Windows XP Fax

G

Guest

I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards
 
D

Duke Williams

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked
 
G

Guest

Duke Williams said:
Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked




Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?
 
L

Lem

A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house, that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
G

Guest

I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


Lem said:
A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house, that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
G

Guest

Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

WW said:
I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


Lem said:
Gunna said:
:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?

A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:
Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house, that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
D

Duke Williams

Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

WW said:
I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


Lem said:
Gunna wrote:

:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?


A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Duke,
I will let your info sink in and see how I go.
I'm not as quick catching on as I used to be but your help is getting the
grey matter moving.

Duke Williams said:
Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

WW said:
I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


:

Gunna wrote:

:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?


A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
L

Lem

WW said:
I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason why
the fax modem would fail given the above?

WW-

It's a little confusing when you get in the middle of a thread that
someone else started. You should really start one of your own.

However ...

If you had a phone line that was connected to a fax machine, and the fax
machine worked, all you need to do is to connect that phone line to the
modem in your computer.

You don't need to disconnect all other phones on that line. However, if
that phone line is used for regular voice calls, you should be aware
that if you set the Fax to "automatic answer" it will answer ALL
incoming calls -- voice or phone. You may not like this.

As to why you get a "receive error," the sad fact is that Windows XP Fax
Services is not the most robust application around. It is very fussy
about what fax modems it will work with. If your fax modem is "Designed
for Windows XP" you have a chance that it will work; if not, the odds
are much lower. See http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/FAQFAX.htm#_Toc88835142
 
G

Guest

Hi Duke,

I know i will sound a bit slow but here it is.
I have a line from wall socket going into adsl splitter.(LINE)
I have a line from phone going into splitter(LOCAL PHONE)
I have a line from ADSL Modem going into splitter(ADSL MODEM)
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Duke Williams said:
Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

WW said:
I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


:

Gunna wrote:

:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?


A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
L

Lem

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

I know i will sound a bit slow but here it is.
I have a line from wall socket going into adsl splitter.(LINE)
I have a line from phone going into splitter(LOCAL PHONE)
I have a line from ADSL Modem going into splitter(ADSL MODEM)
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Duke Williams said:
Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

:

I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head. I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


:

Gunna wrote:
:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation, click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?

A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case, the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.

Almost all internal fax modems that I am familiar with have two jacks.
They may be labeled in various ways: Telco and Phone; or Line and Phone;
or there may be pictographs. See
http://www.usr.com/images/products/product.asp?prod=5699b&image=front
In the picture at the link, the jack on the right connects to the wall
jack (analogous to "Telco" or "Line").

Disconnect the line from your phone to the splitter(Local Phone).
Connect it to the "Phone" jack on your modem (the one on the left in the
linked picture). Then connect a regular telephone cord between the
other jack on the modem ("Telco" or the one on the right) to the splitter.
 
D

Duke Williams

Hi Gunna,

Lem have already replied , but here is my idea to
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Sound that you must have NIC, i.e. network interface card in your PC
,hooked to ADSL modem which is the EXTERNAL device placed close
to ADSL splitter besides DATA/FAX modem if I am right.

And that you must have built in DATA/FAX modem your PC ?

As Lem said;
A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what
you may have inside your computer).
DATA/FAX modem is NOT the kind of the ADSL modem.

What you mentioned as "inbuilt Modem" should be DATA/FAX modem ?

Built-in DATA/FAX modem should have LINE IN jack and PHONE jack
in the rear of your PC.
To connect DATA/FAX modem to telephone line, you need one telephone
extension line with one end hooked to LINE IN jack in the rear of PC and
the other end to LOCAL PHONE jack of ADSL splitter or line divider
to divide the signal of LOCAL PHONE jack in ADSL splitter.

So my recommendation will be;


---------------------------------
| (ADSL |
WALL Jack -----(LINE IN) Splitter MODEM)----ADSL Modem
|
| |
| (LOCAL PHONE) |
|
---------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Network Card
line divider
in PC
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone LINE IN jack
of DATA/FAX modem
in PC

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

I know i will sound a bit slow but here it is.
I have a line from wall socket going into adsl splitter.(LINE)
I have a line from phone going into splitter(LOCAL PHONE)
I have a line from ADSL Modem going into splitter(ADSL MODEM)
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Duke Williams said:
Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem
in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone
line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another
thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one
end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to
disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

:

I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head.
I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and
receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone
line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug
allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


:

Gunna wrote:

:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove
Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option
setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and
select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING
and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation,
click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one
to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?


A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you
may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You
CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer
probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole
house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case,
the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL
and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax
modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other
jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
G

Guest

Thanks people,

i'll give it a go after some sleepand let you know how I went
Thanks

Duke Williams said:
Hi Gunna,

Lem have already replied , but here is my idea to
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Sound that you must have NIC, i.e. network interface card in your PC
,hooked to ADSL modem which is the EXTERNAL device placed close
to ADSL splitter besides DATA/FAX modem if I am right.

And that you must have built in DATA/FAX modem your PC ?

As Lem said;
A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what
you may have inside your computer).
DATA/FAX modem is NOT the kind of the ADSL modem.

What you mentioned as "inbuilt Modem" should be DATA/FAX modem ?

Built-in DATA/FAX modem should have LINE IN jack and PHONE jack
in the rear of your PC.
To connect DATA/FAX modem to telephone line, you need one telephone
extension line with one end hooked to LINE IN jack in the rear of PC and
the other end to LOCAL PHONE jack of ADSL splitter or line divider
to divide the signal of LOCAL PHONE jack in ADSL splitter.

So my recommendation will be;


---------------------------------
| (ADSL |
WALL Jack -----(LINE IN) Splitter MODEM)----ADSL Modem
|
| |
| (LOCAL PHONE) |
|
---------------------------------
|
|
|
|
Network Card
line divider
in PC
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone LINE IN jack
of DATA/FAX modem
in PC

Duke

Gunna said:
Hi Duke,

I know i will sound a bit slow but here it is.
I have a line from wall socket going into adsl splitter.(LINE)
I have a line from phone going into splitter(LOCAL PHONE)
I have a line from ADSL Modem going into splitter(ADSL MODEM)
How do I get a line into computer to activate inbuilt Modem???

Duke Williams said:
Hi Guna,

Sounds so far so good, you have set all FAX function of Windows XP.

---------------------------------
| ADSL
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
Telephone

If your setting is like above, you did good job.

As your question whether you must unplug your telephonhe when using
FAX form your PC is UP TO YOUR DATA/FAX MODEM even
you can hook a telephone line divider to PHONE socket of splitter.

---------------------------------
|
|
WALL Jack ------- (LINE IN) Splitter (ADSL)----ADSL Modem
|
| in PC
| (PHONE)
|
---------------------------------
|
|
line divider
| |
( filter) (filter)
| |
Phone DATA/FAX modem
in
PC

If your DATA/FAX modem can function through the divider even with
telephone connected to the other jack, you may be haapy.
If not, you have to insert two noise filters to both FAX and telephone
line
so that they will not interefere with each other.

Noise filter is sometimes called as "line separator" which is another
thing
from "ADSL splitter". Sorry for my wrong terminology in the first reply.

Duke

Hi Duke,

thankyou for your assistance so far.I have a splitter with line in one
end
and adsl modem and local phone the other.
I have line from wall socket going to line,telephone going into local
phone
socket on splitter and adsl connected to adsl modem socket on splitter.
What do I need to do to activate built in fax without having to
disconnect
local phone or adsl connection?

Regards

Ray

:

I am just getting in on this discussion which is largely over my head.
I
have cable internet, not phone and I have enabled both send and
receive
on
the fas console. I am able to send a fax but there is a recieve error
when I
try to receive either manually or auto. I am using the same phone
line
that
went into my fax machine and worked. Is it necessary to unplug
allother
phones on the fax line? I have tried this. Is there any other reason
why
the fax modem would fail given the above?
--
WW


:

Gunna wrote:

:

Hi;

You must go to CONTROL Panel-Add/Remove Program-Add/Remove
Windows
Componet to set FAX service cheking its box.

After you do it, go CONTROL PANEL-Telephone and Modem option
setting
your loaction. You must add your location with NEW button and
select
dialing
method Tone or Pulse.

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

Last you must do is Opening FAX console to configure it SENDING
and
Receivig
FAXs.

Duke
hooked



I have xp sp2 and I am on ADSL.I would like fax facilities but i
havent fax
set up in Communications eg: To open Fax after installation,
click
Start,
point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to
Communications, and
then click Fax Console.Any ideas freinds??

Regards

Thanks Duke.I have a internal Modem or should i get another one
to
send faxes or does adsl cut out internal modem?


A DSL modem is NOT the same as a data/fax modem (which is what you
may
have inside your computer). You CANNOT fax using a DSL modem. You
CAN
fax using a data/fax modem connected to an analog telephone line.

You missed the most important part of Duke's post:

Remember that DATA/FAX modem must be hooked to the PHONE jack
of the line separator for ADSL.

If you have one and only one telephone line coming into your house,
that
line carries both DSL signals and telephone signals. Each telephone
jack in your house may be used for DSL, telephone, or both, BUT
each telephone device in the house MUST have a DSL filter connected
between the device and the phone line (your ISP or installer
probably
gave you DSL filters).

[There is always an exception. If you had DSL professionally
installed,
particularly if you have a home alarm system that calls a central
station, the professional installer may have installed a "whole
house
filter" where the telephone line enters the house. In this case,
the
installer would have identified certain wall jacks as being for DSL
and
others as being for telephone. In this scenario, your data/fax
modem
must be connected to a telephone-designated jack.]

If you want to use a single line for both DSL and phone, you need a
splitter (or what Duke called a line separator, which sounds like a
combination splitter/filter). The connection to your DSL modem goes
into one jack of the splitter, and a DSL filter goes in the other
jack.
The other end of the DSL filter connects to your internal modem.
 
G

Guest

You need to install the fax facility either from the Windows master disk or
from the Add/Delete programmes and select add windows extras. You will also
need a dial up modem capable of taking faxes. Also I found that if you have
Norton Internet Security 2007 installed, then it must be at version 10.2 or
higher for the fax to work - there was a conflict between early versions of
the Fax facility and Norton. Reply and I'll tell you were to get the Norton
update FOC.
 
G

Guest

I found Duke's response helpful in a different situation. Suddenly, the Fax
icon disappeared from Printers and Faxes, and I couldn't fax anything. I
looked in the Fax service in the Windows Components Wizard, and its check box
was indeed selected. So I cleared it. Then I went back and selected it. My
fax service is now back to normal. Thanks.

Rojo
 

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