file will be faxed properly. I hope
your scanner works this way too.

Jo-Anne

 

[Ken Springer]

I have WinXP Pro SP3 with the FAX program that comes with it. I can FAX just
fine, but only one page at a time. I go to Print/FAX and follow the Wizard.

Does anyone know how to FAX more than the one page all in the same FAX? I'd
at times like to FAX multiple pages but find I have to do them one at a time
and label them on the cover sheet....Page1, Page2, etc.

Is there a way to get the FAX program to ask for more pages than just the one?

I used to use WinFAX to do exactly what you want, IIRC.

If you don't get the XP Fax to do what you want, pick a search engine or
4 and search on fax software. Both commercial and free software is
available.


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Ken

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