Winodws XP

[Alan]

Ron,

Is it okay if I send the replies that I posted -- which HAVEN'T shown up
here -- to your website account?

Alan

 

[Ron Badour]

Seems like it made it here anyway. Do you post directly to the MS server:
msnews.microsoft.com ?

I am hoping that John will email me the comments he is having trouble with
so I can try posting them.

 

[Alan]

I've been using the MS Server to try to post them.

I'm now going to use my Supernews account to post them, and see if they show
up there....and ultimately Google.

Alan

 

[Ron Badour]

Yes. By the way, I see two posts that you made--one at 6:21 and the other
at 6:32 and they appear to be ones you are not seeing.

 

[Alan]

Yes, those are the posts.

I DO see them using my Supernews server.

Alan

 

[Ron Badour]

Well, I can obviously see them and I am connected to msnews.microsoft.com
which is the server name listed on my news account, server tab. Check your
settings and if they do not mirror mine, that is probably the problem. Once
thing for sure--no censorship is involved. John still has not emailed the
comments he says he is having trouble with.

 

[Ron Badour]

As a matter of interest, I see two posts made by Alias: Service Pack 3,
7:00 pm and Reinstalling XP Pro, 6:57.

By the way, I forgot to include one more thing that could be cause for posts
to be removed. MS has rules of conduct for its newsgroups and constant
violation of those rules could result in a person being banned from posting
on a MS Server.

I see some of the posts from pc*butts*1 removed but I don't know why. He
includes in his posts that he is an MS MVP and while that may be true, he is
not a Microsoft MVP which is implied but I don't think that is the reason
his posts are removed--I may be wrong.

 

[Alan]

Ron,

I'm also using msnews.microsoft.com for the Microsoft Server name. And I
have NO message rules set for either my OE emails or newsgroups.

If I were using an incorrect setting, I wouldn't be able to post or see ANY
messages in this group, would I?

It seems to be selected messages that I can't post -- or see -- using
msnews.microsoft.com.

However I CAN post and see them using a different newsgroup server.

Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean.

Alan

 

[Alan]

Ron,

Well, YOU might be seeing Alias' posts, but I can't see them using the
Microsoft server.

I CAN see those posts, however, using my Supernews server account.

Clearly, something is a bit screwy here.

I suppose if I want to ensure that I see all posts by everyone -- without
filtering or auto-deleting --it's better to NOT use the Microsoft servers.

Alan

 

[John John (MVP)]

The posts are showing up in the Google archives but not on the MS
servers. The posts that I made were rather tame and bland if you ask me
but someone doesn't want to see the subject mentioned here, not by me or
not by others, as clearly demonstrated by your efforts to copy and post
the same text to your post.

John

 

[Bob I]

maybe the word porn?

Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post
must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was
replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it
on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" name.

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d


(Look for post #27)

The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers
that be somewhere out there...

John

 

[Bob I]

Guess not.

maybe the word porn?

 

[John John (MVP)]

With he the word c-e-n-s-o r-e-d maybe.

John

Guess not.

 

[Bob I]

Trying censored and alias

Guess not.

 

[John John (MVP)]

Try it with p-o-r-n

John

Trying censored and alias

 

[mae]

Ron, I agree with you.
Perhaps the one message got lost when he changed the subject, plus messages
do get lost, and the filters aren't perpect..
I also see gobs of messages from alias.

mae

| John
|
| Something else is going on as my reply to you had Alias in it and it made
it
| to the thread. Let's see if this one makes it--ALIAS, alias, Alias. By
the
| way, I post directly to the MS Server (msnews.microsoft.com) using Outlook
| Express
|
| --
| Regards
|
| Ron Badour
| MS MVP 1997 - 2008
|
|
| | > It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it
| > to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason
enough
| > to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no
| > longer express my opinion about the subject!
| >
| > John
| >
| > Ron Badour wrote:
| >
| >> I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have never
seen
| >> nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS server merely because
| >> there were discussions of or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon
the
| >> request of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they contain
blatant
| >> spam, contain excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could
| >> contain dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously
| >> and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are critical of
| >> MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts made by Alias so I
don't
| >> know what might be objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being
| >> removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person could lose
his/her
| >> job at MS if he/she removed a post because of a grudge.
| >
|
|

 

[Bob I]

Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-)

 

[John John (MVP)]

No, that isn't the case, other messages with different contents made it
through but multiple attempts to post the same message contents to
different parts of the thread failed.

John

 

[John John (MVP)]

I meant censored porn.

John

Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-)

 

[Bob I]

Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it.