Windows XP OEM

[Guest]

I have decided to go to electronic fry's in wednesday september 6,2006 to
purchase Windows XP Home OEM. Before, I need to make sure I understand this
install process.

1. I have a Dell GX1 system and it was sold with Windows 2000, it got
corrupted, and I do not have the Windows 2000 CD, nor it does not have a
restore solution. I want to purchase Windows XP Home OEM, less than $100
dollars, in Fry's Electronics, since its an OEM version, can I install it on
the Dell system? I dont mind if I lose my information stored on the hard disk
with Windows 2000. Can I install Windows xp home oEM without the Windows 2000
CD?

2. Is installing Windows XP OEM the same steps as installing Windows XP
retail version, such as the "press any ket to boot from CD" or its different?

Thank you for your time and Effort,

Edgar

 

[Guest]

You seem to have a good understanding, pretty much the same, except for the
OEM version is locked to that one computer, you stand a chance if the hd
crashes of having to get an entire new copy of XP.
if you replace the mother board be expecting to get another copy of XP.

 

[--Alias--]

You seem to have a good understanding, pretty much the same, except for the
OEM version is locked to that one computer, you stand a chance if the hd
crashes of having to get an entire new copy of XP.
False.

if you replace the mother board be expecting to get another copy of XP.

False.

Where do you get your information, Sgopus?

Alias

 

[--Alias--]

I have decided to go to electronic fry's in wednesday september 6,2006 to
purchase Windows XP Home OEM. Before, I need to make sure I understand this
install process.

1. I have a Dell GX1 system and it was sold with Windows 2000, it got
corrupted, and I do not have the Windows 2000 CD, nor it does not have a
restore solution. I want to purchase Windows XP Home OEM, less than $100
dollars, in Fry's Electronics, since its an OEM version, can I install it on
the Dell system? I dont mind if I lose my information stored on the hard disk
with Windows 2000. Can I install Windows xp home oEM without the Windows 2000
CD?
Yes.


2. Is installing Windows XP OEM the same steps as installing Windows XP
retail version, such as the "press any ket to boot from CD" or its different?

Yes. Be sure to format and partition your hard drive with XP to get rid
of Windows 2000.

Thank you for your time and Effort,

Edgar

You're welcome.

Alias

 

[Guest]

False.

Where do you get your information, Sgopus?

Where else from out your rear end.
it's not false, OEM is tied to one pc, argue all you want, it will do you no
good.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

I have decided to go to electronic fry's in wednesday september
6,2006 to purchase Windows XP Home OEM. Before, I need to make sure I
understand this install process.

1. I have a Dell GX1 system and it was sold with Windows 2000, it got
corrupted, and I do not have the Windows 2000 CD, nor it does not
have a restore solution. I want to purchase Windows XP Home OEM, less
than $100 dollars, in Fry's Electronics, since its an OEM version,
can I install it on the Dell system? I dont mind if I lose my
information stored on the hard disk with Windows 2000. Can I install
Windows xp home oEM without the Windows 2000 CD?

Yes, if you are willing to do a clean installation rather than an upgrade.
OEM versons do clean installations only

2. Is installing Windows XP OEM the same steps as installing Windows
XP retail version, such as the "press any ket to boot from CD" or its
different?

Yes.

However, I almost always recommend the Retail Upgrade version instead of the
OEM one, because almost anyone
either has a previous qualifying version, or can buy a used copy of Windows
98 very cheaply--for far less than the difference in price for the Full
version.

What I *don't* recommend is buying an OEM copy, since they are usually
around the same price as an Upgrade copy and come with several restrictions,
the most severe of which is that its license ties it permanently to the
firstcomputer it's installed on. It can never legally be moved to another
computer, sold, or given away. .

 

[Guest]

in fact read this Oh annoying one!

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm

 

[--Alias--]

Where else from out your rear end.
Charming.

it's not false, OEM is tied to one pc, argue all you want, it will do you no
good.

I didn't say it wasn't. Please read for content.

Alias

 

[Rock]

You seem to have a good understanding, pretty much the same, except for the
OEM version is locked to that one computer, you stand a chance if the hd
crashes of having to get an entire new copy of XP.
if you replace the mother board be expecting to get another copy of XP.

If the hard drive dies replace it and reinstall. A new copy of XP OEM
is not needed to replace a hard drive.

<snip>

 

[--Alias--]

If the hard drive dies replace it and reinstall. A new copy of XP OEM
is not needed to replace a hard drive.

<snip>

Or a motherboard. Or a NIC. Or a video card. Or a processor. Or RAM. Or ...

Alias

 

[Pop`]

If the hard drive dies replace it and reinstall. A new copy of XP OEM
is not needed to replace a hard drive.

<snip>

Correct! Boy what a bunch of idiots in some of those posts!

Pop1

 

[Pop`]

Or a motherboard. Or a NIC. Or a video card. Or a processor. Or RAM.
Or ...
Alias

Again, correct. Most would happen in any of those is having to call instead
of being able to do it over the 'net. Sounds like some of that previous
info came from pirates, actually.

 

[Ron Martell]

You seem to have a good understanding, pretty much the same, except for the
OEM version is locked to that one computer, you stand a chance if the hd
crashes of having to get an entire new copy of XP.
if you replace the mother board be expecting to get another copy of XP.

With a generic OEM version that would not be necessary, at least not
yet. Where it would be necessary is with a branded OEM version that
is BIOS Locked and then it could be avoided provided the replacement
motherboard was from the same OEM.

Hope this clarifies the situation.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

 

[Pop`]

I have decided to go to electronic fry's in wednesday september
6,2006 to purchase Windows XP Home OEM. Before, I need to make sure I
understand this install process.

1. I have a Dell GX1 system and it was sold with Windows 2000, it got
corrupted, and I do not have the Windows 2000 CD, nor it does not
have a restore solution. I want to purchase Windows XP Home OEM, less
than $100 dollars, in Fry's Electronics, since its an OEM version,
can I install it on the Dell system?

Yes, you can. Boot from the CD, delete the boot partition, recreate a boot
partition, and let 'er fly. The CD walks you thru all of it.

I dont mind if I lose my

information stored on the hard disk with Windows 2000. Can I install
Windows xp home oEM without the Windows 2000 CD?

Yes, you can. As long as you don't buy an "upgrade" version, it doesn't
matter what is already there. Or even if there is nothing there.

2. Is installing Windows XP OEM the same steps as installing Windows
XP retail version, such as the "press any ket to boot from CD" or its
different?

Yes. Obviously there will be minor differences, but it's the same process
in general.

Thank you for your time and Effort,

Edgar

Also:
XP's "Activation" process is differnt from 2k; no big deal unless you try
to pirate the software.

If you can afford the few extra dollars for the full retail version (not
the OEM version), you'll be able to take XP to another computer if/when the
old one goes belly up, or you buy a new one.
People often overlook the fact that, once you install XP OEM operating
system to a computer, it "belongs" to that computer and only that computer,
forever. Throwing out the computer throws out XP.
The Activation process will prevent you from being able to move it to a
new computer in the future. Then a few months later some people will buy a
newer, better computer, and are disappointed because they cannot Activate
that OEM version on their new computer.

If the part number of the operating system has "OEM" in it, it's OEM
software. Retail XP will not have the letters "OEM" in the part number or
key. Retail versions can be moved to another computer and activated, at
which time old computer technically has to have XP removed from it.

You can also change things, like adding or replacing a hard drive with an
OEM version. It will make you re-activate it when you do that, but it's a
minor detail. Sometimes you can do it online and other times you have to
make a toll free phone call.

It's a little hard to find, but all this information resides on the MS
website and is available to the public.

HTH,
Pop`

 

[q_q_anonymous]

You seem to have a good understanding, pretty much the same, except for the
OEM version is locked to that one computer, you stand a chance if the hd
crashes of having to get an entire new copy of XP.
if you replace the mother board be expecting to get another copy of XP.

<snip>

you're being very misleading by saying "locked" as if it's a technical
thing. You're really being misleading on purpose. Locked is a term
usually used in computers, as in software is locked.

You mean legally not allowed - on paper. You may be right on that.

But even then you are misleading.

if you install windows, change the MBRD(or perhaps any hardware), then
install windows again, then there's you're legally not allowed to
instal windows on that 'different' machine.

But he is talking about installing win xp without changing the MBRD.
And even if he did change the MBRD and then install win xp then he'd
still be fine.

Interestingly, his Dell PC has a legal version of windows. A licensed
copy. (if he has no CD does he lose his license - even though he bought
it from Dell, Dell have the details).
So if he buys a windows xp cd, he then has 2 licenses.
I wonder if the Dell windows xp license applies to non Dell windows XP.

Note-Dell Windows XP is the same as regular except that it only accepts
its own Dell serial number.

 

[-~Alias~-]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

if you install windows, change the MBRD(or perhaps any hardware), then
install windows again, then there's you're legally not allowed to
instal windows on that 'different' machine. <<<<<<<<<

Correction: 'updated' machine. MS allows upgrading a machine as much as
your little heart desires if you are running an OEM generic version of XP.

With Dell or HP, Packard Bell, et al, it's a different story as those
are branded OEM version of XP and the wise choice would be to stay as
far away as possible from branded OEM XP+Softwarecrap versions.

Alias

 

[-~Alias~-]

If you can afford the few extra dollars for the full retail version (not
the OEM version), you'll be able to take XP to another computer if/when the
old one goes belly up, or you buy a new one.
People often overlook the fact that, once you install XP OEM operating
system to a computer, it "belongs" to that computer and only that computer,
forever. Throwing out the computer throws out XP.

Um, there isn't a single component in a computer that can't be replaced
or upgraded, so there really isn't any need for "throwing out the
computer". Computers are *made* for upgrading. They *beg* to be upgraded
with each new, resource demanding app.

For what a retail UPGRADE (full retail isn't available in Spain. I guess
MS saw how popular Linux is with the younger set, that they didn't even
bother to market full retail here) costs me, I can buy three generic OEM
CDS with change. I'd be foolish to buy retail. I just checked Walmart
and you can almost get two OEM versions of Home for the price of a full
retail version in the USA and the OEM version comes with a cute mouse
;-). I fail to understand your recommendation to buy retail.

Alias

 

[Frank]

People write all kinds of things. (denying the holocaust, the inquisition etc). I have
upgraded my PC using the same old slipstreamed XPOEM. To a d815 to d845 to
d865 to d875 Intel main boards. If the OP bought and paid for a copy of XPHome
he should not even have to ask this question. These WPA, WGA, WGAN are
marketing scams.

 

[q_q_anonymous]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

if you install windows, change the MBRD(or perhaps any hardware), then
install windows again, then there's you're legally not allowed to
instal windows on that 'different' machine. <<<<<<<<<

Correction: 'updated' machine. MS allows upgrading a machine as much as
your little heart desires if you are running an OEM generic version of XP.

With Dell or HP, Packard Bell, et al, it's a different story as those
are branded OEM version of XP and the wise choice would be to stay as
far away as possible from branded OEM XP+Softwarecrap versions.

Alias

I was running under sgopus's assumptions. I see that your position is
different..
I don't intend to take a side yet because I haven't looked nito it. But
to you I would ask.

If upgrading a machine is ok, then surely if you "upgrade" (change) the
MBRD and case, then it's a dfiferent machine. What if you change every
part?

Now, if you read the post by sgopus, I think it's clear
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/oemeula.htm
That link, from an excellent source, i'm sure you're aware of that MVP,
says that changing the MBRD is defined as making it a different
machine. Changing any other component is an ugparde.

So unless you come up with a good argument, i'm leaning towards
sgopus's position - which is actually from microsoft. But perhaps,
unofficially from microsoft.

Maybe you've found a loophole in the official license that lets you
"upgrade" anything. But if you upgraded everything, or most things,
MBRD included, then that would make it a different machine.

perhaps others find a weakness in the official thing that lets you
upgarde nothing! I hear many positions taken though nobody quoting. I
haven't really read the license.

 

[Donald L McDaniel]

Yes. Be sure to format and partition your hard drive with XP to get rid
of Windows 2000.

He actually would have no other installation choice with a Generic OEM
copy of XP, since such OEMs MUST be installed "clean".

The OEM installer will allow one to do all the partitioning and
formatting necessary.

ALL Generic OEMs have EXACTLY ALL that a RETAIL copy has, except they
cannot do an "in-place upgrade of a previous OS".

It will be started in the same way a Retail copy is installed: He
will set the boot-order in his BIOS to CD/DVD first, put the XP
install media in, and reboot his machine. At the end of device
discovery (usually), a message will appear stating "Press a key to
boot from CD...".

Immediately pressing a key (such as <ENTER>) will cause the XP
installer to begin. If he fails to press a key immediately (within 5
seconds), the existing OS (if there is one) will start. If this
happens, all he has to do is reboot again, (no need to even wait for
the previous OS to finish loading--just recycle the power) and wait
for the "boot from CD" message to once again appear.

If there is no existing OS, he will get a message stating "no
operating system", in which case all he has to do is recycle the
power.

The Generic OEM will not allow him to keep his existing file structure
intact, so make he must sure to back up any data which is
irreplaceable on an external drive or disk.

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