WIndows XP/Vista Networking.

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Guest

I know there has been a lot of posts on this subject, but none that have
helped me so my apologies if this is redundent of past posts.

I just bought a new Vista Home Premium HP laptop. Got it on release day, Jan
30. It refuses to see any XP computers on the network.

I have internet access, it works on the vista laptop, but cant see any
non-Vista computers on the network its accessing the internet through.

I tried installing the LLTP protocol on one of the XP computers..no go.
I tried taking down the firewalls..still no luck
All computers are in the same workgroup
Network discovery is on and all the file/printer/media sharing buttons are on.
XP computers are XP Pro.
tried connecting through different lines/wireless routers on the same
network(I am in a fraternity house and we have 3 wireless routers all
connecting to the same base network/internet router.)
The XP computers can see my vista machine, however.

One of my brothers was a Beta tester for Vista and has been running vista
for some time. He has ultimate and can see everyone,(even the XP Pro comps) I
can see him, and he can see me, but I cannot see the other computers. He has
taken a look at my laptop and is just as confused as i am in this matter. He
has no idea why my Vista laptop wont work.

Thanks for any help
Bob
 
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Guest

That's the same problem I am currently encountering.
Same version of Vista - Windows Vista Home Premiium.
I bought the laptop Jan.30 with the company supplier of Aspire 5610 series.

I have 1 network at home, with workgroup seted same on all my pc's.

I have spent over 8 hours oover the last few days trying to figure out the
probelm, and it haas brought to my attention that buying windows vista was a
bad choice.


I hope this problem could be solved ASAP. It is driving me crazy because I
have a presentation next monday, and I need to use this new Vista laptop - my
only laptop to do the presentation. The presentation is on my desktop, and I
don't have any usb flash drives.
 
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Guest

I also bought an HP notebook on January 30, (with Vista Home Premium) and
have been trying ever since to install a network printer. I'm logged onto
the network to the extent that I can access network programs, and the
internet works. But, the new Vista notebook cannot see any other computers
or printers. As long as I never need to print anything, I guess I'm in good
shape!
I've checked all of the obvious things, (workgroup name the same, sharing
turned on, etc) but since the setup screens for the networking are all so
much different, I must be missing something everytime.
 
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Guest

Dear Bob,
If you are using Norton or any other firewalls, turn it off, norton
firewalls are blocking network access as well.

That should work. Try a few times.

My Laptop came with norton, and when I disabld norton web browsing section,
everything worked.

Good Luck~! Bon Courage
 
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Guest

THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!! AND THANK YOU AGAIN :)

I'm NOT loosing my mind (how comforting!)

Tabz :)
 
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Guest

Thank you so much!!!! IT was Norton( I had already done the LLTP thing.) my
comp came with Norton and I didnt even think to check it....turning of
Norton's Firewall worked!!! thanks again I appreciate it

Bob
 
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Guest

I did this and now the vista computer recognizes the xp laptop, but laptop
still will not see printer. can you help me know what to do on the laptop
 
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Guest

Having sharing allowed and all the other required share/network settings
correct in Vista and XP machines I could not access Vista shared
foldews/printers from XP machines, however vice-versa I could. Now, after
three days I found the solution:

My Visata machine came with McAfee antivirus preloaded. Both the Windows and
McAfee firewalls were on. As soon as I disabled the McAfee firewall the
network sharing worked as intended!

Doing a little follow-up research, I then turned off Windows firewall and
re-enabled the McAfee firewall, as well as changed the security level setting
in McAfee. At this point I was back to the "no-access" problem so I disabled
McAfee firewall and re-enabled Windows firewall. The network worked like a
carm once again. Now I assume there is an exception check box like "Allow
network folder/pinter sharing" in McAfee's firewall like there is in windows
firewall if you are wanting to use McAfee's firewall instead. Also, this may
be the same issue if you have some other another firewall enabled.
 
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Bruce Sanderson

The LLTD Responder is absolutely NOT REQUIRED for pre-Vista Windows
computers to interact with Vista via Windows Networking.

The LLTD responder is only needed if you want pre-Vista computers to be
properly placed in the Network Map window - the document at
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...8eb8-45af-b063-4f50f5a77b291033.mspx?mfr=true
only discusses and only applies to, the Network Map feature in Vista,. not
any other networking capability.

If you can not access folder or printer shares on Vista computers from a
pre-Vista computer, or vice-versa, the problem is not the lack of the LLTD
Responder, it's something else.

You may need to enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP for TCP/IP V4 in the Network
Connection's properties:

1. right click the Network icon in the Notification Area
2. click Network and Sharing Center
3. click Manage network connections
4. make sure that Network Discovery is On (note - in a Windows Domain, this
may need to be enabled by an administrator using a GPO)
5. make sure that File Sharing is On
6. make sure that Public folder sharing is Off
7. if you have a printer locally installed that you want other computers to
use, make sure Printer Sharing is On
8. click Manage network connections (left pane)
9. right click the Local Area Connection (or whatever network connection is
in use - e.g. a wireless connection)
10. select Properties
11. click Continue in the UAC prompt (or supply Administrative username and
password)
12. select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)
13. click Properties
14. click Advanced...
14. select the WINS tab
15. select the Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP radio button
16. click OK; click OK; click Close - this change will take affect
immediately - no need to logoff or restart

Also, as stated in other posts in this thread and others - make sure you
don't have a third party firewall blocking the ports or programs needed
 
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Guest

I tried most everything in this fourm and my vista machine can not ping my xp
machine, but at least my xp machine shows up in my network.

I spend all day and still no luck.


Kevin
 
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Bruce Sanderson

Kevin: I'm trying to reproduce your problem here and thus hopefully help you
out, but I'm missing some vital information.

1. is your XP computer running XP Home or XP Professional?
2. do you have Service Pack 2 installed on the XP computer?
3. what exactly does "xp machine shows up in my network" mean - where does
it "show up"?
4. what steps do you take to get the Error code 0x80070035 Network path was
not found?

5. If your XP computer has Service Pack 2 installed, check in the Windows
Firewall, Exceptions - does the File and Print Sharing item have a check
mark? If not, add a check mark, close the Firewall dialog box, then try
again from the Vista computer. If the File and Print Sharing exception is
disabled, the XP computer may not even respond to ping requests.

--
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders

It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
 
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Guest

Well as Others Ive lost all Home networked printers and share drives, In Xp
it all worked fine after the upgrade to vista Guess what I can see the XP
Computer but can not access a shared drive or shared printers, after a three
day try I fill like Im doing something wrong, Xp Computer can not see the
Vista computer either, The error tells me its dsn, But Im running a cable and
can see the modem fine, Yes vista can see the WWW and check email fine, but
as for the rest a little help
 
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Guest

I can not use my wireless printer and I tried solution below but it did not
help? As did previous people, I picked my computer up Jan 30 and haven't been
able to print since... I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance...

Jeri
 
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Roger B

I had a similar problem with my Vista laptop being unable to connect to my
XP desktop. Another post somewhere in the Microsoft forums suggested
enabling NetBIOS on the Vista machine (it's in the advanced settings of the
TCP/IPv4 protocol, under the WINS tab). That did the trick for me.

Roger B
 
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Guest

Thank you Bruce for ideals to check, One advice was to remove netbios from
the xp computer and a few other option. I tried what you asked and It still
doesnt work, Im seeing the xp home computer in the vista map fine but still
have a access issue both ways, Im still open for ideals, Im running two
systems connected to a hub, File sharing and printsharing is on the xp
computer, usb hard drive, usb printer and a lpt1 print both hps. a hard wired
network, I have even tried my laptop, but Im sure it will work fine because
its still xp
 
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Guest

I had a similar problem with not being able to access Vista folders from Xp
machine, and running NIS 2007. I discovered that Norton was not the problem,
but a setting in the share properties.

1. Right click the Vista folder to share and Select share.
2. In the drop down box select All (everyone in this list) click add then
click share.
3. Also make sure Norton Firewall rulkes are set to allow all for Windows
File Sharing.

This worked for me wihout uninstalling or turning anything in Norton off!
 
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kanjana

After all the window vista recommended set up, I still had to go into Norton to allow port 137-139 for all my local IPs to get all working.
Now I am trying to get my friend's window vista that come with McAfee to do the same, but still have no luck.

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http://www.eggheadcafe.com
 
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Guest

OMG Tammy and to all: this is the same thing with my Toshiba laptop running
Vista home Premium. What is going on here is it the Program it'self? I also
can not network a print thur my laptop, and can't print HORSE POOP..
 

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